Weds 30th early hours + morning: Munster/south Leinster snow and ice

Gaoth Laidir · 30-12-2020 11:16am

This is one where it all went south on us, literally. The precipitation just didn't materialise as models were showing, probably due to lack of upper forcing. We have a great big nothing out west when it comes to gathering data, so it's not surprising that we get a bust like this from time to time. We had good cold in place, it's just that the low got stage fright.

Nqp15hhu · 30-12-2020 11:24am

John O.Groats wrote: »

So why did it all go pear shaped?

Frontal events rarely deliver snow on this island.

munsterlegend · 30-12-2020 11:34am

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Wave was much weaker and further south than on model runs on Monday and probably weaker and further south than output even yesterday

South England were even expecting snow from this but looks unlikely now.

Fortunately the long term outlook is still of interest, our day of snow will surely arrive at some point over next 3 weeks!

True this only ever going to be a sloppy mess. Bound to get something of interest over the next few weeks though knowing our luck this SSW will tilt the charts against us.

Humberto Salazar · 30-12-2020 12:26pm

munsterlegend wrote: »

Met Éireann caught out by this one. I was sceptical myself going on what others had posted in here but looks like even high ground didn’t even benefit from this.

There are plenty of very knowledgeable posters here who called it a bust 24hrs ago. It was never going to amount to more than a dusting anywhere except high up. But this is a far different winter to last year's, and early enough in it for plenty more snow opportunities upcoming.

Gaoth Laidir · 30-12-2020 12:28pm

Even Texas can do it.

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1344129604383105024?s=19

pauldry · 30-12-2020 12:45pm

Looked at satellite last night on sat 24 and everything seemed to be slipping South before it arrived to our shores. Surely Met Eireann saw this. I only thought there would definitely be snow coz Met had it in their forecast and I thought they were more reliable than us here. But alas. Nobody but Kermit seems to know when there will be snow.

Pretzill · 30-12-2020 12:48pm

Another yellow warning that didnt go as planned - the last one, issued very late, removed a roof off an outbuilding here after borderline orange gusts - this one I was more snow hoping and looking forward to than anything else - we have a dusting on the hills and maybe there will be falls later.

But what irked my snow lonely head was the update this morning it changed the yellow snow warning to include fewer counties - it said the warning started at 6am but was issued at 6.57am (or something like that) Why do I get the feeling that someone is putting their arm out the window to gauge the weather lately

igCorcaigh · 30-12-2020 12:54pm

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

There was a yellow warning in fairness, and the risk was of snow to low levels. If, as appears, there wasn't even snow at higher levels then it is legitimate to ask what happened. That said, I'm glad ME put out a yellow warning for snow when there was a genuine risk. In the past they have been overly reluctant to do that in case, as has happened here, it doesn't come to pass. But no harm done, they warned us of a risk as the models and their expertise suggested same but that risk didn't ultimately come to pass. So be it, we move on. That's how it should be.

The warning is also for ice, which in itself is worth warning people about.

Kermit.de.frog · 30-12-2020 1:30pm

Fairly disappointing in the end but as others have said more opportunities to come over the next couple of weeks.

Very narrow margins between snow and no snow.

Graces7 · 30-12-2020 5:06pm

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The warning is also for ice, which in itself is worth warning people about.

Indeed yes. for road safety ice is more dangerous than snow.

Gaoth Laidir · 30-12-2020 8:02pm

Could be interesting down the eastern half of the country overnight as the band of precip moves southwards. May be a surprise for some.

Also, a trough off the northwest coast could produce some thundery activity.

Reversal · 30-12-2020 8:14pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Could be interesting down the eastern half of the country overnight as the band of precip moves southwards. May be a surprise for some.

Also, a trough off the northwest coast could produce some thundery activity.

Some good covering on the Wicklow hills by tomorrow evening you'd have to imagine.

JanuarySnowstor · 30-12-2020 8:33pm

There's a band of ppn moving South tomorrow that has snow written all over it!!
Hit or miss but South Midlands looks the sweet spot to me as it does weaken as it moves South.
It deserves a warning far more than last night's affair did.

Sub 528 thickness >
Uppers of -4 / -5
Ppn heavy at times
Offshore wind

I'd lay my last dollar that this one will catch Met Eireann on the hop!!

igCorcaigh · 30-12-2020 8:39pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

There's a band of ppn moving South tomorrow that has snow written all over it!!
Hit or miss but South Midlands looks the sweet spot to me as it does weaken as it moves South.
It deserves a warning far more than last night's affair did.

Sub 528 thickness >
Uppers of -4 / -5
Ppn heavy at times
Offshore wind

I'd lay my last dollar that this one will catch Met Eireann on the hop!!

Winter wonderland for Cork?

Billcarson · 30-12-2020 9:01pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

There's a band of ppn moving South tomorrow that has snow written all over it!!
Hit or miss but South Midlands looks the sweet spot to me as it does weaken as it moves South.
It deserves a warning far more than last night's affair did.

Sub 528 thickness >
Uppers of -4 / -5
Ppn heavy at times
Offshore wind

I'd lay my last dollar that this one will catch Met Eireann on the hop!!

Pity though it wasnt moving south during nightime hrs though instead of during the day.

JanuarySnowstor · 30-12-2020 9:17pm

Billcarson wrote: »

Pity though it wasnt moving south during nightime hrs though instead of during the day.

Imo that's not relevant at this time of year as there is little power in the sun anyway. As we found out today things like thickness and uppers are vital (none of which were in our favour today)
Expect a warning from Met Eireann tomorrow morning as they respond to snowfall being reported.
Just my gut from donkeys of reading charts

Captain Snow · 30-12-2020 9:23pm

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

There's a band of ppn moving South tomorrow that has snow written all over it!!
Hit or miss but South Midlands looks the sweet spot to me as it does weaken as it moves South.
It deserves a warning far more than last night's affair did.

Sub 528 thickness >
Uppers of -4 / -5
Ppn heavy at times
Offshore wind

I'd lay my last dollar that this one will catch Met Eireann on the hop!!

I think you will be right.

DOCARCH · 31-12-2020 9:43am

Closing this thread as this was a specific 'event' thread.

Weds 30th early hours + morning: Munster/south Leinster snow and ice

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