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Grass measuring 2015

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    #122
    freedominacup
    Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Your covering fair area by only being out by day free.
    I'm wondering will silage have to go back in here for march high demand then and those old leys and that reseed might grow feck all till grazed

    Grazed a lot of reseeds with light covers. Back into heavier ones over the past week. Fert going on Monday. You better be right about the 15-10-10 or you and me will be having words.


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    #123
    Greengrass1
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    Grazed a lot of reseeds with light covers. Back into heavier ones over the past week. Fert going on Monday. You better be right about the 15-10-10 or you and me will be having words.

    Jaysus I hope I am now ðŸ˜
    Ah we got a great response last yr going out at start with a good bit of our allowance in p and k.
    Hope this yr is just as good


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    #124
    Greengrass1
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    Lime going out on out farm today.
    Will be 50 maiden heifers on it thus yr with spring ones and autumn ones.
    Still 200 bales if silage over there untouched.
    Hope I get as much off it this yr as I did last yr


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    #125
    stretch film
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    15% grazed as of today. rain thurs night had an effect on ground conditions so headed for an dry but exposed spot last night . was unhappy that they got a wetting with the last of the showers followed with a stiff breeze and dropping temps. must have been like stepping out of the bath and into the fridge for the night:(


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    #126
    Brown Podzol
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    15%. 2 cows to ha calved and should be over 3.5 at March 1. 3.5 kg 14% meal and maize silage as buffer.


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    #127
    Greengrass1
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    Giving cows silage before evening milking then allocating av 6-7kgs grass.
    There's a bit of want for silage in them mostly autumn calved.
    Clean out a bit better some days.
    That's last nights allocation


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    #128
    Greengrass1
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    One of last yrs reseeds. Grazed a week today.
    I need a farm of this stuff. Was grazing it every ten days last yr


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    #129
    larrymiller
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Lime going out on out farm today.
    Will be 50 maiden heifers on it thus yr with spring ones and autumn ones.
    Still 200 bales if silage over there untouched.
    Hope I get as much off it this yr as I did last yr

    Fella I know has 600 bales of extra silage. Couldn't believe it.


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    #130
    trixi2011
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
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    One of last yrs reseeds. Grazed a week today.
    I need a farm of this stuff. Was grazing it every ten days last yr

    Greened up nice already it will be flying it when you get the slurry on. Trying to get a few reseeds grazed at the moment soft enough had to pull out of them after the rain yesterday


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    #131
    Greengrass1
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    larrymiller wrote: »
    Fella I know has 600 bales of extra silage. Couldn't believe it.

    Money in the bank. Over 100 still at home here.
    Had too many yrs here with no silage now. Never want to see it again


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    #132
    Greengrass1
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    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Greened up nice already it will be flying it when you get the slurry on. Trying to get a few reseeds grazed at the moment soft enough had to pull out of them after the rain yesterday

    Grazing hybrid here ATM great stuff to get cows to graze low
    Going into reseed we did in September then


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    #133
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Money in the bank. Over 100 still at home here.
    Had too many yrs here with no silage now. Never want to see it again
    its only the middle of February , they could be needed yet


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    #134
    trixi2011
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Grazing hybrid here ATM great stuff to get cows to graze low
    Going into reseed we did in September then
    Hopefully get to Finnish off ours latter in the week, promised a lot of rain here tomorrow hopefully it doesn't come


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    #135
    Greengrass1
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    its only the middle of February , they could be needed yet

    Oh I know. At least I have it and not going to have to compensate with meal


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    #136
    just do it
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    S72GeK.jpg
    Giving cows silage before evening milking then allocating av 6-7kgs grass.
    There's a bit of want for silage in them mostly autumn calved.
    Clean out a bit better some days.
    That's last nights allocation

    GG. Looks like not great clean out and a fair amount of trampled grass? Can be hard to tell from photos.

    I've been grazing heavy covers and getting on ok. Then the paddock with Sunday's rain and got terrible clean out. Unfortunately though they are 3 day paddocks and I'm not in a position to graze for 3-4hr periods. Would get much better clean out that way with smaller paddocks.


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    #137
    Greengrass1
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    just do it wrote: »
    GG. Looks like not great clean out and a fair amount of trampled grass? Can be hard to tell from photos.

    I've been grazing heavy covers and getting on ok. Then the paddock with Sunday's rain and got terrible clean out. Unfortunately though they are 3 day paddocks and I'm not in a position to graze for 3-4hr periods. Would get much better clean out that way with smaller paddocks.

    That's the trouble with giving silage even worse in the autumn.
    I gave them smaller area today and they clipped that right down


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    #138
    just do it
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    That's the trouble with giving silage even worse in the autumn.
    I gave them smaller area today and they clipped that right down

    Yeah I'd like to give much smaller allocations but Roman wasn't built in a day. Trying to get reseeds grazed as they've heavy covers and a few wet days here will have all the stock back in till God only knows.


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    #139
    Deepsouthwest
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    S72GeK.jpg
    Giving cows silage before evening milking then allocating av 6-7kgs grass.
    There's a bit of want for silage in them mostly autumn calved.
    Clean out a bit better some days.
    That's last nights allocation

    I'd be more than happy with that.


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    #140
    Milked out
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    Chanced the cows out here on the drier side of farm today in a paddock with a low enough cover after being in fir the last two days. Thought they were settling away when I went to close the gap when low and behold the neighbours dogs decide to come over and introduce themselves and 100 cows proceed to do a couple of laps of the field, cheap method of feckin ploughing anyway....


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    #141
    simx
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Money in the bank. Over 100 still at home here.
    Had too many yrs here with no silage now. Never want to see it again

    +1, have two handy pits here not opened yet, uncle buys and sells straw etc. he reckons if spring goes anyway natural pit silage will be got very right, hope to buy straw in May when cutting silage and put a lot on top of pit, hoping to gt for €6/€7/bale, can be got at minute for €8, offered 8x4x4 barley straw for €16 yesterday, nowhere to put it though atm


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    #142
    Timmaay
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    22% grazed, cows out by day, nothing else, but still a lot going through the parlour with a fair few April/may calvers not dry. I've been lazy enough this year about other figures like grass covers/% allocations etc, but staying within a week each side of the 1/3 area for March 1st and 2/3s paddy's day are very important. Pushing it in terms of amount of light poaching I'll admit, but that's something that doesn't hugely worry me, I always notice a very good recovery by the 2nd round in terms of growth.


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    #143
    Milked out
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    Just on the area grazed is it as a percentage of the milking block or is it whole farm? We will close 30% for 2 cut silage after it's grazed I assume for the targets lads would include this?


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    #144
    freedominacup
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Just on the area grazed is it as a percentage of the milking block or is it whole farm? We will close 30% for 2 cut silage after it's grazed I assume for the targets lads would include this?

    Whole farm.


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    #145
    Greengrass1
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    freedominacup wrote: »
    Whole farm.

    I've 16% grazed on whole farm. 22% in milking platform
    I was always using milking platform.
    Heifers might be going to grass Monday week


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    #146
    just do it
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Pushing it in terms of amount of light poaching I'll admit, but that's something that doesn't hugely worry me, I always notice a very good recovery by the 2nd round in terms of growth.
    it's a balancing act alright. I'm coming to the conclusion the good ground recovers quickly from light poaching. On the peat ground however you can't afford any poaching of the top layer. Much slower recovery and subsequently more prone to poaching.


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    #147
    freedominacup
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I've 16% grazed on whole farm. 22% in milking platform
    I was always using milking platform.
    Heifers might be going to grass Monday week

    With outfarms esp ground destined for silage I'd say the 30% is s bit less critical. You need the 30% on grazing platform to ensure adequate time for covers to build for the start of the next rotation in early April. Having the 30% grazed on outfarms helps though in a late spring. You have the covers t o allow you to keep the pressure off main grazing block if magic day is late.

    Over the past few years I have become less hung up on closing dates for silage and am inclined to close ground as surpluses appear. I closed some paddocks for first cut last year as I was driving down the farm roadway with the mower on to knock the first cut.

    I'll blanket spread the whole place first week of April with a bag and a half of ASN. Any ground deemed closed for silage will have gotten slurry and this ground and any other paddocks closed will be topped up depending on the weather since early April and the long term forecast around the 20th of the month. Probably around a bag of urea.


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    #148
    whelan2
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    what are grazing conditions like now?


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    #149
    trixi2011
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    what are grazing conditions like now?

    Not great over with us pretty sticky getting away with on off grazing but any more rain and we will be housed at night at least. Will try and keep some bit of grass in the diet as our silage in terrible


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    #150
    Milked out
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    what are grazing conditions like now?

    Clean out is excellent. ........ at the feed barrier:(


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    #151
    whelan2
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    Milked out wrote: »
    Clean out is excellent. ........ at the feed barrier:(
    same here, was nice to have them out for a few days , wonder when will they get out again


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