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Upgrade Windows 7 to 10 for free (still works)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭banchang


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Just a heads up that support for Windows 7 ends next month so if you have an activated copy then you can still get the Windows 10 upgrade for free (the offer which was supposedly ended a year or so back).

    I upgraded my folks computer yesterday following this guide

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/


    Save you a hundred euro or so :D

    When I try to run the tool after download, I get :

    'There was a problem starting Setup. Close the tool, restart your PC, and then try running the tool again.'

    I do all that & get the same message when I try to run it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    banchang wrote: »
    When I try to run the tool after download, I get :

    'There was a problem starting Setup. Close the tool, restart your PC, and then try running the tool again.'

    I do all that & get the same message when I try to run it.

    a few solutions here

    https://www.intowindows.com/fix-there-was-a-problem-starting-setup-error-while-running-media-creation-tool/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭zinzan


    What happens ones files folders, info, pictures, so on. will that remain after an update?

    If you install as an upgrade it should all still be available - however as with all installs, make sure you've backed up first to reduce chances of data loss and lack of compatibility with the newer version.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭dingding


    Since the upgrade I am missing some files from the desktop. Any idea where I can find them, are the old files retained anywhere for reversing the process. Also I seem to have freed up 10 GB with the upgrade.

    Any ideas appriciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭RickyBobby1


    dingding wrote: »
    Since the upgrade I am missing some files from the desktop. Any idea where I can find them, are the old files retained anywhere for reversing the process. Also I seem to have freed up 10 GB with the upgrade.

    Any ideas appriciated.

    Did you do a backup before the upgrade? Sounds like you didn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    dingding wrote: »
    Since the upgrade I am missing some files from the desktop. Any idea where I can find them, are the old files retained anywhere for reversing the process. Also I seem to have freed up 10 GB with the upgrade.

    Any ideas appriciated.

    Do you still have windows old folder? They could be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭branners69


    Thanks for the reminder OP, I bought a Windows 8 Pro licence a couple of years back from MS for €15.

    I have an old Lenovo X230 laptop which I put an additional 4gb of ram, 240gb ssd and a usb 802.11ac adapter into. The total spend was €60!

    It is like a new laptop now running Windows 10 Pro!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭5star02707


    Thanks OP updated mine, tried the first time (keep account) it failed but then tried the second time (clear accounts and files) then it worked.
    dingding wrote: »
    Since the upgrade I am missing some files from the desktop. Any idea where I can find them, are the old files retained anywhere for reversing the process. Also I seem to have freed up 10 GB with the upgrade.

    Any ideas appriciated.

    Should be under C: drive and in the folder "old window files"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I didn't have much luck until I freed up about 35 GB of space on Drive C:


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A clean install of Windows 10 is preferable to an update really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    glasso wrote: »
    A clean install of Windows 10 is preferable to an update really

    Be careful with this, you need to upgrade first to activate cleanly then do a clean install afterwards, it is more time consuming obviously but you won't get activation problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭styron


    The upgrade option is free as you're meant to be retiring a 7 for a 10. A compromise avoiding potential data issues and a cleaner upgrade
    is to shrink and create a second partition, do a fresh validated install of 7 and upgrade that to win 10 - effectively dual booting win 10 alongside your original 7 OS, migrating data at your leisure.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Be careful with this, you need to upgrade first to activate cleanly then do a clean install afterwards, it is more time consuming obviously but you won't get activation problems.

    You can use your existing win 7 key so no need to upgrade first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,305 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Going to have a go at this but first stupid question is how do I find my Windows 7 key?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    muffler wrote: »
    Going to have a go at this but first stupid question is how do I find my Windows 7 key?

    Jellybean key finder


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  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ColdTurkey


    The PC was going in the bin, had my heart broke with freezes. Clean install this evening and its flat out since. Thanks for the heads up Op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    muffler wrote: »
    Going to have a go at this but first stupid question is how do I find my Windows 7 key?
    Possibly on a sticker at rear of PC or underneath of laptop.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Will 10 upgrade onto a Vostro all in one desktop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    muffler wrote: »
    Going to have a go at this but first stupid question is how do I find my Windows 7 key?

    Download this:
    Solaris10 wrote: »

    I did it last night and it worked perfectly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    glasso wrote: »
    You can use your existing win 7 key so no need to upgrade first.

    Sometimes it won't accept the key saying it's the incorrect type etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭m8


    Mine updated no issues, thanks OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Sometimes it won't accept the key saying it's the incorrect type etc.


    I have an illegible smudged W 7 sticker / key on the base of my Sony laptop.
    So I used 3 key retrieval tools; Balarc Advisor, Magic Jelly Bean & Product key finder, all of which gave me an identical key value which doesn't match parts of the smudged sticker that I can read. The retrieved key was rejected during my W 10 clean install.

    The Sony has the original W7 OS preinstalled.
    What is the Irish phone number for Windows support ?
    solutions anyone ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    mrtom wrote: »
    I have an illegible smudged W 7 sticker / key on the base of my Sony laptop.
    So I used 3 key retrieval tools; Balarc Advisor, Magic Jelly Bean & Product key finder, all of which gave me an identical key value which doesn't match parts of the smudged sticker that I can read. The retrieved key was rejected during my W 10 clean install.

    The Sony has the original W7 OS preinstalled.
    What is the Irish phone number for Windows support ?
    solutions anyone ?

    Is W7 still working? If so, upgrade from within W7, once W10 is up and running you can clean install it. If W7 is gone you can try one of those eBay windows key sellers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    mrtom wrote: »
    I have an illegible smudged W 7 sticker / key on the base of my Sony laptop.
    So I used 3 key retrieval tools; Balarc Advisor, Magic Jelly Bean & Product key finder, all of which gave me an identical key value which doesn't match parts of the smudged sticker that I can read. The retrieved key was rejected during my W 10 clean install.

    The Sony has the original W7 OS preinstalled.
    What is the Irish phone number for Windows support ?
    solutions anyone ?

    Sounds like your lacking space on that laptop, copy over all your important files onto an external USB key or HDD first, delete all your old programs to have about 40gb free and then try it and see how you get on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Fieldog wrote: »
    Sounds like your lacking space on that laptop, copy over all your important files onto an external USB key or HDD first, delete all your old programs to have about 40gb free and then try it and see how you get on...

    His W7 key was rejected during activation as an OEM key I'd imagine, Dell's are the worst for this caper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    His W7 key was rejected during activation as an OEM key I'd imagine, Dell's are the worst for this caper.

    Still up to their old trick's?

    I remember they used to do something similar back in the XP days!


  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Tamsta


    mrtom wrote: »
    I have an illegible smudged W 7 sticker / key (…)
    solutions anyone ?
    Use a crack to activate Win7 :P No win7 files are used during upgrade so even in an unlikely case of crack been' not the nicest piece of software it will not be able to survive upgrade (delete windows.old folder after upgrade is done). Or, if you want to be 100 percent sure, simply clean install win10 later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    His W7 key was rejected during activation as an OEM key I'd imagine, Dell's are the worst for this caper.


    So does the OEM status bar me from upgrade / reinstall of W 10? Most consumers have OEM products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    Tamsta wrote: »
    Use a crack to activate Win7 :P No win7 files are used during upgrade so even in an unlikely case of crack been' not the nicest piece of software it will not be able to survive upgrade (delete windows.old folder after upgrade is done). Or, if you want to be 100 percent sure, simply clean install win10 later.


    During clean install of W 10, the first few minutes say "Preparing ......", its at this point it detects the embedded key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    How long until the windows.old folder is deleted automagically?

    It's about 30 GB.. if I delete it I get 60GB free space, but before I installed Windows 10, Windows 7 only gave me 38GB free space even after Disk Cleanup.

    wtf, was Windows 7 just full of junk?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Tamsta


    mrtom wrote: »
    During clean install of W 10, the first few minutes say "Preparing ......", its at this point it detects the embedded key.
    Embedded key, just as TV licence inspector's magic watch, does not exist ;) But this is completely different story that has nothing to do with this discussion; all we need to know here is that Microsoft doesn't care if your windows are "legal" or not. All they want is you to use Windows 10 so they let you upgrade your old computer even if it is running cracked win7 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭styron


    mrtom wrote: »
    I have an illegible smudged W 7 sticker / key on the base of my Sony laptop.
    So I used 3 key retrieval tools; Balarc Advisor, Magic Jelly Bean & Product key finder, all of which gave me an identical key value which doesn't match parts of the smudged sticker that I can read. The retrieved key was rejected during my W 10 clean install.

    The Sony has the original W7 OS preinstalled.
    What is the Irish phone number for Windows support ?
    solutions anyone ?


    Showkeyplus usually gives both the OEM and installed keys, but the free install applies only to upgrading (ie. retiring) a valid Win7.



    The upgraded 10 can be cleanly reinstalled once automatically activated (digital license from MS servers) or by using the Win7 key


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    mrtom wrote: »
    So does the OEM status bar me from upgrade / reinstall of W 10? Most consumers have OEM products.

    No, upgrade first then clean install if needed afterwards just don't clean install first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    No, upgrade first then clean install if needed afterwards just don't clean install first.

    Ah, if only this was the case! My W7 wont update; Error: 0x8007001f-0x20006
    I attempted to upgrade my Sony Viao pcg-71911m to W 10.
    Late in the process after downloading & processing, it flagged error :

    w 10 upgrade failed
    0x8007001f-0x20006
    the installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during REPLICATE_OC operation

    I have followed all the steps in guide:
    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-update-keeps-failing-0x8007001f-0x20006

    Ran the Win online update repair tool, SFC etc etc

    So my research tells me this error related to update issue in my case is an ehco of a deeper malaise.

    The attch show upgrade error & my smugged Win sticker.
    As my key retrival tools produce a mismatch with the sticker this is becoming the perfect storm !
    intriguing stuff altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    styron wrote: »
    Showkeyplus usually gives both the OEM and installed keys, but the free install applies only to upgrading (ie. retiring) a valid Win7.



    The upgraded 10 can be cleanly reinstalled once automatically activated (digital license from MS servers) or by using the Win7 key


    thanks for your time.
    Show key plus reveals the key that the clean install rejected & states OEM Key "Windows 7 OEM marker present in firmware".


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Had an issue with a partly-unreadable product key in the past myself. Found this solution online and it worked for me:

    Simple yet very effective solution. I used a blunt pencil to dap blobs of acrylic paint onto the label 5 chracters at a time, let it dry about 30 seconds to a minute then dab with a dry tissue. Finally used a damp peice of tissue to VERY lightly wipe away the paint. Some paint sticks to the chracters because they are embossed and so you can read them. Took me 45-60 mins of blobbing and wiping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    Quackster wrote: »
    Had an issue with a partly-unreadable product key in the past myself. Found this solution online and it worked for me:

    Simple yet very effective solution. I used a blunt pencil to dap blobs of acrylic paint onto the label 5 chracters at a time, let it dry about 30 seconds to a minute then dab with a dry tissue. Finally used a damp peice of tissue to VERY lightly wipe away the paint. Some paint sticks to the chracters because they are embossed and so you can read them. Took me 45-60 mins of blobbing and wiping.


    Ah, the ultimate analog approach !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭styron


    Looks like the Sony CoA Key might be a red herring according to Blencogo.

    This tallies with my Dell OEM SLP (System Locked Protection) licence experience: an originally supplied disc reinstall or factory reset automatically (re)activates Win 7 - by matching a SLP product key "stored in the bios" automatically during the install. It's a volume licence key picked up by key finders, but cannot be manually inputted during the install.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    styron wrote: »
    Looks like the Sony CoA Key might be a red herring according to Blencogo.

    This tallies with my Dell OEM SLP (System Locked Protection) licence experience: an originally supplied disc reinstall or factory reset automatically (re)activates Win 7 - by matching a SLP product key "stored in the bios" automatically during the install. It's a volume licence key picked up by key finders, but cannot be manually inputted during the install.


    Clear item on Sony & Win stickers, good read & nice find.


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    mrcheez wrote: »
    How long until the windows.old folder is deleted automagically?

    It's about 30 GB.. if I delete it I get 60GB free space, but before I installed Windows 10, Windows 7 only gave me 38GB free space even after Disk Cleanup.

    wtf, was Windows 7 just full of junk?

    you can delete is straightaway.

    an accumulation of updates over years on the old windows 7 means that the clean install takes up less space than the old one

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-delete-the-windows-old-folder-from-windows-10/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    mrtom wrote: »
    Ah, if only this was the case! My W7 wont update; Error: 0x8007001f-0x20006
    I attempted to upgrade my Sony Viao pcg-71911m to W 10.
    Late in the process after downloading & processing, it flagged error :

    w 10 upgrade failed
    0x8007001f-0x20006
    the installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during REPLICATE_OC operation

    I have followed all the steps in guide:
    https://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-update-keeps-failing-0x8007001f-0x20006

    Ran the Win online update repair tool, SFC etc etc

    So my research tells me this error related to update issue in my case is an ehco of a deeper malaise.

    The attch show upgrade error & my smugged Win sticker.
    As my key retrival tools produce a mismatch with the sticker this is becoming the perfect storm !
    intriguing stuff altogether

    The Win7 OEM key built in to the firmware of your (or indeed anyone’s) device will never match the key on the CoA sticker.

    This is a peculiarity of older Windows activation methods such as that used in 7.
    Key in the firmware is a generic key for the brand of your device, Dell, HP, Acer, etc. and version that has been supplied for said device, whether Win7 Home, Pro, Ultimate.
    Key on the CoA is unique to your device, but it is not used from the factory. It is only supplied as a legal requirement.
    In Windows 7, OEM Windows devices (i.e. big name brands like Dell, not home built PCs made by buying individual components yourself, as many of us also do) use the generic key from the firmware (BIOS) of the device, which is validated against an OEM.xrm-ms certificate that is part of the Windows system files installed from a Windows 7 OEM install dvd.

    Windows 7 OEM dvds for the various OEM brands contain the certificates needed for that brand. A Dell disc, for example, will install on, again for example, a HP computer, but it will not give you an activated system, because the Dell cert and the HP firmware key won’t match.

    If you currently have a Windows 7 install that is activated and working (I mean working other than refusing to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows Update) then I would recommend that you also Google about the following. I have tried to explain as best I can, but hopefully it points you on the right track to research what I speak of before doing it, just to reassure yourself and learn what’s involved.
    (This I should point out is completely legit method, not piracy in any way. You will be using Microsoft tools to do this, and you are entitled to this licence if you have a legit Windows 7.)

    Get Microsoft Windows 10 media creation tool. A small app to download, this will allow you to get an install ISO of Win10 that you can burn to a DVD and use. Or you can if you know how use a USB key. (Learn about an app called Rufus if you want to use a USB. You’ll need it to make an install USB)
    If you currently have Win7 home basic or home premium, then get Win 10 home ISO. If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate then get Win10 Pro.

    On a Windows 10 install disc there is a file that may be used to generate an activation file from your valid Win7 install which can then be used to permanently activate a corresponding, cleanly installed Win10 install on the same machine, without any need to go through the upgrading from Windows 7 rigmarole.

    The file is named “gatherosstate.exe” and it is contained in the sources folder of any Windows 10 install disc.
    Windows 10 activation is different to Windows 7, the branding of your machine won’t matter here, this is a generic method.
    If you copy this file to a folder on your pc, (anywhere on the hard drive, but make sure it is the only file in the folder). Run the file and it will create a XML file “GenuineTicket.xml”, which you should save to some place safe like on a memory stick, as you’ll need to use it later to activate 10. (Clean install will wipe the hard drive/SSD of your computer.)

    The rest of the instructions I will just copy/paste from another site
    This can also circumvents the "Something happened, Windows 10 installation has failed" error while upgrading. :)

    Preconditions:
    You have Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.x activated successfully (retail or OEM licensing only). This doesn't apply to volume licenses such as KMS or MAK.
    Download the Windows 10 ISO that's suitable for the upgrade path i.e. Windows 7 Ultimate or Pro will upgrade to Windows 10 Pro.

    Instructions:
    Optional: Validate your copy of Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.x
    Install all necessary drivers e.g. ethernet & wireless card
    Open your Windows 10 ISO and extract gatherosstate.exe from the sources folder to your desktop
    Run gatherosstate.exe and wait for the GenuineTicket.xml file to be created
    Copy the GenuineTicket.xml to a USB thumb drive or something
    Boot to your Windows 10 USB or DVD and perform a fresh install
    Disable your internet connection
    Copy GenuineTicket.xml to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket\ and then reboot
    Connect online and you should be activated

    If you ever perform a clean install in the future simply select "I don't have a product key" and then when you connect online Windows will activate itself.

    If you can’t see the “Program Data” folder after installing 10, go into folder options in the Windows file explorer and tick show hidden files and folders, as it is by default hidden.

    Sorryif I made some typos, as I am doing this on an iPad.
    Good luck! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    duridian wrote: »
    The Win7 OEM key built in to the firmware of your (or indeed anyone’s) device will never match the key on the CoA sticker.

    This is a peculiarity of older Windows activation methods such as that used in 7.
    Key in the firmware is a generic key for the brand of your device, Dell, HP, Acer, etc. and version that has been supplied for said device, whether Win7 Home, Pro, Ultimate.
    Key on the CoA is unique to your device, but it is not used from the factory. It is only supplied as a legal requirement.
    In Windows 7, OEM Windows devices (i.e. big name brands like Dell, not home built PCs made by buying individual components yourself, as many of us also do) use the generic key from the firmware (BIOS) of the device, which is validated against an OEM.xrm-ms certificate that is part of the Windows system files installed from a Windows 7 OEM install dvd.

    Windows 7 OEM dvds for the various OEM brands contain the certificates needed for that brand. A Dell disc, for example, will install on, again for example, a HP computer, but it will not give you an activated system, because the Dell cert and the HP firmware key won’t match.

    If you currently have a Windows 7 install that is activated and working (I mean working other than refusing to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows Update) then I would recommend that you also Google about the following. I have tried to explain as best I can, but hopefully it points you on the right track to research what I speak of before doing it, just to reassure yourself and learn what’s involved.
    (This I should point out is completely legit method, not piracy in any way. You will be using Microsoft tools to do this, and you are entitled to this licence if you have a legit Windows 7.)

    Get Microsoft Windows 10 media creation tool. A small app to download, this will allow you to get an install ISO of Win10 that you can burn to a DVD and use. Or you can if you know how use a USB key. (Learn about an app called Rufus if you want to use a USB. You’ll need it to make an install USB)
    If you currently have Win7 home basic or home premium, then get Win 10 home ISO. If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate then get Win10 Pro.

    On a Windows 10 install disc there is a file that may be used to generate an activation file from your valid Win7 install which can then be used to permanently activate a corresponding, cleanly installed Win10 install on the same machine, without any need to go through the upgrading from Windows 7 rigmarole.

    The file is named “gatherosstate.exe” and it is contained in the sources folder of any Windows 10 install disc.
    Windows 10 activation is different to Windows 7, the branding of your machine won’t matter here, this is a generic method.
    If you copy this file to a folder on your pc, (anywhere on the hard drive, but make sure it is the only file in the folder). Run the file and it will create a XML file “GenuineTicket.xml”, which you should save to some place safe like on a memory stick, as you’ll need to use it later to activate 10. (Clean install will wipe the hard drive/SSD of your computer.)

    The rest of the instructions I will just copy/paste from another site



    If you can’t see the “Program Data” folder after installing 10, go into folder options in the Windows file explorer and tick show hidden files and folders, as it is by default hidden.

    Sorryif I made some typos, as I am doing this on an iPad.
    Good luck! :)
    That information about creating an activation xml is gold. The amount of times we have had to install windows 7 in order to upgrade to a licensed version on windows 10. This will save lots of time as upgrades take longer even from a fresh windows 7 installation.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    glasso wrote: »
    you can delete is straightaway.

    an accumulation of updates over years on the old windows 7 means that the clean install takes up less space than the old one

    https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-delete-the-windows-old-folder-from-windows-10/

    Ah makes sense. Yes most of my SSD for C: was taken up with Windows 7 updates!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭mrtom


    duridian wrote: »
    The Win7 OEM key built in to the firmware of your (or indeed anyone’s) device will never match the key on the CoA sticker.

    This is a peculiarity of older Windows activation methods such as that used in 7.
    Key in the firmware is a generic key for the brand of your device, Dell, HP, Acer, etc. and version that has been supplied for said device, whether Win7 Home, Pro, Ultimate.
    Key on the CoA is unique to your device, but it is not used from the factory. It is only supplied as a legal requirement.
    In Windows 7, OEM Windows devices (i.e. big name brands like Dell, not home built PCs made by buying individual components yourself, as many of us also do) use the generic key from the firmware (BIOS) of the device, which is validated against an OEM.xrm-ms certificate that is part of the Windows system files installed from a Windows 7 OEM install dvd.

    Windows 7 OEM dvds for the various OEM brands contain the certificates needed for that brand. A Dell disc, for example, will install on, again for example, a HP computer, but it will not give you an activated system, because the Dell cert and the HP firmware key won’t match.

    If you currently have a Windows 7 install that is activated and working (I mean working other than refusing to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows Update) then I would recommend that you also Google about the following. I have tried to explain as best I can, but hopefully it points you on the right track to research what I speak of before doing it, just to reassure yourself and learn what’s involved.
    (This I should point out is completely legit method, not piracy in any way. You will be using Microsoft tools to do this, and you are entitled to this licence if you have a legit Windows 7.)

    Get Microsoft Windows 10 media creation tool. A small app to download, this will allow you to get an install ISO of Win10 that you can burn to a DVD and use. Or you can if you know how use a USB key. (Learn about an app called Rufus if you want to use a USB. You’ll need it to make an install USB)
    If you currently have Win7 home basic or home premium, then get Win 10 home ISO. If you have Win7 Professional or Ultimate then get Win10 Pro.

    On a Windows 10 install disc there is a file that may be used to generate an activation file from your valid Win7 install which can then be used to permanently activate a corresponding, cleanly installed Win10 install on the same machine, without any need to go through the upgrading from Windows 7 rigmarole.

    The file is named “gatherosstate.exe” and it is contained in the sources folder of any Windows 10 install disc.
    Windows 10 activation is different to Windows 7, the branding of your machine won’t matter here, this is a generic method.
    If you copy this file to a folder on your pc, (anywhere on the hard drive, but make sure it is the only file in the folder). Run the file and it will create a XML file “GenuineTicket.xml”, which you should save to some place safe like on a memory stick, as you’ll need to use it later to activate 10. (Clean install will wipe the hard drive/SSD of your computer.)

    The rest of the instructions I will just copy/paste from another site



    If you can’t see the “Program Data” folder after installing 10, go into folder options in the Windows file explorer and tick show hidden files and folders, as it is by default hidden.

    Sorryif I made some typos, as I am doing this on an iPad.
    Good luck! :)


    Finally a way forward duridian ;);)

    Yes, worked exactly as described !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,861 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez




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  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin


    My laptop won't connect to my TV with a hdmi ever since I upgraded, any ideas?

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    My laptop won't connect to my TV with a hdmi ever since I upgraded, any ideas?

    Cheers.
    The graphics driver is not compatible with Windows 10. Look for an updated driver. What is the graphics card model.
    I wonder if it's an amd dual graphics. I had serious trouble with one a while back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    My laptop won't connect to my TV with a hdmi ever since I upgraded, any ideas?

    Cheers.

    W10 probably installed a generic driver for your graphics card/ on-board graphics. Go to the manufacturers site and download their graphics driver, that should unlock all its features.


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭St. Lupulin




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