Poppy to become more inclusive

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 3:45pm

Aegir wrote: »

Why so few? Heads should roll for that!

tayto lover · 17-10-2019 3:50pm

When will we see the Green Poppy?

partyguinness · 17-10-2019 4:22pm

Aegir wrote: »

I guess the Brits will shut up about it, about 500 years after the irish stfu about Cromwell

Obviously because Cromwell fought against an evenly matched opposition armed to the hilt and a few thousand pesky civilians got on the way.

partyguinness · 17-10-2019 4:23pm

Aegir wrote: »

ooh, we've got a tough guy here.

This ones a proper badass, not like any of you keyboard warriors out there

This is a forum board. What do you expect?

Treppen · 17-10-2019 5:05pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

I'd say it'll be about that long before the Brits stop crying about the PIRA giving them a taste of their own medicine.

Ya I suppose the PIRA killed their fair share of British children too.

Very tough men indeed, plant a timed bomb and run away so it can kill any civilian in the vicinity. I wonder does John Delaney have a rebel song for that?

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2019 5:10pm

Treppen wrote: »

Ya I suppose the PIRA killed their fair share of British children too.

Very tough men indeed, plant a timed bomb and run away so it can kill any civilian in the vicinity. I wonder does John Delaney have a rebel song for that?

Looking down the site of an SA80 shooting a child in the back was more manly I suppose?

FrancieBrady · 17-10-2019 5:16pm

Treppen wrote: »

Ya I suppose the PIRA killed their fair share of British children too.

Very tough men indeed, plant a timed bomb and run away so it can kill any civilian in the vicinity. I wonder does John Delaney have a rebel song for that?

Yeh maybe they should have used a Cruise missile or dropped their bombs from 10,000 feet?

Bit of cop on, on the old hypocrisy front there Treppen. :rolleyes:

17-10-2019 5:35pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Obviously because Cromwell fought against an evenly matched opposition armed to the hilt and a few thousand pesky civilians got on the way.

He did though. He fought against a fairly ruthless and just as quick to kill civilians coalition of Irish Confederates and English Royalist forces.

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 5:53pm

Treppen wrote: »

Ya I suppose the PIRA killed their fair share of British children too.

Very tough men indeed, plant a timed bomb and run away so it can kill any civilian in the vicinity. I wonder does John Delaney have a rebel song for that?

The PIRA took the war to Britain and the Brits didn't like it one bit. Watching their forces shoot innocents and children dead on our streets, bomb our towns and cities, beat and intimidate nationalist communities etc etc was all fine but when they got some damage back, they started crying like little bitches.

end of the road · 17-10-2019 6:04pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

The PIRA took the war to Britain and the Brits didn't like it one bit. Watching their forces shoot innocents and children dead on our streets, bomb our towns and cities, beat and intimidate nationalist communities etc etc was all fine but when they got some damage back, they started crying like little bitches.

exactly.
they are able to give out but unable to take it back.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 7:14pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

The PIRA took the war to Britain and the Brits didn't like it one bit. Watching their forces shoot innocents and children dead on our streets, bomb our towns and cities, beat and intimidate nationalist communities etc etc was all fine but when they got some damage back, they started crying like little bitches.

Don't be giving out about the Brits. Didnt they supplement the income of 200 gallant Volunteers by payment for information received. Even the highest echelons of Sinn Fein were on the Brits payroll

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 7:32pm

Edgware wrote: »

Don't be giving out about the Brits. Didnt they supplement the income of 200 gallant Volunteers by payment for information received. Even the highest echelons of Sinn Fein were on the Brits payroll

So what? Why do you support the British armed forces murdering innocent Irish people?

Edgware · 17-10-2019 8:13pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

So what? Why do you support the British armed forces murdering innocent Irish people?

Where did I say that? But you readily dismiss I.R.A. topping up their incomes by selling out their comrades

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 8:19pm

Edgware wrote: »

Where did I say that? But you readily dismiss I.R.A. topping up their incomes by selling out their comrades

Buy a poppy and you support the murderers of innocent Irish people, that's before the mass murders committed across the globe. The PIRA were heroes, they slaughtered over 1,000 members of the British terrorist forces.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 8:41pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

Buy a poppy and you support the murderers of innocent Irish people, that's before the mass murders committed across the globe. The PIRA were heroes, they slaughtered over 1,000 members of the British terrorist forces.

And slaughtered another 1000 innocent civilians before they copped on that they were never going to win.

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 8:46pm

Edgware wrote: »

And slaughtered another 1000 innocent civilians before they copped on that they were never going to win.

Wrong! It was the British side who murdered over 1,000 innocent civilians before they realised they weren't going to win. The British side were a murderous cocktail of the ruc, uvf, british army and so on. They mostly targetted their victims because they were Catholics. The PIRA wasn't even in existence when the ruc were shooting dead innocents including children.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 8:49pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

Wrong! It was the British side who murdered over 1,000 innocent civilians before they realised they weren't going to win. The British side were a murderous cocktail of the ruc, uvf, british army and so on. They mostly targetted their victims because they were Catholics. The PIRA wasn't even in existence when the ruc were shooting dead innocents including children.

You really need to read more than old copies of An Phoblacht.
You know the one that said onward to the Socialist Republic, 32 county united Ireland and abolition of Stormont

FrancieBrady · 17-10-2019 8:54pm

Edgware wrote: »

You really need to read more than old copies of An Phoblacht.
You know the one that said onward to the Socialist Republic, 32 county united Ireland and abolition of Stormont

What about the manifesto of the Conservative and 'Unionist' Party tonight, for some light comedic reading tonight?

Edgware · 17-10-2019 8:55pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What about the manifesto of the Conservative and 'Unionist' Party tonight, for some light comedic reading tonight?

Whatabout whatabout

The Rape of Lucretia · 17-10-2019 8:56pm

Wearing a poppy and supporting the RBL is a fine tradition and one that certainly should not be diluted and widened out to inclusivity. It just debases it raison d'etre - the support of families of the British forces and commemoration of those fallen in its dute - particularly in the two world wars. Exclusivity is essential to its meaning. Beyond that, it it just become meaningless fashion. The pressure on those in the public eye to wear one is a shame, as is the wearing it for weeks. Remembrance Sunday, yes. That weekend, possibly. If going to a particular service during those couple of weeks, yes also, but only for the duration, not for the day. I fear it is loosing its point and just becoming a political football and forced conformism. Wear it for that weekend. Its a good thing to do. But leave it at that.

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 9:01pm

Edgware wrote: »

You really need to read more than old copies of An Phoblacht.
You know the one that said onward to the Socialist Republic, 32 county united Ireland and abolition of Stormont

You have been brainwashed. The British side murdered over 1,000 innocents, this is fact. The ruc were shooting innocents including children before the PIRA ever came into existence. This is fact. Read some books or look up the CAIN website, the truth is all there for you to see.

FrancieBrady · 17-10-2019 9:04pm

Edgware wrote: »

Whatabout whatabout

And blathering some bitter bile about the 'RA is relevant?

Those most steadfast in dying for the 'Union' and in the wearing of the poppy have just been thrown under a bus by the party leader who, a wet week ago, was pledging to support them. Entirely relevant to a 'poppy' thread.

Let me introduce you to - perfidious Albion.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 9:09pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

You have been brainwashed. The British side murdered over 1,000 innocents, this is fact. The ruc were shooting innocents including children before the PIRA ever came into existence. This is fact. Read some books or look up the CAIN website, the truth is all there for you to see.

I take it you have read Lost Lives which will show the numbers killed by each of the participants. Thats assuming that you can read

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 9:15pm

Edgware wrote: »

I take it you have read Lost Lives which will show the numbers killed by each of the participants. Thats assuming that you can read

I can read alright, it's obvious that you can't add though! The PIRA killed over 1,000 members of the british armed forces. Fact. The british armed forces murdered over 1,000 innocents. Fact.

end of the road · 17-10-2019 9:24pm

Edgware wrote: »

And slaughtered another 1000 innocent civilians before they copped on that they were never going to win.

oh but they did win.
they forced the british to the table.
they forced britain to allow the people of northern ireland to decide their future rather then britain deciding it for them.
they put down the racist, sectarian, apartheid northern ireland statelet government.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 9:29pm

end of the road wrote: »

oh but they did win.
they forced the british to the table.
they forced britain to allow the people of northern ireland to decide their future rather then britain deciding it for them.
they put down the racist, sectarian, apartheid northern ireland statelet government.

Useful idiots comes to mind when I read the above

Edgware · 17-10-2019 9:35pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

I can read alright, it's obvious that you can't add though! The PIRA killed over 1,000 members of the british armed forces. Fact. The british armed forces murdered over 1,000 innocents. Fact.

Shouldnt it be , Fact, pal or bud

EmmetSpiceland · 17-10-2019 9:41pm

Edgware wrote: »

Shouldnt it be , Fact, pal or bud

Annasopra · 17-10-2019 9:45pm

Just buy a white poppy

https://www.ppu.org.uk/remembrance-white-poppies

zig · 17-10-2019 9:46pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the annual poppy threads start earlier and earlier every year.

Its like Christmas

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 9:49pm

Edgware wrote: »

Shouldnt it be , Fact, pal or bud

Have a look yourself. Stop depending on the independent for your research. Learn some history for yourself. I've put a space between the h and t. Are you able to figure it out?

h ttps://cain.ulster.ac.uk/cgi-bin/tab2.pl

Edgware · 17-10-2019 9:57pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

Have a look yourself. Stop depending on the independent for your research. Learn some history for yourself. I've put a space between the h and t. Are you able to figure it out?

h ttps://cain.ulster.ac.uk/cgi-bin/tab2.pl

The three years you spent in sixth class were wasted obviously

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 10:26pm

Edgware wrote: »

The three years you spent in sixth class were wasted obviously

Oh poor diddums. I burst some of your core beliefs. At least now you know the truth. The PIRA killed over 1,000 members of the british security forces while the british side killed over 1,000 innocents.

Edgware · 17-10-2019 10:51pm

Danthemanhere wrote: »

Oh poor diddums. I burst some of your core beliefs. At least now you know the truth. The PIRA killed over 1,000 members of the british security forces while the british side killed over 1,000 innocents.

You wouldnt burst a baloon without ruining your trousers

Danthemanhere · 17-10-2019 11:03pm

Edgware wrote: »

You wouldnt burst a baloon without ruining your trousers

I'd slap you, but that would be animal abuse.

Treppen · 18-10-2019 8:02am

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Looking down the site of an SA80 shooting a child in the back was more manly I suppose?

Ah no.

Poppy to become more inclusive

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