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Is this appropriate interview attire if I don't have a full

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  • #52
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    limnam wrote: »
    Fascinating insight into the world of interviews.

    That's simply not true.

    Here's a fact. Any interview where I have been on the panel and where the person was expected to wear a suit in work, no man ever attended without wearing a suit.


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    hanky2016 wrote: »
    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    In your line of work.

    My line of work being the pharmaceutical industry
    I'm a pharmacist and any interview panel I've been involved in, all the candidates have worn suits.


  • #54
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I think the point is that while a suit is preferred in most cases, trousers, shirt and tie would be ok too. Not ideal but likely not a deal breaker. In my opinion anyway.

    In my place of work the normal attire is cons, jeans and t-shirts/shirts. I did however wear a full suit to the interview.


  • #55
    Dev84
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Im a civil servant and for every interview i have done or panel i have been on all candidates have worn suits. Thats the men.


  • #56
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Here's a fact. Any interview where I have been on the panel and where the person was expected to wear a suit in work, no man ever attended without wearing a suit.

    Here's another fact for you.

    I work in one of the biggest companies in the world.

    There's rarely a day where there wouldn't be a number of interviewee's in the building.

    A huge amount of the jobs you would be required to suit up in.

    I can count on one hand in the last few years the amount of suits I've seen.

    Maybe your company has a reputation of been old fashioned and stuffy.


  • #57
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    limnam wrote: »
    Here's another fact for you.

    I work in one of the biggest companies in the world.

    There's rarely a day where there wouldn't be a number of interviewee's in the building.

    A huge amount of the jobs you would be required to suit up in.

    I can count on one hand in the last few years the amount of suits I've seen.

    Maybe your company has a reputation of been old fashioned and stuffy.

    You're just being childish now. I'll leave it at that.


  • #58
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Dev84 wrote: »
    Im a civil servant

    If I was going for a job as a civil servant I'd probably suit up too.


  • #59
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    You're just being childish now. I'll leave it at that.

    You can think so.

    It's actually true.


    shrug.


  • #60
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    limnam wrote: »
    You can think so.

    It's actually true.


    shrug.

    No, your point about my 'company' was childish (inaccurate also, as it happens). You know nothing about me.


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  • #61
    LambDev
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 19 ✭LambDev


    pilly wrote: »
    How did the interview go OP?

    I feel it went quite well. The interview lasted the full half an hour that had been allocated for it. This is an improvement in its self for me. Last year I had interviews for internships where they were scheduled for between 20 - 30 minutes, they never lasted the full amount of time, one was even 12 minutes long. So I'm learning how to talk more in interviews, and I asked some questions at the end to get more information about how the company and the role itself.

    I spent the time talking about my experiences working in teams, how I dealt with conflict in teams, and even the development methodologies I used doing teamwork. A lot of time talking about my background/Projects also.

    I wore black slacks and shoes, shirt and tie, and as suggested by people took my jacket off before I went in. The attire of the company seems to be business casual. The dev team manager was wearing chinos and a shirt/jumper combo. So that's fine.

    I really hope I get it, as it feels like a great opportunity.


  • #62
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    LambDev wrote: »
    I really hope I get it, as it feels like a great opportunity.

    Sounds like it went great.


  • #63
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Best of luck! Let us know! :)


  • #64
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Based on how you come across in your posts, I'd employ you. Best of luck!


  • #65
    LambDev
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 19 ✭LambDev


    Hopefully. I don't have the best track record with interviews. I have only ever succeeded in 1 out of the 4 I have done. But this one feels like the time I was successful. I'll report back either way.

    Thanks everyone for all your advice.


  • #66
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Based on how you come across in your posts, I'd employ you. Best of luck!

    Not if he wasn't wearing a suit you wouldn't. :pac:


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  • #67
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    limnam wrote: »
    One's who do give a sh|t you're probably better off finding somewhere else to work anyway

    This is such a common yet naive opinion these days.

    I do give a **** when I'm interviewing. I know very little about this person in front of me, based on very little information I need to make a judgement about their work ethic, their attitude and their approach to things that are important.

    So why on earth would I not give a **** about how the candidate presents him or herself? And why the hell would giving that **** mean we are a bad place to work?

    The only way your comment makes sense is if the candidate is a lazy twat who only wants to work for places that have low standards, in which yes, if the candidate can't be bothered presenting properly then they probably are better off looking elsewhere.


  • #68
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    This is such a common yet naive opinion these days.

    What's "naive" about it.

    If people are making calls based on the difference between a suit and dressing smart/neatly. They're probably not very competent. If I'm been interviewed by them there's a good chance I have to work with them or for them. Work can be tough enough without been surrounded by incompetence. If either side can figure this out before you start working there. It's win win.
    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I do give a **** when I'm interviewing. I know very little about this person in front of me, based on very little information I need to make a judgement about their work ethic, their attitude and their approach to things that are important.

    So use your interviewing skills to extract what you need and have your interview process setup so the company doesn't have to rely on idiotic assumptions about someone wearing a suit or dressing smart.

    Again it's normally down to an interviews incompetence that leads to them rely on things like clothes.
    bucketybuck wrote: »
    So why on earth would I not give a **** about how the candidate presents him or herself? And why the hell would giving that **** mean we are a bad place to work?

    Because as long as they present themelves well it doesn't matter if it's in a suit or in smart/neath clothing. because it shows a level of laziness and incompetence from the interviewer. I don't want to be working for or along side incompetence
    bucketybuck wrote: »
    The only way your comment makes sense if if the candidate is a lazy twat who only wants to work for places that have low standards, in which yes, if the candidate can't be bothered presenting properly then they probably are better off looking elsewhere.

    Normally interviewers with this basic level of interview skill are the ones who are lazy and incompetent. Hence it's good to avoid such work palaces where possible.

    You're deciding to you whats "properly". Again, we're not talking about strolling in a tracksuit.


  • #69
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    limnam wrote: »
    They're probably not very competent.
    Work can be tough enough without been surrounded by incompetence
    idiotic assumptions about someone wearing a suit or dressing smart.
    Again it's normally down to an interviews incompetence
    because it shows a level of laziness and incompetence from the interviewer.
    I don't want to be working for or along side incompetence
    Normally interviewers with this basic level of interview skill are the ones who are lazy and incompetent.

    :rolleyes:


  • #70
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    I expected nothing less.

    insightful


  • #71
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    limnam wrote:
    It's actually true.

    limnam wrote:
    You can think so.

    limnam wrote:
    shrug.


    How mature. The interview is now over so not even sure what you're trying to do except be a smart arse.


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  • #72
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Sounds like it went great OP, always a good sign when it lasts a while.

    Don't worry about only getting 1 in 4, that's not unusual. Interviewers often have a number of great candidates and a tough choice.

    Once you keep on going for interviews then you're going get the right one.


  • #73
    wally1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭wally1990


    limnam wrote: »
    Here's another fact for you.

    I work in one of the biggest companies in the world.

    There's rarely a day where there wouldn't be a number of interviewee's in the building.

    A huge amount of the jobs you would be required to suit up in.

    I can count on one hand in the last few years the amount of suits I've seen.

    Maybe your company has a reputation of been old fashioned and stuffy.

    I’m very surprised at this
    I believe you but just very surprised

    Regardless of what is actually happening .

    I would have ‘assumed’ that ‘most’ people who get an interview would automatically wear a suit to the interview but your saying that’s isn’t the case.

    Is there a chance a suit is mentioned as not required in the interview Inviation email/call?

    I would Always wear a suit to an interview

    Btw best Of luck OP!!


  • #74
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    limnam wrote: »
    I expected nothing less.

    insightful

    Your posts deserve no less, its pretty clear from your immature posts and comments that you aren't worth debating with. Its also very clear that you have never conducted an interview in your life.


  • #75
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Your posts deserve no less, its pretty clear from your immature posts and comments that you aren't worth debating with. Its also very clear that you have never conducted an interview in your life.

    So you respond with immature nonsense.

    sound.


  • #76
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    wally1990 wrote: »
    I’m very surprised at this
    I believe you but just very surprised

    Regardless of what is actually happening .

    I would have ‘assumed’ that ‘most’ people who get an interview would automatically wear a suit to the interview but your saying that’s isn’t the case.

    Is there a chance a suit is mentioned as not required in the interview Inviation email/call?

    I would Always wear a suit to an interview

    Btw best Of luck OP!!

    You can read about our interview processes for a lot of the jobs on glass door.

    But we don't mention expected attire in any communications prior to the interview


  • #77
    Avatar MIA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    It's horses for courses.

    I've interviewed with a person who puts great store into how people are dressed. It's their company so they can have the criteria they desire. Myself, it's down to 'Has this person made an effort' and that's a 0.5 of a second assessment and then it's down to the interview propper.


    But, as I've stated I have been in an interview where I thought the person would be suitable, but they were shot down by the owner because of the way they dressed, admittedly on this occasion the person would have been representing the company, but they have made similar comments (but not deciding factors that I know of) re other candidates for other roles.

    And no to the jumper (of any kind) and avoid the puffer jacket (seriously?)

    For your attire to not get you any marks or deduct you marks, polished shoes, trousers and a tie that doesn't completely clash with your shirt are a minimum for most jobs.


  • #78
    LambDev
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 19 ✭LambDev


    So I'm still waiting to hear back a week later.


  • #79
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    LambDev wrote: »
    So I'm still waiting to hear back a week later.

    Absent any other info, I wouldn't necessarily worry about that.

    I held a series of interviews back on the 9th, and have been so busy with other matters since that it was only earlier this week that I sat down to actually make a decision on what we were doing next.

    And thats a case where it was my decision to make, never mind having to run it by anybody else! Sometimes managers are just busy, a week isn't too egregious a timeframe.


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