Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

COYVB · 16-08-2014 4:56pm

The whole back 4 was very good, Senderos included

Frankie Lee · 16-08-2014 4:58pm

It should help alleviate some of the pressure on Lambert too which hampered the team last season at VP.

Bounty Hunter · 16-08-2014 5:01pm

3 points at The Brittania on day 1, with the whole defense looking good (no goals against) including Hutton who I wasn't sure about putting in a very good shift and Senderos who I think gets too much stick forming a good partnership with Vlaar. Andi got a goal and looked lively. Sanchez to be added, Benteke to return, Nzogbia again in contention and Grealish getting time.

Bright start all round. Will hopefully give the side some confidence now too

COYVB · 16-08-2014 5:21pm

Lambert says he's hoping for another one or two in

LeBash · 16-08-2014 5:26pm

Grealish looks like a confident fella.

COYVB · 16-08-2014 5:26pm

LeBash wrote: »

Grealish looks like a confident fella.

Not quite confident enough yet. Tends to pass instead of shoot when he's got a chance

Frankie Lee · 16-08-2014 5:28pm

Hard to know where the team can be improved on a budget of about £3m. Hopefully any attacking midfielder or winger signed doesn't end up hampering the progress of Grealish.

basillarkin · 16-08-2014 5:49pm

Great start onwards and upwards.

Patser · 16-08-2014 6:27pm

5 of the 11 posts since full time mention confident or confidence, are we allowed be optimistic now!!

A balanced team with a sudden appearance of experienced players - not the youngsters of 2 seasons ago - Guzan Hutton Senderos Vlaar Richardson N'Zogbia all late 20s (and Gabby too but let's not mention him). Sanchez another experienced player in.

I can't see this team turning into as much of a headless chicken as at times over the last 2 seasons.

And also I reckon Keane will also have a hugely stabilising effect, especially if performances or confidence starts to dip.

COYVB · 16-08-2014 6:30pm

Midfielder is the main target, with a loan for a striker the secondary according to Trent on VT

Frankie Lee · 16-08-2014 6:45pm

Patser wrote: »

5 of the 11 posts since full time mention confident or confidence, are we allowed be optimistic now!!

A balanced team with a sudden appearance of experienced players - not the youngsters of 2 seasons ago - Guzan Hutton Senderos Vlaar Richardson N'Zogbia all late 20s (and Gabby too but let's not mention him). Sanchez another experienced player in.

I can't see this team turning into as much of a headless chicken as at times over the last 2 seasons.

And also I reckon Keane will also have a hugely stabilising effect, especially if performances or confidence starts to dip.

And it is hard to quantify how much harm was done by Karsa and Culverhouse's "unprofessionalism" last season.
Roy Keane has mellowed a lot in recent years and although he had a reputation as an authoritarian figure I can't imagine he was ever a bully.
Being a number two hopefully suits him.

Frankie Lee · 16-08-2014 7:59pm

COYVB wrote: »

Midfielder is the main target, with a loan for a striker the secondary according to Trent on VT

Cambiasso never signed for Leicester after, he would not be a bad deep lying playmaker beside Sanchez.

LeBash · 16-08-2014 8:19pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

And it is hard to quantify how much harm was done by Karsa and Culverhouse's "unprofessionalism" last season.
Roy Keane has mellowed a lot in recent years and although he had a reputation as an authoritarian figure I can't imagine he was ever a bully.
Being a number two hopefully suits him.

Were Karsa and Culverhouse sacked by the club or Lambert in the end?

COYVB · 16-08-2014 8:21pm

the club with lambert's backing i believe was the official line

Frankie Lee · 16-08-2014 8:58pm

COYVB wrote: »

the club with lambert's backing i believe was the official line

According to Trent at the time (and he has proven to be every bit as ITK as hairyhands) was that Lambert wanted Culverhouse sacked but wasn't allowed by the board. When they were ousted he stated that the players clapped Lambert onto the pitch for training the next day.

Neil3030 · 16-08-2014 9:44pm

Keane can be the fire, Lambert can be the sugar. Rice and Wenger had the same dynamic at Arsenal for years and it worked well.

Being a consistent hard ass is only a problem when you're the only voice, players get sick of it.

And that's not even saying that Keane hasn't mellowed, who knows what sort of relationship he has with the players.

Bounty Hunter · 16-08-2014 10:04pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

Keane can be the fire, Lambert can be the sugar. Rice and Wenger had the same dynamic at Arsenal for years and it worked well.

Being a consistent hard ass is only a problem when you're the only voice, players get sick of it.

And that's not even saying that Keane hasn't mellowed, who knows what sort of relationship he has with the players.

I was thinking the same thing about Keano, yes he has mellowed supposidly in how he will deal with players (as the assistant he has to have anyway) but you could see the passion he had on the sideline. It rubbed off on the fans and id imagine it may do the same with the players too

CSF · 17-08-2014 9:34am

As delighted as I am with the result, and excited for the trip over for the Hull game in 2 weeks, I do urge caution in our optimism...

matrim · 17-08-2014 9:44am

CSF wrote: »

As delighted as I am with the result, and excited for the trip over for the Hull game in 2 weeks, I do urge caution in our optimism...

Agree with this. Our September and October are awful and it's entirely possible we won't get any points for 2 months and end with no confidence

Frankie Lee · 17-08-2014 12:27pm

matrim wrote: »

Agree with this. Our September and October are awful and it's entirely possible we won't get any points for 2 months and end with no confidence

The team generally does well against the big team (with the exception of Man Utd but they are not a big team anymore) and all them games are on Champions League weeks. Results can be got.

LeBash · 17-08-2014 1:00pm

Apparently KEA is home sick and want to go back to Holland.

Would like to keep him. His first season was woeful but last year he had quite a few solid games and looked good on the ball when on form. Was hoping he would build on that this year.

JPA · 17-08-2014 1:10pm

LeBash wrote: »

Apparently KEA is home sick and want to go back to Holland.

Would like to keep him. His first season was woeful but last year he had quite a few solid games and looked good on the ball when on form. Was hoping he would build on that this year.

Certainly a hard worker but lacks quality.
If another mid comes in and Gardner actually becomes a player who is available we could afford to lose him.

LeBash · 17-08-2014 1:36pm

JPA wrote: »

Certainly a hard worker but lacks quality.
If another mid comes in and Gardner actually becomes a player who is available we could afford to lose him.

Gardener is too injury prone. Maybe he is being squeezed out by Sanchez but id rather have him than not. I still think we are light weight in the centre

COYVB · 17-08-2014 2:04pm

LeBash wrote: »

Gardener is too injury prone. Maybe he is being squeezed out by Sanchez but id rather have him than not. I still think we are light weight in the centre

Gardener and Sanchez are totally different players. Gardener is an attaching mid more than anything

JPA · 17-08-2014 2:05pm

LeBash wrote: »

Gardener is too injury prone. Maybe he is being squeezed out by Sanchez but id rather have him than not. I still think we are light weight in the centre

I know he's injury prone but he was given a new contract so hopefully gets a chance. We are in for a midfielder, maybe KEA is expected to go.

cyclops999 · 17-08-2014 10:41pm

Senderos Vlaar looked a good combo yesterday.

Villain · 18-08-2014 10:02am

Watched most of the game live, not a bad performance but sloppy in the final third, it's going to be a long season but hopefully we can survive.

Going to take a while to get used to seeing Keane on the sidelines, and given his antics at Ipswich I hope he doesn't loose the head when the going gets tough!

Neil3030 · 18-08-2014 1:21pm

Don't worry lads, I'll stick a fiver on Villa to get relegated, that'll see us finish comfortably in mid-table, AT LEAST.

Corholio · 18-08-2014 1:46pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

Don't worry lads, I'll stick a fiver on Villa to get relegated, that'll see us finish comfortably in mid-table, AT LEAST.

'comfortably'

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Did you mean 'torturously'?

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Corholio · 18-08-2014 2:02pm

I'm not Gabby's biggest fan but even I think this is a bit harsh on him :pac:

https://vine.co/v/M3mX5DxBmQt

Corholio · 19-08-2014 7:04pm

Linked with John Arne Riise and Sebastian Blanco of Metalist Kharkiv.

I very much doubt the Riise one is a runner with Cissokho signed. Blanco seems an interesting player though.

COYVB · 19-08-2014 10:19pm

New CEO looks like being Arsenal's Tom Fox. He's currently their Chief Commercial Officer and has apparently played a massive part in their work over the past while. On paper he looks like a fantastic addition

Corholio · 20-08-2014 12:03am

Looks a pretty strong appointment alright. One must wonder why he'd come with the club up for sale though, no doubt Randy has put something that the CEO will remain in place with whatever new owners, therefore maybe making the club even harder to sell. His current actions of making not much transfer money available and then making long terms appointments is somewhat all over the place.

The other way of thinking is potential new owners are already on board with this and have ratified the appointment.

astonaidan · 20-08-2014 2:12am

Corholio wrote: »

Looks a pretty strong appointment alright. One must wonder why he'd come with the club up for sale though, no doubt Randy has put something that the CEO will remain in place with whatever new owners, therefore maybe making the club even harder to sell. His current actions of making not much transfer money available and then making long terms appointments is somewhat all over the place.

The other way of thinking is potential new owners are already on board with this and have ratified the appointment.

Id be thinking a long the lines, that there is a new man lined up, who doesnt really want to spend money in this transfer market and would rather see how the club is fairing come winter

JPA · 20-08-2014 7:36am

This is a significant appointment, whatever it means with regard Lerner I'm not sure but it seems this guy should get the club going in a positive direction.

LeBash · 20-08-2014 10:28am

I have no idea who he is but correct me if im wrong. Has he been at Arsenal during thier most unsucessful period in the last 2 decades?

I dont see why he will be a wonder signing or am i missing something?

Villain · 20-08-2014 10:47am

LeBash wrote: »

I have no idea who he is but correct me if im wrong. Has he been at Arsenal during thier most unsucessful period in the last 2 decades?

I dont see why he will be a wonder signing or am i missing something?

Unsuccessful??

Arsenal have been in the Champions almost every year, challenged for the title, on a secure financial footing with a super new stadium, that is some pretty awesome success!

Unless of course you are comparing to Man City who have a Billionaire throwing money away for fun? The changes of finding another one of them is rather slim and in the long term it may not be a success!

JPA · 20-08-2014 1:47pm

LeBash wrote: »

I have no idea who he is but correct me if im wrong. Has he been at Arsenal during thier most unsucessful period in the last 2 decades?

I dont see why he will be a wonder signing or am i missing something?

Because he has turned Arsenal into a club with one of the highest turnovers in world football.

circadian · 20-08-2014 2:31pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

Villa dropped off that list in 2012/13

Arsenal are consistently performing well in terms of revenue and finances. They lost 2 spots but they were also up against PSG and Man City who are throwing money around.

Corholio · 20-08-2014 3:21pm

Bennett going on loan to Brighton for the season apparently.

matrim · 20-08-2014 6:18pm

Corholio wrote: »

Bennett going on loan to Brighton for the season apparently.

Makes sense. We have Richardson and Cissoko who can cover that position now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stephens and maybe Clark or Baker go on loan too

Corholio · 20-08-2014 6:44pm

Quotes from Lambert. Wants 2 more in apparently.

“If we bring a few more in, and with Carlos coming, it will add to the squad massively. If we get the injured lads back pretty quickly, we’re going to be strong.”

JPA · 20-08-2014 7:29pm

matrim wrote: »

Makes sense. We have Richardson and Cissoko who can cover that position now. I wouldn't be surprised to see Stephens and maybe Clark or Baker go on loan too

The squad is simply too big, just taking up squad numbers!

Can see a couple of more senior players going before the end of the window, Bent and KEA maybe.

COYVB · 20-08-2014 8:37pm

26 in the squad now. Need at least one more out if no more in. All those players out on loan though... There's surely not going to be much space for them on their return

circadian · 20-08-2014 9:07pm

Could Bent not just be released? Just take the hit to free up space on the squad. I don't see anyone paying money and if they did it'd be pennies of the £24m.

Neil3030 · 21-08-2014 1:33pm

Nah, there's nothing to gain from releasing Bent, unless he agrees to a compromise deal on his outstanding wages. However slim the chance some team will take him on loan, take over his contract, or that he even may retire through injury (insurance payoff), you forfeit these possibilities by releasing him.

Best case scenario is a club, possibly the MLS, are willing to offer him a deal that's long enough to entice him to rescind his outstanding wages, in exchange for longer term stability. Though I reckon it's unlikely; it'd need to be north of 15k per week in a 5+ year deal for him to be quids in. In reality it'd probably need to be a good deal higher than that per week to make it worth his while. And for a limited 30 year old, losing pace, with patchy form over the last few years, I really can't see anyone being bothered.

COYVB · 21-08-2014 5:00pm

circadian wrote: »

Could Bent not just be released? Just take the hit to free up space on the squad. I don't see anyone paying money and if they did it'd be pennies of the £24m.

It'd cost the exact same to release him as it would to keep him, and if we keep him there might come a time where he could possibly be useful. I have to say I was surprised he didn't start last weekend, and I think he should be used until Benteke and Kozak are back as even though he's still rusty, he can still put the ball in the net if the opportunity finds him. More chance of him scoring than Agbonlahor anyway

COYVB · 21-08-2014 5:04pm

Fox confirmed as new CEO

Neil3030 · 21-08-2014 7:20pm

COYVB wrote: »

It'd cost the exact same to release him as it would to keep him, and if we keep him there might come a time where he could possibly be useful. I have to say I was surprised he didn't start last weekend, and I think he should be used until Benteke and Kozak are back as even though he's still rusty, he can still put the ball in the net if the opportunity finds him. More chance of him scoring than Agbonlahor anyway

True. He would have buried that chance Richardson created for Gabby in the first half. The former must be wondering what the hell he got himself into, beats two lads down the right flank, rounds the keeper, squares it to the 'striker' six yards from goal who proceeds to brainfart the ball toward the corner flag.

circadian · 21-08-2014 7:26pm

It really was worse than the Cissokho miss for Liverpool last year.

My point wasn't really for financial reasons. There's too many in the squad, if Lambert wants to sign more and he isn't going to use Bent then letting him go might be better than waiting for a potential loan/transfer. I agree he could be useful but it depends on Lambert playing him.

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