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Alcoholism

  • 13-06-2020 5:00am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    What makes someone an alcoholic?

    Asking for a friemd:o

    I love getting pissed....think i went too far tonight:eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Central Services


    What seems to be the officer, problem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    What seems to be the officer, problem?

    Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life


  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭One_Time


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life


    Resentment is a sign of alcoholism. Saying that from personal experience, not to be smart.

    https://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/new-to-aa/is-aa-for-you.254.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Central Services


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

    Your story is coming apart at the seams.

    If you were serious you would have posted in Personal Issues forum.

    Actually if you genuinely had a problem you would speak to a real human. Which is all that might help, counselling, 12 step program an so on.

    If you have a slight problem of self indulgence and indiscipline and have made the late night, intoxicated decision to engage After Hours then I welcome you into our warm and reassuring embrace and remind you that we are all going to die and don't take anything too seriously. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    One_Time wrote: »
    Resentment is a sign of alcoholism. Saying that from personal experience, not to be smart.

    https://www.alcoholicsanonymous.ie/new-to-aa/is-aa-for-you.254.html

    I dont resent anyine,,,,,but the link you sent is far too bright..it hurts my eyes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    I think theres a difference between being a problem drinker and alcoholism.
    If it's effecting relationships, causing personal problems for yourself, you can never just have one drink and drink is having a negative impact in your life in anyway or your using drink as a crutch, you might want to knock it on the head, drink may just not be for you or you might just need to reevaluate your relationship with alcohol. If youre a problem drinker you should be able to do this yourself unassisted and stick to your own rules regarding how often and how much you drink.

    Alcoholism is different, someone who has alcoholism cant quit drink without support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Your story is coming apart at the seams.

    If you were serious you would have posted in Personal Issues forum.

    Actually if you genuinely had a problem you would speak to a real human. Which is all that might help, counselling, 12 step program an so on.

    If you have a slight problem of self indulgence and indiscipline and have made the late night, intoxicated decision to engage After Hours then I welcome you into our warm and reassuring embrace and remind you that we are all going to die and don't take anything too seriously. ;)

    Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Central Services


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help


    Give yourself a target.

    Three days, No Booze.

    Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.


    After that add a week. And so on. If you want to live a healthy lifestyle you can. Look at some David Goggins videos on youtube if you need a verbal cop the fcuk on.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To give the Boards answer, if you’ve been inside a pub or looked directly at a can more than twice then you’re a raging alcoholic and have ruined the lives of everyone you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Give yourself a target.

    Three days, No Booze.

    Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.


    After that add a week. And so on. If you want to live a healthy lifestyle you can. Look at some David Goggins videos on youtube if you need a verbal cop the fcuk on.

    your a decentskin even if ya are re reg lol....adio amigos .....fcuking aftr hours cheers for the advice...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Give yourself a target.

    Three days, No Booze.

    Direct your Will Power to that objective and you will do it.

    Professor Will Power?

    https://www.blackrockeyelaser.ie/our-team/prof-william-power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Never had a problem with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    What makes someone an alcoholic?

    Asking for a friemd:o

    I love getting pissed....think i went too far tonight:eek:

    You’re alright friend. Until you find yourself skulking down the lane with a big bag of the rosie’s dew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    anyone who needs a drink every day in an alcoholic in my eyes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

    You realise that this is after hours ? Don’t expect serious discussion here .

    Alco ? Weak and undisciplined people ,who can not control themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,789 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Alcoholism is a disease.

    It’s when not you as a ‘person’ likes drinking a lot, likes drinking regularly, Getting pissed...it’s when your body and brain is saying, YOU NEED A DRINK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    anyone who needs a drink every day in an alcoholic in my eyes.

    What about someone who merely has a drink every day?


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    What about someone who merely has a drink every day?

    1 drink ? In Ireland ? That’s weird , you talking loco

    Nah, seriously, though, it depends . What harm would it be cracking open a can or a glass of wine After a hard days work ? Waistline might not thank ya for it but meh, many of us smoke too ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,352 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Cheeers....personal issues is to straight laced foe me...i like th normaliy of AH....i dont wamt a deir dierdre response i want someone to tell tell me cop the fcuk on or go get help

    Cop the fcuk on.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just a bad dose of the fear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    What about someone who merely has a drink every day?



    most alcoholics I know wouldn't be able to leave it at 1 drink a day, but yeah I would call someone who HAS to have 1 drink a day an alcoholic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    most alcoholics I know wouldn't be able to leave it at 1 drink a day, but yeah I would call someone who HAS to have 1 drink a day an alcoholic.

    What does that even mean?
    Define "has to".
    Is it different from "wants to"?
    Or how about "would like to"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    What does that even mean?
    Define "has to".
    Is it different from "wants to"?
    Or how about "would like to"?



    has to = the people who have to have a drink or they start shaking etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    If drink is repeatedly generating problems at work at home and socially the you are a problem drinker. If you know this but cant stop you are an alcoholic


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Truthvader wrote: »
    If drink is repeatedly generating problems at work at home and socially the you are a problem drinker. If you know this but cant stop you are an alcoholic

    Would you include someone who's drinking only causes problems for themselves as a problem drinker?

    A friend drinks probably 9 days out of 10. They have got worse since before Christmas. Proably have had 3 days not drinking since the start of December.

    They generally don't get aggressive but the physical toll will definitely catch up with them at some stage. Drinking in front of their children so much couldn't be good either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭R.F.


    What seems to be the officer, problem?

    One of my favourite lines from South Park. Classic :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    You realise that this is after hours ? Don’t expect serious discussion here .

    Alco ? Weak and undisciplined people ,who can not control themselves

    Wouldn't life be wonderful if everything was so simple?

    As if you are going to wake up one day with some will power and self control that will magically make your alcoholism disappear. Forget the fact that addiction is usually far more complex than this.

    If this were the case then nobody in life would ever have any problems ever. They'd just gain some self control and their problems would just vanish. Sounds like nonsense to me.




  • Mimon wrote: »
    Would you include someone who's drinking only causes problems for themselves as a problem drinker?

    A friend drinks probably 9 days out of 10. They have got worse since before Christmas. Proably have had 3 days not drinking since the start of December.

    They generally don't get aggressive but the physical toll will definitely catch up with them at some stage. Drinking in front of their children so much couldn't be good either.

    Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

    These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

    Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    8 months to reply, must have been some session


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Can I just point out that "jimgoose and the Usual Internet ****" would be an excellent name for an Appalachian electrofunk outfit?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

    These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

    Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.

    LOL

    In fairness to your point, i don't think it's right that any parent should be drunk or in the process of getting drunk in front of young kids.

    It's all too common that section 34's are handed out in this country for this very reason


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    Drinking heavily/getting drunk on front of your children should be a criminal offence in my opinion.

    These things have a life long psychological impact and can destroy that child's adult life. It certainly changes the person that they should be if they had grown up in a normal household.

    Personally, I think there is way to little focus on this.

    The first problem with that is how do you catch someone who does it at home?

    And where do you draw the line? Do you do the same thing with smokers? I've had serious weight problems in the past do you do it with people who are obese or have an unhealthy relationship with food?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    The first problem with that is how do you catch someone who does it at home?

    And where do you draw the line? Do you do the same thing with smokers? I've had serious weight problems in the past do you do it with people who are obese or have an unhealthy relationship with food?


    Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
    I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
    It’s ridiculous to compare the two.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Oink wrote: »
    Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
    I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
    It’s ridiculous to compare the two.

    I doubt the poster meant any harm in their post but in all serousness the majority of this country are not aware of some of the things that go on in some households with regards child abuse because of alcohol

    Some of the stories would make you feel physically sick


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Wouldn't life be wonderful if everything was so simple?

    As if you are going to wake up one day with some will power and self control that will magically make your alcoholism disappear. Forget the fact that addiction is usually far more complex than this.

    If this were the case then nobody in life would ever have any problems ever. They'd just gain some self control and their problems would just vanish. Sounds like nonsense to me.

    Woosh :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    I doubt the poster meant any harm in their post but in all serousness the majority of this country are not aware of some of the things that go on in some households with regards child abuse because of alcohol

    Some of the stories would make you feel physically sick

    The person I'm talking to would not be in any way abusive to their children after drink. They would talk drunken ****e and get and be all lovey dovey with them alright. Not abuse but definitely not a good example to set for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Mango Joe


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Usual internet wanker....hope you get lots of thanks to make youfeel beter about your sad life

    The main problem with alcoholics is their inevitable trait of being an utter sh|t to everyone unfortunate enough to be around them.




  • Oink wrote: »
    Where do you draw the line? Are you effin serious?
    I’ve never seen a child cry in fear because their parent is having an obese moment. But I HAVE seen a child almost physically sick with fear because of a drunk parent. If you had you wouldn’t be so flippant about it.
    It’s ridiculous to compare the two.

    I was that child for all my childhood. Used to go into school so tired as I would have been up as late as 1am/2am waiting for an alcoholic parent to come home scared that they would hurt themselves or someone else as they drove. My anxiety at the time was through the roof as a kid.

    Straight to the pub after work most evenings and I would hear the car coming down the road and wait for the inevitable smash into the tree. One night the car even went under a truck. Luckily they survived but didn't learn.

    When I got big enough as a teen I lost the plot and put my father up against the wall over it.

    It was absolutely terrifying. A very tough way to grow up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Mango Joe wrote: »
    The main problem with alcoholics is their inevitable trait of being an utter sh|t to everyone unfortunate enough to be around them.

    You're way off the mark.

    Alcoholics have their own agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink. It doesn’t matter how you rationalise it e.g. I’ve heard “I only need it to help me sleep” from a friend. He can’t remember when he last tried sleeping without drinks first.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12 Fog Hat


    bnt wrote: »
    An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink. It doesn’t matter how you rationalise it e.g. I’ve heard “I only need it to help me sleep” from a friend. He can’t remember when he last tried sleeping without drinks first.

    With my friend it's 'once I find a good woman I'll stop'. Why doesn't he just stop now?




  • Fog Hat wrote: »
    With my friend it's 'once I find a good woman I'll stop'. Why doesn't he just stop now?

    It's probably the reason he can't find a good woman. He might if he stops, eats healthy and does some exercise and becomes more positive.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12 Fog Hat


    It's probably the reason he can't find a good woman. He might if he stops, eats healthy and does some exercise and becomes more positive.

    His logic is, if he finds a woman he'll have to stop drinking in order to keep her around.

    F*cking rummy. I use to feel sorry for him, now I'm just starting to hate him for his selfishness and stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    What makes someone an alcoholic?
    Medics tell me actual alcoholics are those who bury bottles of vodka in the back garden because they are in denial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    As someone who has had alcohol issues in the past and also worked in the industry for a long time my own opinion is an alcoholic is somebody who needs a drink to feel normal as opposed to someone who likes to enjoy booze even if it's overboard sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭HansKroenke


    Open the pubs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    If your posting on the internet to solicit opinions your consciously worried about it. This is a good step.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    bnt wrote: »
    An alcoholic is someone who can’t not drink.
    Technically true as going cold turkey when your body is used to coping with lots of ethanol can be very bad.


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