La Liga Superthread 2016/17

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Could YOU provide evidence please?

Could YOU regarding those drug allegations? A Spanish official will intact present evidence on this current day case. Historically how about the league blocking Di Stefano going to Barcelona, or the league delaying Barcelona signing south American players for almost 2 years leading which following an investigation led to rule change and then Cruyff signing for Barcelona, or the Copa Del Rey 1943 semi final where the players were threatened to throw the game. Never doubt the lengths Madrid will go to in order to keep Catalonia down.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I'm sorry but could you edit that post so it's actually, yknow, legible?

You're normally good with using big words and being able to construct some semblance of a sentence so don't let yourself down now.

And while you're at it, take the ridiculous lies out of the post too

How many paragraphs would you like? 1? 2? Maybe 3? I'll even throw one in now, right here

Bang! A new paragraph. Paragraphs must be a real concern for you because you seem far more focused on that rather than providing this hard evidence of drug use at Barcelona or even arguing my historically accurate account of offences committed against Barcelona by the administration and Real Madrid.

And one more paragraph to soothe your nerves.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

The post I was referring to made absolutely no sense because most of it was just words thrown together, have a look and see for yourself.

You didn't post historically accurate accounts at all, you posted rumours to show poor little Barca in a good light. Where's the concrete evidence of Barca being told to lose the game in 1943? Concrete evidence now, not rumours.

Where's the evidence of Di Stefano being forced to sign for Madrid rather than Barca? A transfer **** up which came down to Barca paying the wrong team money for the player.

I have no concrete evidence of Barca drugging their players just like you have no evidence of any of the utter tripe you post in here on a regular basis.

There's more paragraphs for you to get excited over.

The last retort of the beaten man is to become an adjudicator of speech.

From 3-0 to 11-1. Every account you read of that match speaks of corruption, biased officiating and a team nothing like they were in the first leg as the result of fear. If you can't understand the context the game took place in at the time then I'd be as well off discussing this with my 8 year old sister.

This from FC Barcelona's website

"In 1953, FC Barcelona signed Di Stéfano after reaching an agreement with River Plate, the club that owned the rights to the player. At the same time, Real Madrid carried out negotiations with Millonarios, the team that Di Stéfano was playing for then. A strange federative manoeuvre with Francoist backing stipulated that Di Stéfano should play alternate seasons with each club. Barça went against the verdict and relinquished the player. Kubala’s Barça and Di Stéfano’s Madrid competed for many years for the domination of national football."

This was a regime that even demanded Barcelona change their name to sound more Spanish. Never doubt the jealousy and suspicion with which a CastilIan views FC Barcelona.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

You've jumped the shark baby. When you want to provide CONCRETE evidence come back to me

That reply was thoroughly disappointing. Ironically this started with you throwing around wild claims of drug use, and it ends with me backing up my argument and you flailing about with demands of seeing "concrete evidence." Funny that eh?

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Barca were discussing the transfer of DiStefano with the wrong club. The only ones to blame for the transfer not going through is Barca themselves. Time to suck it up and accept it.

You have zero evidence of the players being forced to lose their game in 1943, again basing it on rumours that paint Barca as a small time club trying to be squashed by the big bad machine.

It's embarrassing and the fact that you can't see Barca are just as bad as every other club is just cringe worthy. Shall we get in to their constant tapping up of players at other clubs? What about the transfer bans that they always seem to get a way around?

Join us in the real world, it's not that bad a place really.

Haha and where did you read that? I assume from the bosom of Franco's journalists.

Actually it's based on practically every existing record there is of that game and of players recounts of what occurred, what are you basing it on?

Weird that seems like an entirely different topic to the one we were talking about (which you clearly realise isn't going so well for you and thus the hasty need for a change of subject). Just to get back to your original point(because clearly you won't) in terms of drug use you say here that Barcelona are like any other big club in Europe, if you accept your own opinion and you believe that Barcelona players to be doping then surely you assume every big club is doping their players?

Even your zingers at the end have lost their thrust.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Could you state where I said that I believe Barca are the only club guilty of drugging players? I certainly don't remember saying that.

I'll simplify it for you shall I? Barca agreed a transfer with River Plate for Di Stefano, a strange thing to do considering he didn't play for them anymore. They dealt with the wrong club, Madrid dealt with the correct club and got the player eventually.

Good man on yet again deflecting from my points which show Barca in a bad light.

So let me get this straight because I'm not sure I understand. You believe every top club to be doping? Strange then that I don't see you go to each thread on this forum and bring up these doping misdemeanours. Unless of course you have an agenda against Barcelona, which I suppose would make you as biased against Barcelona as I am in favour of Barcelona? That must really bug you.

Please give me a source for that, I gave you a source, an account of the transfer from the very club involved in the transfer, I'd say that's quite the source.

Haha you mean like how you've had two bites at Barcelona and I've shut you down both times? At this stage you just seem to be throwing darts at a board to see what random topic you'll try to get me with next.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Barca discussed a transfer with the wrong club. Apologies for bursting that bubble for you pal.

I've obviously touched a nerve with you and I apologize for that, but look at least if Barca lose today you can jump on the Bayern bandwagon, or maybe the Chelsea one, they're surely due to turn things around soon.

BTW, I am far from anti Barca. I'm merely anti bull****.

Haha I've enjoyed this, most of it was performed on an empty stomach having just woken up too but alas now I must go.

You're lack of sources and, finally, your outburst which I think you hoped would be a vicious assault on my character but amounts to little more than clawing at my coat-tails have put me in a good mood and has eased my stomach ahead of the Clasico. I don't often get to tie someone in verbal knots but this was fun. I'll see you later, when we can celebrate Barcelona together. Visca El Barça!

Going to.my 1st la liga game tomorrow betis v atlético Madrid, cant wait, i hear the atmosphere in the villamarin us excellent.

Justice (well at least some) in FIFA as Real Madrid are set to be handed a transfer ban for the duration of 2 windows for committing the same breaches of transfer of young players rules as Barcelona did.

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Justice (well at least some) in FIFA as Real Madrid are set to be handed a transfer ban for the duration of 2 windows for committing the same breaches of transfer of young players rules as Barcelona did.

Funny that when it was Barcelona in this situation it was your "pet peeve" when people referred to it as a transfer ban. Looks like its not so much of an issue for you now

Andersonisgod wrote: »

My pet peeve has quickly become "the transfer ban." It's not a transfer ban, it's never been a transfer ban, its a registration ban, it's not out fault that the media interpreted it wrong, it's not our fault that you believed the media's incorrect interpretation of the ban so stop using it as a stick to beat the club. It isn't some wild conspiracy to keep Barcelona on top, it isn't Uefa showing favouritism, it's them enforcing the actual punishment dealt to the club, not the punishment that the media and you think it is.

Ah yes, throw in the words "dumb down" a few times to make yourself feel like an intellectual superior. Very original. I was merely pointing out the apparent hypocrisy or your 2 posts.

Half time between Betis and Levante, Betis winning 1-0, Joaquin playing very well, some legend.

Meanwhile in Spain, at the league award gala Barcelona left the night with 5 trophies overall, Real Madrid with 3 (!). Messi was also named best player in the league. Among the highlights were the league giving Ramos best defender, James best midfielder, the league literally making up an award to give to Ronaldo, to add to the hilarity they called this made up award "most popular player" and they gave it to a guy who only recently was booed by his own fans. The league then denied that Messi is South American, thus denying him a hat trick of awards. All in a good days work here in La Liga.

Dani Alves the latest high profile name to add to the list of those who are becoming less conspiracy theorists and more realists. He says "There's a campaign against Barcelona? Yes. By whom? By the capital" - credit to BarcaStuff for that, from the source Cope.