we've gone full Inception now, RE: rape

16-06-2017 2:36am #1

I know that it is happening that women are falsely accusing men of rape. This is abhorrent and needs dealing with by the law.

Now I know someone who had completely consensual sex with a man, and this man's brother said "she said it was rape". I know for a fact she did not. Nor did the man in question. But the brother has decided to spread this all over social media, "Mary says John raped her!"

Mary is getting so many sympathetic messages saying "You were raped!" and John is getting so many messages saying "You didn't rape her, don't allow her to say so"'. They are both confused because they had consensual sex once and that was that.

Mary and John are very confused. Mary is now being accused of making up rape allegations against John. She never said anything of the sort. Her and John are still friends. But the allegations stick to both John and Mary.

I wish this was a hypothetical scenario but it isn't. This girl is being accused of making a false rape charge; and because rape has been mentioned, a label sticks to John.

Are Am Eye · 16-06-2017 2:43am

Shes already been through so much with Frank.

Outlaw Pete · 16-06-2017 2:49am

What's the question caller?

myshirt · 16-06-2017 2:52am

I'll stick this poker up your arse!

Stop yer moaning and get them feckin' crunchies out of the car.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 16-06-2017 2:53am

Funny you make this thread just now, I came across this story yesterday

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601950/Woman-rape-sex-assault-claims-against-15-men.html

Basically she made false claims against 15 men and one of them ended up serving seven years in prison :eek:

Just looking at her I don't think even Larry Murphy would go near her.

wonderfullife · 16-06-2017 3:01am

It sounds to me like you have a bunch of attention seeking friends?

Easy solution to this - delete facebook. No friends = no drama. Works for me.

I don't really get the point of your post, to be fair. 2 people shag consensually, both agree it was consensual..... surely all "Mary" has to tweet or post is "Umm, nobody raped me you bunch of gossiping weirdos".

Arghus · 16-06-2017 3:18am

So, in this case, the woman didn't make the accusation?

Her brother did? His brother did? Are they all related? Maybe they should be more worried about that...

What's your point exactly caller?

Canis Lupus · 16-06-2017 3:19am

Deleted User wrote: »

I know that it is happening that women are falsely accusing men of rape. This is abhorrent and needs dealing with by the law.

Now I know someone who had completely consensual sex with a man, and this man's brother said "she said it was rape". I know for a fact she did not. Nor did the man in question. But the brother has decided to spread this all over social media, "Mary says John raped her!"

Mary is getting so many sympathetic messages saying "You were raped!" and John is getting so many messages saying "You didn't rape her, don't allow her to say so"'. They are both confused because they had consensual sex once and that was that.

Mary and John are very confused. Mary is now being accused of making up rape allegations against John. She never said anything of the sort. Her and John are still friends. But the allegations stick to both John and Mary.

I wish this was a hypothetical scenario but it isn't. This girl is being accused of making a false rape charge; and because rape has been mentioned, a label sticks to John.

You go to a solicitor and do them for slander and in the process teach the moron that posting crap online can get you in trouble.

greencap · 16-06-2017 3:41am

Maybe our collective responsibility is to encourage the growth of a culture which tells online gossips and speculators from either camp to stfu until the courts return a verdict.

'Proof or gtfo' should be the house special.

Yourself isit · 16-06-2017 3:59am

Canis Lupus wrote: »

You go to a solicitor and do them for slander and in the process teach the moron that posting crap online can get you in trouble.

The brother of the guy involved isn't saying Mary is raped but that Mary claims she was raped. (I suppose offline). Certainly something should done there.

FB is a curse.

tomwaterford · 16-06-2017 7:10am

Yourself isit wrote: »

The brother of the guy involved isn't saying Mary is raped but that Mary claims she was raped. (I suppose offline). Certainly something should done there.

FB is a curse.

Why deosnt she come out and say she never claimed that?

This guy sounds like an idiot

9or10 · 16-06-2017 7:17am

myshirt wrote: »

I'll stick this poker up your arse!

Stop yer moaning and get them feckin' crunchies out of the car.

You mean the Feedback approach

archer22 · 16-06-2017 7:36am

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Funny you make this thread just now, I came across this story yesterday

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601950/Woman-rape-sex-assault-claims-against-15-men.html

Basically she made false claims against 15 men and one of them ended up serving seven years in prison :eek:

Just looking at her I don't think even Larry Murphy would go near her.

Bad enough being falsely accused of sexual molestation...but to be accused of molesting that :eek:

koumi · 16-06-2017 7:38am

Yourself isit wrote: »

FB is a curse.

I imagine in a couple of generations anthropologists and sociologists will be studying the fb era as the beginning of the end of civilization.

silverharp · 16-06-2017 8:27am

john needs to create a distraction and get a rumor out that this brother is a pedo, reap the whirlwind and all that

The_Valeyard · 16-06-2017 8:41am

silverharp wrote: »

john needs to create a distraction and get a rumor out that this brother is a pedo, reap the whirlwind and all that

Jaysus, bit extreme. Gotta be another way. Accusing someone of pedophila has got to be worse than murder.

PARlance · 16-06-2017 9:22am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I know that it is happening that women are falsely accusing men of rape. This is abhorrent and needs dealing with by the law.

Now I know someone who had completely consensual sex with a man, and this man's brother said "she said it was rape". I know for a fact she did not. Nor did the man in question. But the brother has decided to spread this all over social media, "Mary says John raped her!"

Mary is getting so many sympathetic messages saying "You were raped!" and John is getting so many messages saying "You didn't rape her, don't allow her to say so"'. They are both confused because they had consensual sex once and that was that.

Mary and John are very confused. Mary is now being accused of making up rape allegations against John. She never said anything of the sort. Her and John are still friends. But the allegations stick to both John and Mary.

I wish this was a hypothetical scenario but it isn't. This girl is being accused of making a false rape charge; and because rape has been mentioned, a label sticks to John.

Such drama. Tell both Mary and John to create a post the stop the rumours.

Mary: Rumours about John are untrue
John: please see Mary's post, lies are being spread about me.

End Drama.

silverharp · 16-06-2017 9:23am

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Jaysus, bit extreme. Gotta be another way. Accusing someone of pedophila has got to be worse than murder.

possibly but false rape is near the end of the scale anyway, I'd be feeling fairly boxed in myself if it was me. he'd have one chance to listen to reason then anything is fair game after which doesn't involve breaking the law.

lawred2 · 16-06-2017 9:25am

So why can't they simply say that the brother is a bellend who inexplicably made a bizarre untrue claim?

End of story.

somefeen · 16-06-2017 9:28am

Isnt this easily solved by them both just saying everything is untrue?

John: Mary did not make a false rape allegation against me

Mary: I wasn't raped and never accused John

and then never speaking to the brother again.

Seriously, this can only be happening if John and Mary are letting it happen.

kunst nugget · 16-06-2017 9:28am

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Jaysus, bit extreme. Gotta be another way. Accusing someone of pedophila has got to be worse than murder.

Ah, shure everyone's accusing people these days. Just say you think he's Anthony Luckwill moved into the area recently and you'll have a mob in no time…

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/second-innocent-man-wrongly-identified-as-paedophile-anthony-luckwill-35830280.html

lawred2 · 16-06-2017 9:30am

Why would she be keeping silent while her consensual partner is being labelled a rapist?

This is outside the pale of normal human behaviour so I think I'll call BS on it.

valoren · 16-06-2017 11:31am

The **** stirrer here is the man's idiotic brother.

I assume both John and Mary here agree it was consensual and he is creating a toxic drama which directly impacts both his brother and Mary.

If it were me, i would be contacting a solicitor for advice re slander and defamation.
Accusing someone of claiming rape is a very serious matter and this moronic clown should have known better.

Resist ZOG · 16-06-2017 1:24pm

John should lawyer up and take the accusers to court. Could be a big payday in this.

Op tell John to take screenshots of the rape accusations immediately.

16-06-2017 1:45pm

If this has gone all Inception, then does this mean that all of this is taking part in an Asian man's head?

kunst nugget · 16-06-2017 1:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If this has gone all Inception, then does this mean that all of this is taking part in an Asian man's head?

Is Cillian Murphy Asian?

16-06-2017 1:53pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

Is Cillian Murphy Asian?

The Asian guy is, though.

Irish Guitarist · 16-06-2017 2:26pm

The moral of this story is that if you're going to have sex make a Facebook live video of it and tag your brother.

Mountainsandh · 16-06-2017 2:37pm

PARlance wrote: »

Such drama. Tell both Mary and John to create a post the stop the rumours.

Mary: Rumours about John are untrue
John: please see Mary's post, lies are being spread about me.

End Drama.

+ 1
It's called communicating with words, that's what we used to do in the old times. Sorted a lot of problems.