Alcoholism

Woodsie1 · 13-06-2020 5:00am #1

What makes someone an alcoholic?

Asking for a friemd:o

I love getting pissed....think i went too far tonight:eek:

Central Services · 13-06-2020 5:04am

What seems to be the officer, problem?

Woodsie1 · 13-06-2020 5:08am

Central Services wrote: »

What seems to be the officer, problem?

Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

One_Time · 13-06-2020 5:12am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

Resentment is a sign of alcoholism. Saying that from personal experience, not to be smart.

https://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/new-to-aa/is-aa-for-you.254.html

Central Services · 13-06-2020 5:16am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

Your story is coming apart at the seams.

If you were serious you would have posted in Personal Issues forum.

Actually if you genuinely had a problem you would speak to a real human. Which is all that might help, counselling, 12 step program an so on.

If you have a slight problem of self indulgence and indiscipline and have made the late night, intoxicated decision to engage After Hours then I welcome you into our warm and reassuring embrace and remind you that we are all going to die and don't take anything too seriously.

Woodsie1 · 13-06-2020 5:18am

One_Time wrote: »

Resentment is a sign of alcoholism. Saying that from personal experience, not to be smart.

https://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/new-to-aa/is-aa-for-you.254.html

I dont resent anyine,,,,,but the link you sent is far too bright..it hurts my eyes

Airyfairy12 · 13-06-2020 5:23am

I think theres a difference between being a problem drinker and alcoholism.
If it's effecting relationships, causing personal problems for yourself, you can never just have one drink and drink is having a negative impact in your life in anyway or your using drink as a crutch, you might want to knock it on the head, drink may just not be for you or you might just need to reevaluate your relationship with alcohol. If youre a problem drinker you should be able to do this yourself unassisted and stick to your own rules regarding how often and how much you drink.

Alcoholism is different, someone who has alcoholism cant quit drink without support.

Woodsie1 · 13-06-2020 5:26am

Central Services wrote: »

Your story is coming apart at the seams.

If you were serious you would have posted in Personal Issues forum.

Actually if you genuinely had a problem you would speak to a real human. Which is all that might help, counselling, 12 step program an so on.

If you have a slight problem of self indulgence and indiscipline and have made the late night, intoxicated decision to engage After Hours then I welcome you into our warm and reassuring embrace and remind you that we are all going to die and don't take anything too seriously.

Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help

Central Services · 13-06-2020 5:34am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help

Give yourself a target.

Three days, No Booze.

Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.

After that add a week. And so on. If you want to live a healthy lifestyle you can. Look at some David Goggins videos on youtube if you need a verbal cop the fcuk on.

13-06-2020 5:36am

To give the Boards answer, if you’ve been inside a pub or looked directly at a can more than twice then you’re a raging alcoholic and have ruined the lives of everyone you know.

Woodsie1 · 13-06-2020 5:55am

Central Services wrote: »

Give yourself a target.

Three days, No Booze.

Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.

After that add a week. And so on. If you want to live a healthy lifestyle you can. Look at some David Goggins videos on youtube if you need a verbal cop the fcuk on.

your a decentskin even if ya are re reg lol....adio amigos .....fcuking aftr hours cheers for the advice...

suicide_circus · 13-06-2020 8:53am

Central Services wrote: »

Give yourself a target.

Three days, No Booze.

Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.

Professor Will Power?

https://www.blackrockeyelaser.ie/our-team/prof-william-power

Bobblehats · 13-06-2020 9:56am

Never had a problem with it.

Bobblehats · 13-06-2020 10:07am

Woodsie1 wrote: »

What makes someone an alcoholic?

Asking for a friemd:o

I love getting pissed....think i went too far tonight:eek:

You’re alright friend. Until you find yourself skulking down the lane with a big bag of the rosie’s dew

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 10:17am

anyone who needs a drink every day in an alcoholic in my eyes.

Randy Archer · 13-06-2020 1:03pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

You realise that this is after hours ? Don’t expect serious discussion here .

Alco ? Weak and undisciplined people ,who can not control themselves

Strumms · 13-06-2020 1:18pm

Alcoholism is a disease.

It’s when not you as a ‘person’ likes drinking a lot, likes drinking regularly, Getting pissed...it’s when your body and brain is saying, YOU NEED A DRINK.

the beer revolu · 13-06-2020 1:26pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

anyone who needs a drink every day in an alcoholic in my eyes.

What about someone who merely has a drink every day?

Randy Archer · 13-06-2020 1:28pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

What about someone who merely has a drink every day?

1 drink ? In Ireland ? That’s weird , you talking loco

Nah, seriously, though, it depends . What harm would it be cracking open a can or a glass of wine After a hard days work ? Waistline might not thank ya for it but meh, many of us smoke too ...

endacl · 13-06-2020 1:31pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help

Cop the fcuk on.

13-06-2020 1:44pm

Just a bad dose of the fear.

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 1:45pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

What about someone who merely has a drink every day?

most alcoholics I know wouldn't be able to leave it at 1 drink a day, but yeah I would call someone who HAS to have 1 drink a day an alcoholic.

the beer revolu · 13-06-2020 4:14pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

most alcoholics I know wouldn't be able to leave it at 1 drink a day, but yeah I would call someone who HAS to have 1 drink a day an alcoholic.

What does that even mean?
Define "has to".
Is it different from "wants to"?
Or how about "would like to"?

pgj2015 · 13-06-2020 4:20pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

What does that even mean?
Define "has to".
Is it different from "wants to"?
Or how about "would like to"?

has to = the people who have to have a drink or they start shaking etc

Truthvader · 13-06-2020 4:47pm

If drink is repeatedly generating problems at work at home and socially the you are a problem drinker. If you know this but cant stop you are an alcoholic

Mimon · 27-01-2021 11:04am

Truthvader wrote: »

If drink is repeatedly generating problems at work at home and socially the you are a problem drinker. If you know this but cant stop you are an alcoholic

Would you include someone who's drinking only causes problems for themselves as a problem drinker?

A friend drinks probably 9 days out of 10. They have got worse since before Christmas. Proably have had 3 days not drinking since the start of December.

They generally don't get aggressive but the physical toll will definitely catch up with them at some stage. Drinking in front of their children so much couldn't be good either.

R.F. · 27-01-2021 11:21am

Central Services wrote: »

What seems to be the officer, problem?

One of my favourite lines from South Park. Classic

McGinniesta · 27-01-2021 11:53am

Randy Archer wrote: »

You realise that this is after hours ? Don’t expect serious discussion here .

Alco ? Weak and undisciplined people ,who can not control themselves

Wouldn't life be wonderful if everything was so simple?

As if you are going to wake up one day with some will power and self control that will magically make your alcoholism disappear. Forget the fact that addiction is usually far more complex than this.

If this were the case then nobody in life would ever have any problems ever. They'd just gain some self control and their problems would just vanish. Sounds like nonsense to me.

27-01-2021 11:55am

Mimon wrote: »

Would you include someone who's drinking only causes problems for themselves as a problem drinker?

A friend drinks probably 9 days out of 10. They have got worse since before Christmas. Proably have had 3 days not drinking since the start of December.

They generally don't get aggressive but the physical toll will definitely catch up with them at some stage. Drinking in front of their children so much couldn't be good either.

Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.

punisher5112 · 27-01-2021 11:56am

8 months to reply, must have been some session

jimgoose · 27-01-2021 12:01pm

Can I just point out that "jimgoose and the Usual Internet ****" would be an excellent name for an Appalachian electrofunk outfit?

Stevieluvsye · 27-01-2021 12:12pm

Layne Wide Blackboard wrote: »

Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.

LOL

In fairness to your point, i don't think it's right that any parent should be drunk or in the process of getting drunk in front of young kids.

It's all too common that section 34's are handed out in this country for this very reason

McGinniesta · 27-01-2021 12:16pm

Layne Wide Blackboard wrote: »

Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.

The first problem with that is how do you catch someone who does it at home?

And where do you draw the line? Do you do the same thing with smokers? I've had serious weight problems in the past do you do it with people who are obese or have an unhealthy relationship with food?

Oink · 27-01-2021 12:37pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

The first problem with that is how do you catch someone who does it at home?

And where do you draw the line? Do you do the same thing with smokers? I've had serious weight problems in the past do you do it with people who are obese or have an unhealthy relationship with food?

Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
It’s ridiculous to compare the two.

Stevieluvsye · 27-01-2021 12:48pm

Oink wrote: »

Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
It’s ridiculous to compare the two.

I doubt the poster meant any harm in their post but in all serousness the majority of this country are not aware of some of the things that go on in some households with regards child abuse because of alcohol

Some of the stories would make you feel physically sick

Mimon · 27-01-2021 12:53pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Wouldn't life be wonderful if everything was so simple?

As if you are going to wake up one day with some will power and self control that will magically make your alcoholism disappear. Forget the fact that addiction is usually far more complex than this.

If this were the case then nobody in life would ever have any problems ever. They'd just gain some self control and their problems would just vanish. Sounds like nonsense to me.

Woosh :pac:

Mimon · 27-01-2021 12:58pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I doubt the poster meant any harm in their post but in all serousness the majority of this country are not aware of some of the things that go on in some households with regards child abuse because of alcohol

Some of the stories would make you feel physically sick

The person I'm talking to would not be in any way abusive to their children after drink. They would talk drunken ****e and get and be all lovey dovey with them alright. Not abuse but definitely not a good example to set for them.

Mango Joe · 27-01-2021 1:01pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

The main problem with alcoholics is their inevitable trait of being an utter sh|t to everyone unfortunate enough to be around them.

27-01-2021 1:04pm

Oink wrote: »

Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
It’s ridiculous to compare the two.

I was that child for all my childhood. Used to go into school so tired as I would have been up as late as 1am/2am waiting for an alcoholic parent to come home scared that they would hurt themselves or someone else as they drove. My anxiety at the time was through the roof as a kid.

Straight to the pub after work most evenings and I would hear the car coming down the road and wait for the inevitable smash into the tree. One night the car even went under a truck. Luckily they survived but didn't learn.

When I got big enough as a teen I lost the plot and put my father up against the wall over it.

It was absolutely terrifying. A very tough way to grow up.

Stevieluvsye · 27-01-2021 1:04pm

Mango Joe wrote: »

The main problem with alcoholics is their inevitable trait of being an utter sh|t to everyone unfortunate enough to be around them.

You're way off the mark.

Alcoholics have their own agenda.

bnt · 27-01-2021 1:34pm

An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink. It doesn’t matter how you rationalise it e.g. I’ve heard “I only need it to help me sleep” from a friend. He can’t remember when he last tried sleeping without drinks first.

Fog Hat · 27-01-2021 1:56pm

bnt wrote: »

An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink. It doesn’t matter how you rationalise it e.g. I’ve heard “I only need it to help me sleep” from a friend. He can’t remember when he last tried sleeping without drinks first.

With my friend it's 'once I find a good woman I'll stop'. Why doesn't he just stop now?

27-01-2021 2:14pm

Fog Hat wrote: »

With my friend it's 'once I find a good woman I'll stop'. Why doesn't he just stop now?

It's probably the reason he can't find a good woman. He might if he stops, eats healthy and does some exercise and becomes more positive.

Fog Hat · 27-01-2021 2:17pm

Layne Wide Blackboard wrote: »

It's probably the reason he can't find a good woman. He might if he stops, eats healthy and does some exercise and becomes more positive.

His logic is, if he finds a woman he'll have to stop drinking in order to keep her around.

F*cking rummy. I use to feel sorry for him, now I'm just starting to hate him for his selfishness and stupidity.

PommieBast · 27-01-2021 2:23pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

What makes someone an alcoholic?

Medics tell me actual alcoholics are those who bury bottles of vodka in the back garden because they are in denial.

Pauliedragon · 27-01-2021 10:38pm

As someone who has had alcohol issues in the past and also worked in the industry for a long time my own opinion is an alcoholic is somebody who needs a drink to feel normal as opposed to someone who likes to enjoy booze even if it's overboard sometimes.

HansKroenke · 27-01-2021 10:47pm

Open the pubs.

Jim Root · 28-01-2021 8:27pm

If your posting on the internet to solicit opinions your consciously worried about it. This is a good step.

Capt'n Midnight · 29-01-2021 12:15am

bnt wrote: »

An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink.

Technically true as going cold turkey when your body is used to coping with lots of ethanol can be very bad.

Alcoholism

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