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Buncrana pier victims family being sued

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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Will it not be through insurance or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Laneyh


    Jesus, if that report is accurate she is the lowest of the low


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    And if it's true, Davitt is well rid. What an awful thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,454 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    How did she have loss of earnings?
    All she did is hold the baby while the Ambulance arrived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    What solicitor would do this? What a terrible thing this is .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    How low can you go? I think we have a winner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Jesus Christ, one would have thought that poor family have been through enough already.

    I hope she gets the square root of fcuk all from them.

    That's some low life scumbavggery if its true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    How on earth could she have loss of earnings? And what makes her think the family have money to spare??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I hope she gets bad diarrhea on a packed rush hour bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Will it not be through insurance or something?

    What insurance specifically?


    ..............................


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I'm struggling to see the cause of action here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I am shocked to the core by this story . Words fail me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    http://www.donegaldaily.com/2018/03/26/woman-who-helped-save-baby-in-buncrana-drowning-tragedy-sues-victims-family/
    I take what Donegal Daily says with a pinch of salt but then again, nothing surprises me anymore...


    See the comments beneath the story for reaction ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I hope there is an aspect of the story that isn't being made available to us that could somehow clear this up. Because it seems verging on sadistic as it is

    Is that the wan who's suing them? The girl with blonde hair at the top of the article?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    listermint wrote: »
    What insurance specifically?


    ..............................

    Car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    The entire episode was an appalling tragedy.

    A guy 3x times the drink driving limit drives his Audi 4x4 down onto a slipway.
    In my opinion, probably showing off what "Vorsprung durch Technik" can do.
    Due to algae etc, car can't reverse back up, and slides into the sea.

    After the funerals etc, the widow announces she is going to sue Donegal Co. Council for not having barriers at the top of the slipway.

    Now a bystander who witnessed the event is trying to sue the estate, probably on grounds of PTSD of some type.

    Charmers, one and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    there nust be more to it than whats reported. nobody would sue because they lost a few minutes saving a babies life.
    she must have been out of work from the shock or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I hope she gets bad diarrhea on a packed rush hour bus.

    What did the poor passengers do to deserve this...:rolleyes::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Someone has been very badly advised by an ambulance chaser and will regret this.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/were-still-having-nightmares-buncrana-tragedy-hero-who-saved-baby-praised-at-water-safety-awards-35198842.html
    Speaking to Independent.ie last night, Ms Knox, who had the presence of mind to take off the baby's wet clothes and wrap her in her coat to prevent her from dying from hypothermia, said she is still having nightmares over the tragedy.

    But she said the trauma counselling that both she and Davitt have undergone to cope with the horror has helped.
    They couple are also still in contact with Louise McGrotty, the baby's mother, when the unspeakable horror of losing her family unfolded as she returned from a trip to the UK.


    However, Stephanie said they are giving her some space to come to terms with the tragedy, although they are in touch with the family and delighted to see Riognach Anne's progress as she nears her first birthday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Defunkd


    Link doesn't give enough detail. Am a bit suspicious about this tbh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    I hope she gets the square root of fcuk all from them.

    I would not be surprised if Ms.Knox gets something when Irish Judges award obscene amounts of money to people for stepping on a chip or not punishing those who blatantly abuse the dole system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Someone has been very badly advised by an ambulance chaser and will regret this.
    Her reputation will be destroyed; never mind loss of earnings, who on earth would hire her after this? and said ambulance chaser will probably be quids in and come out of it squeaky clean.
    I hate to see this parasitic litigation coming over from america.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,067 ✭✭✭✭neris


    she wont be showing her face around donegal for a long time, what <snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Her reputation will be destroyed; never mind loss of earnings, who on earth would hire her after this? and said ambulance chaser will probably be quids in and come out of it squeaky clean.
    I hate to see this parasitic litigation coming over from america.

    She is a NURSE. Surely able to cope?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭maxsmum




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    What insurance exactly would cover this ? Car insurance or what ?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Wow I thought your Wan on Room To Improve was one of the worst women I have come across but if true we have a new winner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Graces7 wrote: »
    She is a NURSE. Surely able to cope?

    You would think anyone would be so very proud to be able to help and their pride and a babys life would be all that mattered to them . I am shocked at this story to be honest .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Wow I thought your Wan on Room To Improve was one of the worst women I have come across but if true we have a new winner

    never underestemate how bad or stupid someone can be


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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What insurance exactly would cover this ? Car insurance or what ?

    it was essentially the result of a car accident, so the car insurance would be the ones getting sued, not the actual family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    never underestemate how stupid someone can be

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Aegir wrote: »
    it was essentially the result of a car accident, so the car insurance would be the ones getting sued, not the actual family.

    Wow . I didn't know a bystander could sue for being upset after a crash.
    My first thought would be that I was very lucky to be able to help .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    Gut wrenching read. I don't know what to think.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,424 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    ...and this **** is a nurse?

    I didn’t see anywhere in the article that says she is a nurse. She’s described as a cardiac physiologist (whatever the fook that is) No record of a Stephanie Knox registered with the UK NMC or the NMBI.
    Graces7 wrote: »
    She is a NURSE. Surely able to cope?

    Not condoning her actions for one moment, but nurses are human too, the trauma she and Davitt Walsh witnessed was horrific, anyone would struggle and I am sure all of the EMS involved were offered support/debriefing in the aftermath. Regardless of her profession however, the decision to sue the family is disgraceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    What an odd thing to do. What loss of earnings?
    I feel there is more to this than meets the eye.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Someone has been very badly advised by an ambulance chaser and will regret this.

    Why? I'm sure the woman who got €20,000 when she hit her knee sitting down at a table restaurant doesn't. Not the one who got €40,000 for slipping on a chip in a food court. Very few people regret visiting the four goldmines these days. Our judiciary are out of control, so you may as well roll the dice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    maxsmum wrote: »

    I don't know for sure if it is or isn't but I'm sure anyone who feels like creating a blog to document their brave journey through.... scoliosis.... and expects other people to read is definitely NOT a complete narcissist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I didn’t see anywhere in the article that says she is a nurse. She’s described as a cardiac physiologist (whatever the fook that is) No record of a Stephanie Knox registered with the UK NMC or the NMBI.



    Not condoning her actions for one moment, but nurses are human too, the trauma she and Davitt Walsh witnessed was horrific, anyone would struggle and I am sure all of the EMS involved were offered support/debriefing in the aftermath. Regardless of her profession however, the decision to sue the family is disgraceful.

    Nurses and medics and ambulance people are human of course . But they are better able to cope because of their profession . I once came across a horrible accident and till this day am so proud I could help . I came home and cried and shook and was terribly upset . At no stage would it enter my head to make it about me or burden a family even more
    My god I am stunned that anyone would do that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    I once saw someone get run over by oil tanker when I was a kid.

    Can I now sue the the driver?

    What a <snip>


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    I once saw someone get run over by oil tanker when I was a kid.

    Can I now sue the the driver?

    What <snip>.
    You suing the victims next of kin would be a more accurate comparison.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Personally I think there is a rush to judgment here on the thread. We have little information as to the woman's reasons for taking action.

    Anyway it is NOT against the family at all, it is against the car insurer. The family does not need to be involved in any way. This action will probably be the first of many in this case. Who knows?

    It also reminds me of the case of Mark Pollock. He sued his very best friends for a fall out of their window. Well he sued their public liability insurers. Some thought it was quite cruel of him to sue his best friends like that. But it was their insurers, not them personally. He suffered devastating injuries but made sure that the payout was at the cap of his friends liability under the insurance policy and they had no legal costs to pay either.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0730/718165-mark-pollock-case/


    That is what insurance is for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    I once saw someone get run over by oil tanker when I was a kid.

    Can I now sue the the driver?

    What <snip>

    Don't be daft. Sue the family of the victim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Personally I think there is a rush to judgment here on the thread. We have little information as to the woman's reasons for taking action.

    Anyway it is NOT against the family at all, it is against the car insurer. The family does not need to be involved in any way. This action will probably be the first of many in this case. Who knows?

    It also reminds me of the case of Mark Pollock. He sued his very best friends for a fall out of their window. Well he sued their public liability insurers. Some thought it was quite cruel of him to sue his best friends like that. But it was their insurers, not them personally. He suffered devastating injuries but made sure that the payout was at the cap of his friends liability under the insurance policy and they had no legal costs to pay either.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0730/718165-mark-pollock-case/


    That is what insurance is for.

    Bit of a difference with having catastrophic injuries and being upset or traumatised in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    The tort of outrage?

    Is that what she is at?

    This is sabre rattling at its worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,556 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Personally I think there is a rush to judgment here on the thread. We have little information as to the woman's reasons for taking action.

    Anyway it is NOT against the family at all, it is against the car insurer. The family does not need to be involved in any way. This action will probably be the first of many in this case. Who knows?

    It also reminds me of the case of Mark Pollock. He sued his very best friends for a fall out of their window. Well he sued their public liability insurers. Some thought it was quite cruel of him to sue his best friends like that. But it was their insurers, not them personally. He suffered devastating injuries but made sure that the payout was at the cap of his friends liability under the insurance policy and they had no legal costs to pay either.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0730/718165-mark-pollock-case/


    That is what insurance is for.

    A huge difference between the two cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Bit of a difference with having catastrophic injuries and being upset or traumatised in my opinion

    No, we do not know what trauma the person suffered AT ALL. Although I take your point that Mark Pollocks injuries were visible and life limiting.

    Anyone can sue anyone. We have all seen some fairly trivial shyte cases that are awarded thousands, happens every day. It is up to the insurers to fight the cases that they deem to be ridiculous or fraudulent. But most settle on the steps and on it goes.

    The woman in question is suing the insurers not the family. Whether she succeeds or not is another matter.

    I suspect there will be many more claims associated with this case, in time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Even if she backs out of sueing the damage is done to even think of it. The money grabbing mare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I ended up in counselling for a while after arriving at the scene of a car crash. The victim was quite young and it was a very graphic scene and really horrible. It would never enter my head to sue anyone, it was an accident and all involved have suffered enough. I can't believe anyone would even consider this let alone actually do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Personally I think there is a rush to judgment here on the thread. We have little information as to the woman's reasons for taking action.

    Anyway it is NOT against the family at all, it is against the car insurer. The family does not need to be involved in any way. This action will probably be the first of many in this case. Who knows?

    It also reminds me of the case of Mark Pollock. He sued his very best friends for a fall out of their window. Well he sued their public liability insurers. Some thought it was quite cruel of him to sue his best friends like that. But it was their insurers, not them personally. He suffered devastating injuries but made sure that the payout was at the cap of his friends liability under the insurance policy and they had no legal costs to pay either.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0730/718165-mark-pollock-case/


    That is what insurance is for.

    That's not what insurance is for. It's just become what it's become with our out of touch judiciary.

    And worse it's anyone who pays insurance who is going to pay for yet another BS claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Del2005 wrote: »
    That's not what insurance is for. It's just become what it's become with our out of touch judiciary.

    And worse it's anyone who pays insurance who is going to pay for yet another BS claim.

    Well what is insurance for then?


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