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Being lazy with letter addresses.

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  • 24-07-2019 4:17pm
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    paleoperson
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    Is it really necessary to write all the lines of an address on an envelope? Have you ever thought about getting lazy when addressing envelopes? For example I'm pretty sure most people know where the GPO in Dublin is.

    I'm writing a letter going to the motor tax office in cork. So I have to go to the computer, look it up, write down all the lines of the address, etc. Could I not just put down "Motor Tax" and would it get there? How could a postman in cork not know where it was? Come to think of it I'd also have to write Cork County Council as opposed to Cork City Council.


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    #2
    theteal
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    First line and postcode will do the job.


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    Force Carrier
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    There is a G.P.O in Dublin and Cork. At least, possibly more.

    With the addressee as simply 'Pat the bollix' once got a letter successfully to Pat Spillane at his home in Kerry.


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    scamalert
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    buy a label printer if its such a hard issue, ffs :cool:


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    #5
    kneemos
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    Automatic reading machines. Just means someone will have to pull it out of the reject bin and put the correct address on it.


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    the beer revolu
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    Friend of mine once got a letter addressed "Fergal, near the airport, Cork"
    He lived 1.5 miles from the airport.


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    Franz Von Peppercorn II
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    The eircode alone would work.


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    cylor
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    Just the Eircode itself won't necessarily work apparently...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/an-post-confirms-staff-do-not-use-eircode-system-for-local-deliveries-1.3104577


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    Ubbquittious
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    Perhaps someone should try writing a letter to "paleoperson from boards.ie" and OP can let us know if it arrives


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    Roger Hassenforder
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    If you put down Cork City Council motor tax office or Cork County Council motor tax office they'd get it.

    The sorters do be fierce clever.


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    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    cylor wrote: »
    Just the Eircode itself won't necessarily work apparently...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/an-post-confirms-staff-do-not-use-eircode-system-for-local-deliveries-1.3104577

    That’s two years old though.


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    paleoperson
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    cylor wrote: »
    Just the Eircode itself won't necessarily work apparently...

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/an-post-confirms-staff-do-not-use-eircode-system-for-local-deliveries-1.3104577

    That's actually hilarious.

    "Only in Ireland..." :rolleyes:


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    Darc19
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    paleoperson wrote: »
    That's actually hilarious.

    "Only in Ireland..." :rolleyes:

    It's an eircode. It was never designed as a postcode.

    I can assure you that if you ever require an emergency ambulance urgently you will be extremely glad to have an eircode that will bring medical assistance to your door without delay no matter where you live.
    For that fact alone, eircode is worthy.


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    kneemos
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    paleoperson wrote: »
    That's actually hilarious.

    "Only in Ireland..." :rolleyes:


    An Post never had any trouble delivering. The eircode was always for emergency services, couriers and service personnel.


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    Ubbquittious
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    It's an eircode. It was never designed as a postcode.

    I can assure you that if you ever require an emergency ambulance urgently you will be extremely glad to have an eircode that will bring medical assistance to your door without delay no matter where you live.
    For that fact alone, eircode is worthy.

    Eircodes are great for when you're chatting to a girl you just met and you're too shy to ask them for their phone number


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    Ubbquittious wrote: »
    Eircodes are great for when you're chatting to a girl you just met and you're too shy to ask them for their phone number

    D04 KPMG


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    The J Stands for Jay
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    D04 KPMG

    Thatll just get your letter sent to worldstarhiphop


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    whisky_galore
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    It's an eircode. It was never designed as a postcode.

    I can assure you that if you ever require an emergency ambulance urgently you will be extremely glad to have an eircode that will bring medical assistance to your door without delay no matter where you live.
    For that fact alone, eircode is worthy.

    Not always. Tried to find a friend's place recently. He lives close to a motorway. The eircode got me to a point on the motorway, then I was expected to stop my car and walk over the motorway embankment to get the rest of the way.


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    the beer revolu
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Not always. Tried to find a friend's place recently. He lives close to a motorway. The eircode got me to a point on the motorway, then I was expected to stop my car and walk over the motorway embankment to get the rest of the way.

    Your navigation system took you there.
    Perhaps it wasn't the fault of the aircode?


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    whisky_galore
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Your navigation system took you there.
    Perhaps it wasn't the fault of the aircode?

    Well I don't know, software design isn't my thing.
    Maybe it's yours, but I couldnt care less.


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    Ger Roe
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    It's an eircode. It was never designed as a postcode.

    I can assure you that if you ever require an emergency ambulance urgently you will be extremely glad to have an eircode that will bring medical assistance to your door without delay no matter where you live.
    For that fact alone, eircode is worthy.

    That's putting far too much power on the eircode system. Unfortunately the ability to get an ambulance straight to your door without delay, no matter where you live, relies on a lot more than an eircode.... if only it were so simple.

    I actually resented hearing the eircode promo radio advert that peddled the same idea, as if it was a magic solution to ambluance service response issues. I'm sure it might be a help, but the advert was a cynical ploy to promote the eircode service, ahead of a commissioned survey to gauge the level of public awareness, and then to pay out performance bonuses. They shouldn't have used an element of fear to promote a service that was set up for commercial gain.

    The advert was flagged as 'a public service announcement' - who was making this' public service announcement', and what was it's objective? The advert didn't actually say.


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    Darc19
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    That's putting far too much power on the eircode system. Unfortunately the ability to get an ambulance straight to your door without delay, no matter where you live, relies on a lot more than an eircode.... if only it were so simple.

    I actually resented hearing the eircode promo radio advert that peddled the same idea, as if it was a magic solution to ambluance service response issues. I'm sure it might be a help, but the advert was a cynical ploy to promote the eircode service, ahead of a commissioned survey to gauge the level of public awareness, and then to pay out performance bonuses. They shouldn't have used an element of fear to promote a service that was set up for commercial gain.

    The advert was flagged as 'a public service announcement' - who was making this' public service announcement', and what was it's objective? The advert didn't actually say.

    Last Sunday week I had to call an ambulance. I'm in a very rural area on Kildare / Dublin border.

    I just had to give the eircode. The dispatch person then read out my address and I confirmed it.

    Rather than having to direct a driver whilst also dealing with a medical issue, the driver had whatever contraption he needed to get to my door.

    And if you live in a rural community, you'll hear many many first hand experiences just like mine.

    And it's also why you'll find that the majority of rural dwellers will know their eircode without needing to check it.

    Maybe one day you will find that you will need it.


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    Corruptedmorals
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    We have just bought a house. Everything that has to be done before closing has required the eircode to pinpoint it. It's BRILLIANT. Especially when the original address on the ad is different to the actual address but even the actual address leaves it on the edge of two other townlands...blah blah. The eircode cuts out any possible confusion and will presumably help a lot with the legal side also.


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    Ger Roe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Last Sunday week I had to call an ambulance. I'm in a very rural area on Kildare / Dublin border.

    I just had to give the eircode. The dispatch person then read out my address and I confirmed it.

    Rather than having to direct a driver whilst also dealing with a medical issue, the driver had whatever contraption he needed to get to my door.

    And if you live in a rural community, you'll hear many many first hand experiences just like mine.

    And it's also why you'll find that the majority of rural dwellers will know their eircode without needing to check it.

    Maybe one day you will find that you will need it.

    My point is how it was promoted.... using the fear factor to increase awareness of a system that was struggling to achieve the required level of public recall, in order to pay performance bonus payments to the people paid to promote it. My question still stands - Who paid for the 'public service announcement' and for what specific aim?

    I am glad it is now useful to the ambulance service because it wasn't when first designed and launched, yet that aspect was the sole focus of a 'public service announcement' advert campaign, rolled out just before a performance bonus survey was undertaken.

    Call me an old cynic, but I think that approach was very cynical. Why was a fear focused 'public service announcement' used as a tactic for commercial gain?


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    Utter Consternation
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    Force Carrier wrote: »
    There is a G.P.O in Dublin and Cork. At least, possibly more.

    With the addressee as simply 'Pat the bollix' once got a letter successfully to Pat Spillane at his home in Kerry.

    Strange that, there's plenty of bollixi in Kerry.


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    paleoperson
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    Ger Roe wrote: »
    My point is how it was promoted.... using the fear factor to increase awareness of a system that was struggling to achieve the required level of public recall, in order to pay performance bonus payments to the people paid to promote it. My question still stands - Who paid for the 'public service announcement' and for what specific aim?

    I am glad it is now useful to the ambulance service because it wasn't when first designed and launched, yet that aspect was the sole focus of a 'public service announcement' advert campaign, rolled out just before a performance bonus survey was undertaken.

    Call me an old cynic, but I think that approach was very cynical. Why was a fear focused 'public service announcement' used as a tactic for commercial gain?

    Rubbish. They let you know of the value of the eircode in case of emergency. The only ads I saw were that you should know your eircode, because it might come in handy in case of emergency. The only "fear" there if you could call it that is your own pressure on yourself to learn it because it could be a useful idea.

    My only remark would be that maybe they should have encouraged people to learn their GPS coordinates instead of paying so much for eircodes. I think you might have to learn four decimal places (at least three) - hardly too much of an imposition for a healthy adult - and people who couldn't learn them probably wouldn't know their eircodes either. Eircode cost a large amount of money and will continue to cost money as more addresses are being constructed/demolished while GPS would be permanent.


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    Ger Roe
    Registered Users Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Rubbish. They let you know of the value of the eircode in case of emergency. The only ads I saw were that you should know your eircode, because it might come in handy in case of emergency. The only "fear" there if you could call it that is your own pressure on yourself to learn it because it could be a useful idea.

    I have made no mention of any advert that anyone may have seen (press or TV)
    The advert I was specifically referring to was a radio advert, promoted as 'a public service announcement' and I questioned the use of the term and the objective of the campaign, particularly when it was aired in advance of a level of awareness survey being undertaken to justify paying performance bonuses.

    Your comment aimed at me personally is unnecessary and irrelevant.

    Actually, I have now found out that the advert was in fact found to be misleading and in breech of four advertising standards codes. The ASAI ruled that the add should no longer be broadcast, but it could not be banned because of the 'public service' status attributed to it by ministerial order.

    Details here : https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/watchdog-finds-it-cant-ban-misleading-eircode-adverts-435821.html


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    s7ryf3925pivug
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    I was told next time I needed an ambulance [for a family member] to get in the car and start driving, then call the ambulance to meet at shopping centre halfway there. Makes sense if you’re in a rural area.


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