Liberals who aren't liberal

20Cent · 22-12-2018 10:31am

Only governments can censor.
If a private company doesn't want your content because it hurts their brand thats marketing and capitalism not censorship.

Bobtheman · 23-12-2018 1:50pm

Interesting piece on me too movement. In Irish edition Sunday times. Back to1973.
Basically a lot of firms no longer hiring women for fear of being accused of harrasment.
I think the initial movement had it's heart in the right place even if Hollywood stars in black dresses with tits hanging out made a bit of a joke of it.
However the continuing dumping of unsubstantiated allegations has damaged it. Natural justice thrown out the window. False allegations have been found to have been made
Liberals just as much as conservatives love jumping on a bandwagon. Especially when they feel they have the whip hand. It's a lynch mob mentality

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 1:59pm

20Cent wrote: »

Only governments can censor.
If a private company doesn't want your content because it hurts their brand thats marketing and capitalism not censorship.

Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 2:00pm

QuintusFabius wrote: »

Jesus these days anyone slightly to the right of Stalin is a bigot.

Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it

batgoat · 23-12-2018 2:04pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.

Hardly co-opting libertarianism. If a website doesn't want to host content. They're not obliged and I've never heard anyone argue otherwise.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2018 2:11pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Funny how Leftists are now trying to co-opt libertarianism with their own take on it when it suits their agenda to censor the right.

DS86DS wrote: »

Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it

It's like Cards Against Humanity with you. "The Leftists are...." - followed by random surreal comment pulled out of a box.

"The leftists are... a windmull full of dead babies."

Sonics2k · 23-12-2018 2:15pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Today's Leftists are aching for the kind of power that Stalin had. Any means to silence their opponents and they will do it

Have you any proof of that claim whatsoever?

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 2:15pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's like Cards Against Humanity with you. "The Leftists are...." - followed by random surreal comment pulled out of a box.

"The leftists are... a windmull full of dead babies."

Whatever.

Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs

engiweirdo · 23-12-2018 2:17pm

The thing is though, Right and Left are economic poles not social, relating purely to ownership of means of production/wealth. Parties proclaiming to be "left" blindly supporting something like uncontrolled immigration/open borders I find bizarre given that such policies favour only the owners of capital, leading to wage deflation via increased competition etc. A very strange philosophy. No one knows what they are anymore.

rossie1977 · 23-12-2018 2:17pm

Define liberal.

In the states today anyone left of Ted Cruz is called a liberal. We have people here using the words communist, socialist and liberal hand in hand as if they describe same thing

PopePalpatine · 23-12-2018 2:22pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

Define liberal.

In the states today anyone left of Ted Cruz is called a liberal. We have people here using the words communist, socialist and liberal hand in hand as if they describe same thing

Nah brah, you just need to watch this 4 hour-long video and get redsuppositoried, brah.

batgoat · 23-12-2018 2:23pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Whatever.

Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs

He's a great manipulator who subscribes to crap like white genocide conspiracies. Easily manipulated.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2018 2:26pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Whatever.

Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

My point entirely:

"A leftist is.... not what this random bloke on Youtube thinks, because I can't explain."

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 2:31pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

My point entirely:

"A leftist is.... not what this random bloke on Youtube thinks, because I can't explain."

Stefan Molyneaux is one of the predominant Libertarian and Conservative speakers on YouTube, not just some random bloke.

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2018 2:34pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux is one of the predominant Libertarian and Conservative speakers on YouTube, not just some random bloke.

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Did you even bother to respond to my claim?

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 2:36pm

Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

sk8erboii · 23-12-2018 2:38pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

‘Damn those liberals really hate free speech! Now let me post it on youtube.’

paw patrol · 23-12-2018 2:41pm

My number 1 gripe is the way they go bananas when somebody isn't up to date on "the rule" and using the wrong language turns you into a pariah.
Very 1984.

In a funny way they are the catholic church they profess to hate

You should laugh and say it's all Americanisms on the internet...but it's an infection.
Our recent abortion law was changed from pregnant women to pregnant person. The actual law of the land is now fully of this sh1te, tax money wasted on this

sk8erboii · 23-12-2018 2:42pm

paw patrol wrote: »

My number 1 gripe is the way they go bananas when somebody isn't up to date on "the rule" and using the wrong language turns you into a pariah.
Very 1984.

In a funny way they are the catholic church they profess to hate

You should laugh and say it's all Americanisms on the internet...but it's an infection.
Our recent abortion law was changed from pregnant women to pregnant person. The actual law of the land is now fully of this sh1te, tax money wasted on this

‘Wtf? Those liberals want me to treat people respectfully regardless of race or nationality? Theyre LITERALLY WORSE THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’

???

DS86DS · 23-12-2018 2:52pm

Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw

Brian? · 23-12-2018 2:52pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

You need to recalibrate your hate sensors. One minute you're giving out about liberals then leftists, which is it? This Stefan Molyneaux person is a libertarian and a conservative, which is it.

If you're going to throw around terms, you should probably learn what they mean.

paw patrol · 23-12-2018 2:57pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘Wtf? Those liberals want me to treat people restfully regardless of race or nationality? Theyre LITERALLY WORSE THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’

???

if that's your take on what I wrote , debating with you is a lost cause

Brian? · 23-12-2018 2:59pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw

You can't speak for yourself?

Mr. CooL ICE · 23-12-2018 3:07pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Whatever.

Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux on why Liberals hate free speech.

https://youtu.be/nsvgTHcLKXs

DS86DS wrote: »

Stefan Molyneaux conversation with a Communist.

https://youtu.be/1TgdLkGwbTw

Mod: Don't post in this thread again.

Reason: posting relentlessly posting videos and contributing nothing of substance to the thread other than vague generalisations.

Sonics2k · 23-12-2018 3:07pm

Brian? wrote: »

You can't speak for yourself?

I think it's very clear at this point that the poster can't actually post their own thoughts, instead resorting to soundbites and youtube links.

I'm no fan of having alternative views censored, but they can at least provide actual debate like some posters of the past did, before they ran off to their circle jerk forum on Voat.

sk8erboii · 23-12-2018 3:08pm

Brian? wrote: »

You can't speak for yourself?

LOL

Nah we’re just too stupid to comprehend these free thinking bunch

RWCNT · 23-12-2018 3:12pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Whatever.

Let's listen to what an actual long time Libertarian has to say on the issue and not left wing mouthpieces revelling in the silencing of their opponents.

And yes, Stefan Molyneaux is an actual intelligent long time Libertarian who understands classical economics and political philosophy unlike some of the brain dead Leftists beating about the bush

https://youtu.be/44uOmiS7XPs

Mate, please. Read some well regarded philosophy and political theory books instead. These YouTube talking men are almost all completely full of **** and you're doing yourself a massive disservice by taking them at their word. They are snake oil salesmen and you are becoming stupider as a result of ingesting their content.

nthclare · 23-12-2018 3:18pm

I think Christopher Hitches didn't like Liberals or Femminists.

He suggested eventually we'll be so silenced that we won't be able to say anything, unless it's in accordance to the liberal agenda.

Liberals seem to have an agenda on the sexualisation of society.

But then can't tollerate good old fashioned flirting or a wolfwhistle.

What a contradiction, I think it's gone mad Ted.

Sometime in the future you'll have a group starting up of men and women who'll be recovering femminists or liberals.

Because I kicked that to the kirb maybe three years ago, I realised living like one of those new age hippies or so called liberal guy's wasn't productive.

Always looking to be offended, getting anxiety and feeling like a victim.....

Not anymore, a man is a man and a woman's a woman.

Simple as.

Odhinn · 23-12-2018 3:20pm

nthclare wrote: »

I think Christopher Hitches didn't like Liberals or Femminists.

He suggested eventually we'll be so silenced that we won't be able to say anything, unless it's in accordance to the liberal agenda.

Liberals seem to have an agenda on the sexualisation of society.

But then can't tollerate good old fashioned flirting or a wolfwhistle.

What a contradiction, I think it's gone mad Ted.

Sometime in the future you'll have a group starting up of men and women who'll be recovering femminists or liberals.

Because I kicked that to the kirb maybe three years ago, I realised living like one of those new age hippies or so called liberal guy's wasn't productive.

Always looking to be offended, getting anxiety and feeling like a victim.....

Not anymore, a man is a man and a woman's a woman.

Simple as.

Wtf is that when its at home?

20Cent · 23-12-2018 3:21pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘Damn those liberals really hate free speech! Now let me post it on youtube.’

Yeah it's so funny complaining about being censored on a platform hosting his content and in interviews, tv etc. poor fella.
Gema O'Doherty tweeted this video has been banned and included a link to the video in it!

Advertisers don't want their ads appearing on racist white supremacist videos it's as simple as that.

23-12-2018 3:24pm

Was there a warning to not post links before he was banned from the thread? He didn't insult anyone and that's usually the only thing that results in an instant action.

nthclare · 23-12-2018 3:26pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Wtf is that when its at home?

It's a few words put together.

Odhinn · 23-12-2018 3:28pm

nthclare wrote: »

It's a few words put together.

iberals seem to have an agenda on the sexualisation of society

What does that mean or refer to?

RWCNT · 23-12-2018 3:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was there a warning to not post links before he was banned from the thread? He didn't insult anyone and that's usually the only thing that results in an instant action.

The assault on freeze peach from the radical liberal communist left continues

20Cent · 23-12-2018 3:34pm

Odhinn wrote: »

What does that mean or refer to?

Dunno but sounds good!
Sexy times ahead!!

Peter Denham · 23-12-2018 3:39pm

The extreme left and extreme right are both just hateful and irrational groups. I try to avoid interactions with both.

nthclare · 23-12-2018 3:45pm

Odhinn wrote: »

What does that mean or refer to?

It would be a long drawn out debate if we were to get into it, it would just go round in circles.

We'll leave it there, you can draw your own conclusion.

I'm just getting a point across.

20Cent · 23-12-2018 3:46pm

I've a theory that a lot of what irks freeze peach hysteria comes from other right wingers trolling and winding them up.

For example the recent HSE are banning staff from calling patients love or by nicknames. All that came from right wing shock jocks who can't read a report properly. Same with Fairy Tale of New York and It's cold outside. There was another video of a woman in Russia pouring bleach on mens crotches if they were man spreading. Video was totally setup but used as if all "liberals" are for it.

Social media amplifies these views so it seems like there is some large group of people who want to ban words etc. Most of the amplification comes from other right wingers who want to portray liberals as anti free speech and irrational just to big up their own views.

Odhinn · 23-12-2018 3:47pm

nthclare wrote: »

It would be a long drawn out debate if we were to get into it, it would just go round in circles.

We'll leave it there, you can draw your own conclusion.

I'm just getting a point across.

You aren't getting any point across when nobody (or not everyone) knows what you're talking about. Again - would you please explain what you mean?

nthclare · 23-12-2018 4:02pm

Simple as, some Liberals love pushing their protest to the limit by dressing up seductivly to get their point across, but yet they're insulted when someone blow's a wolf whistle or something similar.

Like gay pride, men marching around in bondage gear in public just to get a point across, but yet if someone slagged one off or mentioned the F word people would get very offended...

Do word's speak louder than actions, or actions speak louder than words ?

Odhinn · 23-12-2018 4:08pm

nthclare wrote: »

Simple as, some Liberals love pushing their protest to the limit by dressing up seductivly to get their point across, but yet they're insulted when someone blow's a wolf whistle or something similar.

Yep, I remember the amount of water protesters in lycra and bondage gear strutting their stuff.

nthclare · 23-12-2018 4:23pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Yep, I remember the amount of water protesters in lycra and bondage gear strutting their stuff.

Seriously, probably into water sports...

Who won ?

Brian? · 23-12-2018 4:46pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

I think it's very clear at this point that the poster can't actually post their own thoughts, instead resorting to soundbites and youtube links.

I'm no fan of having alternative views censored, but they can at least provide actual debate like some posters of the past did, before they ran off to their circle jerk forum on Voat.

Voat?

Brian? · 23-12-2018 4:47pm

Peter Denham wrote: »

The extreme left and extreme right are both just hateful and irrational groups. I try to avoid interactions with both.

No they aren't.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2018 5:04pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was there a warning to not post links before he was banned from the thread? He didn't insult anyone and that's usually the only thing that results in an instant action.

Links without personal input will do it as well, as far as I know.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-12-2018 5:07pm

Brian? wrote: »

No they aren't.

I'd actually agree with him on that one. They're more about abusing people who stunt agree when him. But only the extremists, though.

ahnowbrowncow · 23-12-2018 5:49pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was there a warning to not post links before he was banned from the thread? He didn't insult anyone and that's usually the only thing that results in an instant action.

Banned for "contributing nothing of substance to the thread other than vague generalisations."

If they were to apply this consistently, these threads wouldn't get past the first page.

Grayson · 23-12-2018 6:08pm

Brian? wrote: »

Voat?

Reddit banned a load of far right subreddits. So someone created a reddit type site just for them called voat.

Grayson · 23-12-2018 6:13pm

sk8erboii wrote: »

‘Damn those liberals really hate free speech! Now let me post it on youtube.’

I watched a couple of those video's. The guys a good rhetorical speaker. The problem is that his discussions are all based on ideas that are taken for granted without establishing them. He'll even jump from a->c without establishing what b is. It's pure sophistry but it's extremely well presented. I can see why a right winger would like him.

Brian? · 23-12-2018 7:20pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I'd actually agree with him on that one. They're more about abusing people who stunt agree when him. But only the extremists, though.

No, they're not.

The purple haired so called SJWs are not the extreme left. They are a mad off shoot of the left. The extreme left support free speech as am absolute right.

Don't let the anti PC nonsense redefine what extreme left and right are. Extreme right are fascists, extreme left can be anarchists, libertarian socialists on old school Leninist.

Liberals who aren't liberal

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