Genesis @ 3Arena 16 November 2020

fafy · 07-03-2020 5:16pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Didnt they also have some random guy singing in the 90s and it turned out a disaster

The album and tour was a bit of a disaster- sales wise at least, “Calling All Stations” was the album, without Phil - it just didn’t work for fans

Burty330 · 07-03-2020 6:41pm

I have to agree with Bateman about the 70's stuff.. Its the type of music you'd imagine neckbeards playing Magic The Gathering would listen to.

Not my cup of tea ,personally.

All the 80's stuff is great though.. Home By The Sea , Tonight, Tonight , Tonight , Duchess ... Fantastic tracks.

PTH2009 · 07-03-2020 7:42pm

Burty330 wrote: »

I have to agree with Bateman about the 70's stuff.. Its the type of music you'd imagine neckbeards playing Magic The Gathering would listen to.

Not my cup of tea ,personally.

All the 80's stuff is great though.. Home By The Sea , Tonight, Tonight , Tonight , Duchess ... Fantastic tracks.

Jesus he knows me is brilliant tune but dont think they will do that live tho

Kilteragh · 07-03-2020 8:50pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Didnt know Mike and the mechanics was a side project of Genises Mike Rutherford learn something new everyday

No strangely enough. I thought they might do one or two.

By the way even though he sat through the whole thing Phil's voice was still excellent and it was a very good concert.

greendom · 08-03-2020 9:59am

Following on from McLoughlin's mention of Spotify reminded me that Prog magazine asked readers for their favourite Genesis songs. They've put the top 40 into this Spotify playlist. Another excellent place to start...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/383VoYfZW1tjUQWcJEOR5P?si=KD7EFuh5TYqLEpOHpna9JQ

delbertgrady · 08-03-2020 11:29am

greendom wrote: »

Following on from McLoughlin's mention of Spotify reminded me that Prog magazine asked readers for their favourite Genesis songs. They've put the top 40 into this Spotify playlist. Another excellent place to start...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/383VoYfZW1tjUQWcJEOR5P?si=KD7EFuh5TYqLEpOHpna9JQ

For the uninitiated, it should be pointed out that the playlist is in reverse order.

greendom · 08-03-2020 12:42pm

delbertgrady wrote: »

For the uninitiated, it should be pointed out that the playlist is in reverse order.

I didn't actually realise that till you pointed it out but now it's obvious. Not much to disagree with either

Zardoz · 09-03-2020 12:46am

okidoki987 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if there was a 2nd gig, they will struggle to sell out at those prices.

Dublin and Belfast are getting 2nd dates ,info was already leaked.
Big gaps between the dates anyway ,easy to see the extra dates .
2 dates in Dublin is only 20k , they will easily sell that and sell it quickly.

okidoki987 · 09-03-2020 9:50am

Zardoz wrote: »

Dublin and Belfast are getting 2nd dates ,info was already leaked.
Big gaps between the dates anyway ,easy to see the extra dates .
2 dates in Dublin is only 20k , they will easily sell that and sell it quickly.

According to a friends brother, he said loads of people didn't know the tickets went general sale Monday and when they went into T/M on Friday saw there were only VIP for sale on there and assumed they had sold out!
Looking at Viagogo, people have paid some insane prices for tickets on there if they are right, €750 for Flat seating, €600 for Block D, Block A €350. :eek:

Mushy · 09-03-2020 10:15am

17th is up on Ticketmaster now

okidoki987 · 09-03-2020 10:16am

2nd Dublin date 17th November

Zardoz · 09-03-2020 10:28am

17th has disappeared again.
Ticketmaster are a shambles,should not be putting events on sale at 9am if most of the staff are still asleep.

random_banter · 09-03-2020 10:33am

Is the 16th Sold Out?

Picked up x4 tickets for myself and parents at 9.01. Pricey :eek:

Mushy · 09-03-2020 10:36am

Zardoz wrote: »

17th has disappeared again.
Ticketmaster are a shambles,should not be putting events on sale at 9am if most of the staff are still asleep.

It's on the app anyway

okidoki987 · 09-03-2020 10:56am

17th back working on website now.
Managed to pick up 2 tickets at €69.50 each (in the gods), couldn't substantiate paying
€200 a ticket.

delbertgrady · 09-03-2020 11:00am

Got flat seats for the second night. Very happy with that.
They clearly jumped the gun listing it too early and then putting it up again.

Ikozma · 09-03-2020 11:06am

I've decide against going, I don't think I'd want to see a half decrepit Phil Collins sat on a stool for 2 hrs tbh

Zardoz · 09-03-2020 11:18am

okidoki987 wrote: »

According to a friends brother, he said loads of people didn't know the tickets went general sale Monday and when they went into T/M on Friday saw there were only VIP for sale on there and assumed they had sold out!
Looking at Viagogo, people have paid some insane prices for tickets on there if they are right, €750 for Flat seating, €600 for Block D, Block A €350. :eek:

Viagogo are truly evil.
They pay Google to be top of searches for tickets ,so unwitting people get redirected there.

It would have said on Ticketmaster on Friday that general sale was today ,but alot of people unfortunately think Viagogo are an official site and they probably never even made it to Ticketmaster.
Nobody should buy anything on Viagogo,their business practices are vile.

Zardoz · 09-03-2020 11:25am

delbertgrady wrote: »

Got flat seats for the second night. Very happy with that.
They clearly jumped the gun listing it too early and then putting it up again.

It was listed at about 9.15 but I got an error when trying to get tickets .
I couldnt actually get tickets until around 9.45.
Managed to get 2 flat seats in row A ,right bang in the middle after searching for 10 minutes.:)

The second night seems to be struggling .

phunkadelic · 09-03-2020 11:39am

okidoki987 wrote: »

According to a friends brother, he said loads of people didn't know the tickets went general sale Monday and when they went into T/M on Friday saw there were only VIP for sale on there and assumed they had sold out!

TM had to make back lost revenue from the loss of seatwave.

This is their ploy-cut resale sites out of the picture and tout tickets directly on TM under the guise of 'vip', 'up close and personal' etc. Same seats at quadruple the price

McLoughlin · 09-03-2020 11:43am

Got one of the "cheap" nosebleed seats up in the gods never been to the 3arena so don't know what the seat area is like. Might go for a Tuesday night ticket what is the extra date for Belfast ?

RayCon · 09-03-2020 12:11pm

Ikozma wrote: »

I don't think I'd want to see a half decrepit Phil Collins sat on a stool for 2 hrs tbh

It'll cost him €200 if he wants to be near the stage :pac:

delbertgrady · 09-03-2020 12:35pm

Zardoz wrote: »

The second night seems to be struggling.

It'll be more a slow burner, but I expect it to be gone by the time of the gig. The same thing happened with Elton John's shows last summer: the second one was added and there was still good availability, even close to the time, but it did sell out, and ticket were comparable to Genesis. Plus, like Phil, he sits down all night.

:):D

okidoki987 · 09-03-2020 12:49pm

When looking earlier there was 500+ tickets for the 2nd night and it's now down to 260.

fafy · 09-03-2020 1:26pm

Was expecting a 2nd gig, was quite obvious after almost all the UK venues added another date.

So, wasn’t happy with the choice available on either the 1st gig

Presale, or the MCD presale, but a much better choice for the 2nd gig this morning, was going to go for €109.50, but felt they were just too far away, but eventually got 1 in section F row 11, for €159.50, don’t normally pay anywhere near that much, but its a one off and rare event.

Losendos · 09-03-2020 1:54pm

Got a ticket for the second night. It is one of the relatively cheap ones, high up, but that's fine.
Starting to worry now about what they will play. As you might guess, I'm a fan of the A Trick Of The Tail era and I'm hoping for a decent selection from around that time.

delbertgrady · 09-03-2020 2:11pm

Losendos wrote: »

Got a ticket for the second night. It is one of the relatively cheap ones, high up, but that's fine.
Starting to worry now about what they will play. As you might guess, I'm a fan of the A Trick Of The Tail era and I'm hoping for a decent selection from around that time.

A lot of it depends on what Phil can sing. I mean, Dance on a Volcano would be a very long shot, but Ripples is probably guaranteed, and I could see them doing Los Endos too, even without the double drums. Phil may like the idea of Nic getting to showcase his prowess on some of the seventies material.

This is it · 09-03-2020 2:16pm

Got tickets in P block. I was over in H for a UFC event and it wasn't great but a gig will be better I hope since I don't have to see them the whole time to enjoy it!

Lonesomerhodes · 09-03-2020 4:20pm

Can't believe they didn't get Steve Hackett for the reunion. He was the one who always wanted a reunion!.

Anyway expect Genesis 'pop lite' version.

Doubt anything will be played from Selling England by the pound which is their best album by a mile. 70's their output was unreal, experimental, classical, skilled, progressive, amazing changes.

The prices for the tickets are insane, some €700 tickets on ticketmaster is utterly absurd.

Total and complete fleecing.

I hate this 'oh it's a once off thing' so we can charge whatever the hell we want.
A concert is still just a concert.

Still going but know I'm getting the pop lite Genesis.

fafy · 09-03-2020 4:38pm

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Can't believe they didn't get Steve Hackett for the reunion. He was the one who always wanted a reunion!.

Anyway expect Genesis 'pop lite' version.

Thats been the lineup of Genesis for more than 40 years, since the late 70’s, so hardly a surprise Hacket, who hasn’t played with them since ‘77 ish, is not there. I am sure they will dip into the pre ‘80’s output, but not that often i would think.

Lonesomerhodes · 09-03-2020 4:46pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Viagogo are truly evil.
They pay Google to be top of searches for tickets ,so unwitting people get redirected there.

It would have said on Ticketmaster on Friday that general sale was today ,but alot of people unfortunately think Viagogo are an official site and they probably never even made it to Ticketmaster.
Nobody should buy anything on Viagogo,their business practices are vile.

Oh would harden up a little, people will exploit when something is in demand like this it's just life.

And anyway Ticketmaster are worse, they have tickets up for €700 'officially' priced tickets.

Ticketmaster tout like crazy then have the nerve to say don't use tout sites. The nerve of these priks beggars belief!.

Lonesomerhodes · 09-03-2020 4:48pm

phunkadelic wrote: »

TM had to make back lost revenue from the loss of seatwave.

This is their ploy-cut resale sites out of the picture and tout tickets directly on TM under the guise of 'vip', 'up close and personal' etc. Same seats at quadruple the price

Viagogo and co can't hold a candle to ticketmaster in ripping people off

Anyone who can't see the VIP packages are a rip off are away with the fairies.

Lonesomerhodes · 09-03-2020 5:02pm

fafy wrote: »

Thats been the lineup of Genesis for more than 40 years, since the late 70’s, so hardly a surprise Hacket, who hasn’t played with them since ‘77 ish, is not there. I am sure they will dip into the pre ‘80’s output, but not that often i would think.

No doubt it.

Despite selling England by the pound being amazing it's a odd very non pop album

Many going won't have heard of songs like Dacning with the Moonlit Knight.

loyatemu · 09-03-2020 5:59pm

fafy wrote: »

Thats been the lineup of Genesis for more than 40 years, since the late 70’s, so hardly a surprise Hacket, who hasn’t played with them since ‘77 ish, is not there. I am sure they will dip into the pre ‘80’s output, but not that often i would think.

they did quite a bit of the older stuff on their last reunion tour. Maybe they'll bring Hackett on as a guest on one of the UK dates (though I get the impression the others still hold his departure against him to some degree, so maybe not).

PTH2009 · 09-03-2020 6:03pm

Ticket already arrived dis morning

McLoughlin · 09-03-2020 6:20pm

loyatemu wrote: »

they did quite a bit of the older stuff on their last reunion tour. Maybe they'll bring Hackett on as a guest on one of the UK dates (though I get the impression the others still hold his departure against him to some degree, so maybe not).

Hackett is on tour at the same time and he is the one with bit of chip on shoulder its allways the 5 piece or 3 piece line up never 4 piece. Last time all 4 were on board and wanted Peter but when Peter said no Hackett was also dropped. Even the last documentary glossed over the 4 piece era of the band and Hacketts career.

It's sad but 4 piece line up doesn't get much praise or interest

greendom · 09-03-2020 9:54pm

Steve Hackett's touring band is amazing. They put on a fantastic show at Vicar Street a couple of years ago.

Latest tour is a rework of "Seconds Out" the stunning 70s live album when they were a 4 piece.

Unfortunately I don't think they're coming to Ireland this time round. Still tickets and flights to a European or UK venue would be cheaper than some of Genesis ticket prices

loyatemu · 09-03-2020 11:57pm

McLoughlin wrote: »

Hackett is on tour at the same time and he is the one with bit of chip on shoulder its allways the 5 piece or 3 piece line up never 4 piece. Last time all 4 were on board and wanted Peter but when Peter said no Hackett was also dropped. Even the last documentary glossed over the 4 piece era of the band and Hacketts career.

It's sad but 4 piece line up doesn't get much praise or interest

the 4 piece lineup would be very awkward. With Collins singing they'd have to do all the hits, what would Hackett do on the likes of Invisible Touch? He'd be a spare wheel.

If they had all 5 members, some sort of "Genesis Revue" would be interesting, where they could cover the various eras of the band, maybe some mini solo sets and then come together at the end to do a bit of The Lamb, or Supper's Ready; but as mentioned earlier, Gabriel's not interested in going back to that stuff.

bnt · 10-03-2020 5:22pm

loyatemu wrote: »

the 4 piece lineup would be very awkward. With Collins singing they'd have to do all the hits, what would Hackett do on the likes of Invisible Touch? He'd be a spare wheel.

I don't think anyone seriously considers Hackett rejoining the band for a full set, but what about part of the set? We're still eight months away, the set list is not finalised, and pigs might fly ... :P

rednik · 10-03-2020 5:29pm

bnt wrote: »

I don't think anyone seriously considers Hackett rejoining the band for a full set, but what about part of the set? We're still eight months away, the set list is not finalised, and pigs might fly ... :P

Steve was asked if the band had been in contact and he said no. I would imagine the same case for Peter.

PTH2009 · 28-03-2020 4:21pm

I bet there happy the put the tickets on sale when they did

Hope to god this crisis is over or at least at bay by November

Having something like gigs to look forward to is an escape from all the current affairs

McLoughlin · 28-03-2020 10:12pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

I bet there happy the put the tickets on sale when they did

Hope to god this crisis is over or at least at bay by November

Having something like gigs to look forward to is an escape from all the current affairs

I know people probably not buying tickets for anything till they know when this crisis is over and with jobs losses aswell reducing people's expenditure.

I'm hoping it's over by November been dusting of my genesis albums and also spending time listening to various solo albums that I hadn't listen to before.

PTH2009 · 22-04-2020 2:20pm

Touch and go for this taking place in November or been moved to 2021

Be nice to have this in November

McLoughlin · 22-04-2020 3:53pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Touch and go for this taking place in November or been moved to 2021

Be nice to have this in November

I think it will depend on how things are in the UK aswell Ireland could be ok for large gigs but if the UK isnt then it will be moved or cancelled.

PTH2009 · 22-04-2020 4:42pm

McLoughlin wrote: »

I think it will depend on how things are in the UK aswell Ireland could be ok for large gigs but if the UK isnt then it will be moved or cancelled.

Fingers crossed

PTH2009 · 17-06-2020 11:15pm

we live in hope but theirs about 80/20 chance this gig will be postponed and take place in 2021/22

I was wondering today is this tour going to be used as a warm up of sorts to get the appetite back and we could see a summer outdoor tour in 2021

johnnyskeleton · 17-06-2020 11:50pm

I hate these covid restrictions:

I cant dance
I cant talk
the only thing about me is the way that I walk

McLoughlin · 18-06-2020 12:54pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

we live in hope but theirs about 80/20 chance this gig will be postponed and take place in 2021/22

I was wondering today is this tour going to be used as a warm up of sorts to get the appetite back and we could see a summer outdoor tour in 2021

Magazine interview mentioned possible USA tour depending on how well this goes (ie Collins health) Interview also said Collins plans some instrumental work and potential set list "Fading Lights" will be played as its the perfect final song for a final tour

TheIrishGrover · 18-06-2020 2:31pm

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

I hate these covid restrictions:
I cant dance

I cant talk

the only thing about me is the way that I walk

PTH2009 · 18-06-2020 3:05pm

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

I hate these covid restrictions:
I cant dance

I cant talk

the only thing about me is the way that I walk

You'll be fine cause Jesus he knows me

Genesis @ 3Arena 16 November 2020

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