Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018/2019 pt2

Not a bad result considering but it was dead rubber

Must give United, Ferguson and Mourinho their due very nice gesture before the game.

jonneymendoza wrote: »

When Fabregas rvp and adebeyor was at arsenal and we still couldn't compete. That was when wenger should have gone! That team. Any manager would have got there panties wet managing that

Wenger was far too nice with the likes of Adebayor and Gallas. They would have been dodging hot cups of coffee under Fergie.

Interesting story in Ray Parlours book. He returned to Arsenal to train and keep up his fitness around 08/09. He said Fabregas and Gallas were not on speaking terms. The club captain and the most influential player not talking to each other.....Says it all really. Wenger completely lost control.

Gallas should have been sold on after his embarrassing sulk in 2008 at St Andrews. Instead he remained club captain, was eventually removed as captain after criticising the team in the media back around October 2008, and stayed on until the summer of 2010. Wenger was far too loyal. You cant make two men be friends but if the team morale is being affected then its time to at the very least tell them grow up or ship out.

batistuta9 wrote: »

Someone like him would be underwhelming, why I was laughing at it.
But when are these guys ready?
Look at simeone or conte, were they ready for atleti or juve? Idk the answer but it's the same for all of them, someone has to take chance with them.

Ancellotti has turned down the Italy job today.

You make very fair and good points.

Its hard to explain why UK managers seem to struggle under the weight of big clubs.

Harry Redknapp was arguably the most successful in the step up from Portsmouth to Tottenham (i know, i know they arent a big club :P) but then again Tottenham were bottom of the league under Juande Ramos when Harry took over so it made it that bit easier.. Added to that Harry had years of experience and was well respected.

In terms of relatively fresh managers, Rodgers taking the Liverpool job in 2012 was probably the most successful. He did benefit from Suarez and probably should have won the league. Rodgers seems to be of a different coaching mindset in that he is a student of a passing and attacking game even if he has his critics. He is more aligned to the Spanish style of play then an English one and while his spell didnt end well he still spent over 3 years at Liverpool and almost won the league. In modern football, it wasn't a bad spell really even if it didnt yield a trophy. Like Redknapp though, Rodgers didnt have as much to lose given he took over from the second coming of Kenny Dalglish which brought them nowhere in terms of getting into the Champions league

I suppose the best example i can think of is a comparison with how Gary Neville fared at Valencia and how much Pottechino has brought Tottenham on. I think the continent is well ahead in terms of coaching. That all said though, it could be just simply a player mindset thing too. Maybe Spain and Italy are more open to new fresh ideas?

Could Howe be a revelation at Arsenal? I fear not. Other than a short stint at Burnley, he has spent his whole club and managing career at Bournemouth. He has done a terrific job there to be fair but Arsenal is a whole different animal. Ray Parlour often refers to the fact that Bruce Rioch referenced 'When I was at Bolton' quite alot at Arsenal during his short spell much to the squads annoyance. Bruce stabilised Arsenal but its hard to say how he would have fared the following season. He clashed with Ian Wright who was Arsenal's top scorer

Moyes was so terrified of failing at United that he automatically had a damage limitation mindset. You spend 11 years or so at a very family oriented club where everyone from Chairman, Bill Kenwright to the cleaning lady are all like one big happy family and leave that to go out of your comfort zone and right into the belly of an absolute beast. For some reason on the continent, they manage the transition more successfully.