Coronavirus and the effect on Public transport

Better Than Christ · 04-04-2020 3:36pm

I'm starting to pick and choose who I stop for. I drive past groups of kids, and also anyone who I regularly see hanging around on the streets and is likely to be intoxicated. I'm not prepared to police people's behaviour on the bus, or tell them where they can and can't sit, so it makes sense to simply not deal with anyone who I believe is likely to cause an issue.

punisher5112 · 04-04-2020 3:49pm

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I'm starting to pick and choose who I stop for. I drive past groups of kids, and also anyone who I regularly see hanging around on the streets and is likely to be intoxicated. I'm not prepared to police people's behaviour on the bus, or tell them where they can and can't sit, so it makes sense to simply not deal with anyone who I believe is likely to cause an issue.

This is a must but others and you need to do your bit to help yourself and others.....

People are seriously slow in cases and if the seat wasn't there they would still try to sit there....

Control needs to be putting out messages to Driver's on numbers that we can carry and so on...

It's nothing about been a company man or whatever it's about keeping distance and us all safer as the biggest issues are if I want it done safely and right but some others don't this is all I hear back off passengers.....

Get on pay or tag and do so like there was a fire behind you, sit down and keep distance.

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 06-04-2020 8:39pm

This post stinks of BS but maybe one of ye can enlighten the situation.
Gardai surely can't just walk onto a tram and inspect people's phones and cameras, to see if they're breaking a Luas byelaw? It just sounds ridiculous to randomly stop a tram and search passengers phones. Seems like a complete invasion of privacy. Obviously if they were sure some serious crime had been committed, fair enough, but not just random searches..

punisher5112 · 06-04-2020 8:44pm

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

This post stinks of BS but maybe one of ye can enlighten the situation.
Gardai surely can't just walk onto a tram and inspect people's phones and cameras, to see if they're breaking a Luas byelaw? It just sounds ridiculous to randomly stop a tram and search passengers phones. Seems like a complete invasion of privacy. Obviously if they were sure some serious crime had been committed, fair enough, but not just random searches..

Can't see that happening to be honest what they could do though is confiscate if they believe it would have information or footage of a crime.....

db had this exact thing on their site but it was removed, stated you must give prior notice if taking footage and pay a fee of €600 and the bus couldn't be in service.....

Dravokivich · 07-04-2020 1:08am

I think that's more so, for controlling their image rights when someone is looking to film. Not just joe public recording things as it happens.

GT89 · 07-04-2020 1:23am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Can't see that happening to be honest what they could do though is confiscate if they believe it would have information or footage of a crime.....

db had this exact thing on their site but it was removed, stated you must give prior notice if taking footage and pay a fee of €600 and the bus couldn't be in service.....

It is one of those bylaws that cannot possibly be enforced. Food and drink is also banned but no one obeys that either as it cannot be enforced. How the hell is a driver supposed to know if someone is filming or not?

91wx763 · 07-04-2020 10:16am

As someone who deals with the great unwashed travelling pubic, well we are now briefed/trained on how to behave when the greatest form of "attack" nowadays is to start filming you when you are just going about doing your job. When it happens to me I politely inform the cameraperson that my agent will send a bill for £160 a minute for me being star of their video.

Someone has put that comment to bed on that facebook page, seems the gard took offence to being filmed, but the poster is apparently covering their arris/saving face by saying their rights are being violated.

Jamie2k9 · 07-04-2020 3:45pm

IE have a timetable published for Monday which they will not be operating so check by end of week for changes.

thenightman · 07-04-2020 6:40pm

Gardai have no right to access your phone unless they have a warrant obtained from district court to do so. I was a reserve Garda many moons ago and you are not even obliged to unlock the phone for Gardai if they ask. They often try to get those they suspect of drug dealing to unlock their phones when searching them or even when they've arrested someone for having a bit of gear, which the the dealers never ever do in my experience. Guards then seize those phones under proceeds of crime act and get them technically examined, but no way could they do that to random folk on public transport.

That facebook post is absolute BS.

punisher5112 · 07-04-2020 7:06pm

thenightman wrote: »

Gardai have no right to access your phone unless they have a warrant obtained from district court to do so. I was a reserve Garda many moons ago and you are not even obliged to unlock the phone for Gardai if they ask. They often try to get those they suspect of drug dealing to unlock their phones when searching them or even when they've arrested someone for having a bit of gear, which the the dealers never ever do in my experience. Guards then seize those phones under proceeds of crime act and get them technically examined, but no way could they do that to random folk on public transport.

That facebook post is absolute BS.

Obviously someone looking for a reaction....

punisher5112 · 08-04-2020 11:22am

As a passenger I'm having to tell others to back t f off.....

2 junkies getting on I had let 2 on ahead of me, next these 2 run or waddle fast to the door, I'm already getting on and giving space to the others, where do these two end up.... Yes in my shoulder.....

I wasn't surprised or shocked but he and she moved back when I told them to cop the f on.....

I'm sorry I don't tend to curse in uniform but I'm thinking of my family and my safety and unfortunately I have to take this seriously and stand up and say no.....

To all them that are ripping the signs off the seats you can go do one too.... Scum...

Davidth88 · 08-04-2020 11:41am

Terrible news coming out of London about the bus drivers who have died .

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52212143

ITV2 · 08-04-2020 12:03pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

As a passenger I'm having to tell others to back t f off.....

2 junkies getting on I had let 2 on ahead of me, next these 2 run or waddle fast to the door, I'm already getting on and giving space to the others, where do these two end up.... Yes in my shoulder.....

I wasn't surprised or shocked but he and she moved back when I told them to cop the f on.....

I'm sorry I don't tend to curse in uniform but I'm thinking of my family and my safety and unfortunately I have to take this seriously and stand up and say no.....

To all them that are ripping the signs off the seats you can go do one too.... Scum...

Or do as I do.. drive by them, plenty of undesirable on the NCR yesterday.

punisher5112 · 08-04-2020 12:09pm

ITV2 wrote: »

Or do as I do.. drive by them, plenty of undesirable on the NCR yesterday.

No this was me using the bus as a passenger as I was heading to garage, if I see people to be trouble I will not carry....

Funny thing is they all huddled together upstairs and the driver kept telling them to sit apart.....

91wx763 · 08-04-2020 4:37pm

Davidth88 wrote: »

Terrible news coming out of London about the bus drivers who have died .

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52212143

One in Bristol as well. A very nice bloke too. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-52090349

GT89 · 08-04-2020 10:55pm

Seems to be more out and about these last couple of days. I wonder has anyone noticed more using public transport these last couple of days aswell as there definitely seems to be more cars out and about. Also noticed a few buses whilst out walking within the 2km that seemed busier than they were a week ago.

Motherof123 · 08-04-2020 11:00pm

GT89 wrote: »

Seems to be more out and about these last couple of days. I wonder has anyone noticed more using public transport these last couple of days aswell as there definitely seems to be more cars out and about. Also noticed a few buses whilst out walking within the 2km that seemed busier than they were a week ago.

Yeah the bus is a little busier this week than the previous week. So annoying the people seem to sit in the nearest available seat and the whole bus could be empty. And when I try to get off someone is on the bus and usually they should back off and leave me pass but they don't!
People are still not getting the social distance courtesy like back off to leave me pass please coz I have no other way of passing.
I feel sorry for the bus drivers.
They have a lot to deal with.
Two guys got on the bus I was on and pretend coughing saying I just got back from Italy skiing it wasn't funny tbh
They sat right in front of me. Stench of alcohol and it was 11am.

dresden8 · 08-04-2020 11:04pm

cherryghost wrote: »

IDK most buses I've seen whizz past my house has nearly everybody following the layout.

Been on busses twice since the signs went up. twice selfish unknowing stupid bastards sat in marked off spaces. One was persistently coughing. got off the bus. How can you have a reasoned argument with somebody who might kill you. I, apparently am an essential worker. With diabetes.

I would happily let Darwin take them.

And **** handshaking Boris.

dashcamdanny · 09-04-2020 10:27am

dresden8 wrote: »

Been on busses twice since the signs went up. twice selfish unknowing stupid bastards sat in marked off spaces. One was persistently coughing. got off the bus. How can you have a reasoned argument with somebody who might kill you. I, apparently am an essential worker. With diabetes.

I would happily let Darwin take them.

And **** handshaking Boris.

If you see a bus like this, should you call the Garda?

Not even joking. Plenty of them standing around on overtime at the moment... Plenty of check points.

WOuld not be a big thing for them to pull the bus over and have a word with a few peeps.

punisher5112 · 09-04-2020 11:16am

dashcamdanny wrote: »

If you see a bus like this, should you call the Garda?

Not even joking. Plenty of them standing around on overtime at the moment... Plenty of check points.

WOuld not be a big thing for them to pull the bus over and have a word with a few peeps.[/quote

You could and you could also contact the bus company too....

I'm sick of bad bastards coming on spitting on the floor and removing the signs that cost good money, they aren't there for a laugh.....

Having to tell people to move as a driver and then a passenger and also having to tell others to back off...

dashcamdanny · 09-04-2020 11:34am

punisher5112 wrote: »

dashcamdanny wrote: »

If you see a bus like this, should you call the Garda?

Not even joking. Plenty of them standing around on overtime at the moment... Plenty of check points.

WOuld not be a big thing for them to pull the bus over and have a word with a few peeps.[/quote

You could and you could also contact the bus company too....

I'm sick of bad bastards coming on spitting on the floor and removing the signs that cost good money, they aren't there for a laugh.....

Having to tell people to move as a driver and then a passenger and also having to tell others to back off...

I wont be telling anyone to move personally. Just inviting stress and trouble.

Unless they are hanging around the cab that is.

Better Than Christ · 09-04-2020 12:08pm

Twice yesterday, downstairs was 'full' and I politely requested that anyone sitting in a marked seat go upstairs and find one that doesn't have a sign. They ignored me, so I switched the engine off. I was running early anyway, so it suited me.

"We're only going a couple of stops"

"I'm going nowhere until you get out of that seat"

They moved eventually.

Motherof123 · 09-04-2020 12:44pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

I wont be telling anyone to move personally. Just inviting stress and trouble.

Unless they are hanging around the cab that is.

I wouldn't approach anyone either they know exactly what they are doing breaking the guidelines they are basically just ignorant so approaching anyone now who doesn't get it you would only be drawing trouble on yourself. Just move away yourself if at all possible I have gotten off the bus at an early stop and walked the rest of the way I also open the window on the bus to ventilate. I don't drive so I have no choice but to get my essentials using the bus once a week.

Jamie2k9 · 09-04-2020 1:21pm

GT89 wrote: »

Seems to be more out and about these last couple of days. I wonder has anyone noticed more using public transport these last couple of days aswell as there definitely seems to be more cars out and about. Also noticed a few buses whilst out walking within the 2km that seemed busier than they were a week ago.

This was always the risk, lockdown can never be sustained for a long period of time and I suspect Government will have to ease restrictions within 2 weeks or it will be ignored and guards will not be able to enforce.

10-04-2020 12:36am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

This was always the risk, lockdown can never be sustained for a long period of time and I suspect Government will have to ease restrictions within 2 weeks or it will be ignored and guards will not be able to enforce.

Restrictions will not be eased before the middle of May at the earliest as the rate of infection is not falling far enough, fast enough

punisher5112 · 10-04-2020 1:31am

Motherof123 wrote: »

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I wouldn't approach anyone either they know exactly what they are doing breaking the guidelines they are basically just ignorant so approaching anyone now who doesn't get it you would only be drawing trouble on yourself. Just move away yourself if at all possible I have gotten off the bus at an early stop and walked the rest of the way I also open the window on the bus to ventilate. I don't drive so I have no choice but to get my essentials using the bus once a week.

Where did I say I approached anyone, I've had scum bags near burst right through me getting on or off and have no issues telling them to back the fcuk off....

We need to seriously look after ourselves and unfortunately we have to look after those travelling as some are too thick to do anything....

Yes as a passenger I've had to tell people to move and have no issues doing so....

Look at it this way they can day what they want, put in a complaint etc and this will continue like before where bogus ones are put in...

I'm a driver which I've made clear and in no way do I hide this...

If it's not safe of course get off but I'd be making this clear to the driver as ive noticed some don't have a clue or care..... I care and I want to help as best I can and also im thinking of my family and friends ..

18 is max on bus with dual doors.... 6 lower and 12 upper....

Should be a row between each and at the front or rear only one on the full row of 5....

Atlantic Dawn · 10-04-2020 1:47am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Restrictions will not be eased before the middle of May at the earliest as the rate of infection is not falling far enough, fast enough

August weekend would be my next possible window that the restrictions have a chance of being dropped. Failing that October bank holiday weekend they will have no choice but to reduce the restrictions as the economy won't be able to afford the health system.

Motherof123 · 10-04-2020 3:42am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Motherof123 wrote: »

Where did I say I approached anyone, I've had scum bags near burst right through me getting on or off and have no issues telling them to back the fcuk off....

We need to seriously look after ourselves and unfortunately we have to look after those travelling as some are too thick to do anything....

Yes as a passenger I've had to tell people to move and have no issues doing so....

Look at it this way they can day what they want, put in a complaint etc and this will continue like before where bogus ones are put in...

I'm a driver which I've made clear and in no way do I hide this...

If it's not safe of course get off but I'd be making this clear to the driver as ive noticed some don't have a clue or care..... I care and I want to help as best I can and also im thinking of my family and friends ..

18 is max on bus with dual doors.... 6 lower and 12 upper....

Should be a row between each and at the front or rear only one on the full row of 5....

Read back previous messages I didn't say you said I was quoting someone else

dashcamdanny · 10-04-2020 1:58pm

I think the quotes are a bit mixed up there.

Any hoo.

We need signs to inform the skulls to use the middle door. Would take alot of stress outta the days work.

punisher5112 · 10-04-2020 2:09pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I think the quotes are a bit mixed up there.

Any hoo.

We need signs to inform the skulls to use the middle door. Would take alot of stress outta the days work.

Seen few buses with printed off signs... Drivers must have done themselves or got inspector in garage to do....

GT89 · 10-04-2020 2:19pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seen few buses with printed off signs... Drivers must have done themselves or got inspector in garage to do....

I saw an SG with a sign printed off there a few weeks ago

Motherof123 · 10-04-2020 4:58pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I think the quotes are a bit mixed up there.

Any hoo.

We need signs to inform the skulls to use the middle door. Would take alot of stress outta the days work.

Yeah they did. Most of the buses in cork don't have a middle door. But it would be a great idea for the ones that have for exit

ITV2 · 11-04-2020 4:10pm

GT89 wrote: »

I saw an SG with a sign printed off there a few weeks ago

that'd me my handy work GT89

AlekSmart · 11-04-2020 5:46pm

Motherof123 wrote: »

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I wouldn't approach anyone either they know exactly what they are doing breaking the guidelines they are basically just ignorant so approaching anyone now who doesn't get it you would only be drawing trouble on yourself. Just move away yourself if at all possible I have gotten off the bus at an early stop and walked the rest of the way I also open the window on the bus to ventilate. I don't drive so I have no choice but to get my essentials using the bus once a week.

Well spotted Mother.....;)

punisher5112 · 11-04-2020 6:35pm

Today has been the quietest day so far....

Carried hardly anyone but it's been the busiest at shops and parks I've seen so far.....

Some bad backstards out there ripping all the signs off the seats...

ITV2 · 11-04-2020 8:53pm

I suggested they staple them on.. some pax are right cupid stunts.

punisher5112 · 11-04-2020 8:59pm

ITV2 wrote: »

I suggested they staple them on.. some pax are right cupid stunts.

Doesn't matter they will break anything

Losty Dublin · 11-04-2020 11:18pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Today has been the quietest day so far....

Carried hardly anyone but it's been the busiest at shops and parks I've seen so far.....

Some bad backstards out there ripping all the signs off the seats...

I took a trip to the supermarket today. Passed the 15/15B termini and there was 3 buses parked up on each route, and another 15B almost there. Are they making up time that much?

punisher5112 · 12-04-2020 6:32am

Losty Dublin wrote: »

I took a trip to the supermarket today. Passed the 15/15B termini and there was 3 buses parked up on each route, and another 15B almost there. Are they making up time that much?

Yes, no traffic, near all green lights, no passengers at all for most of the route....

During the week was busier though.

Midnight_EG · 12-04-2020 10:13am

Losty Dublin wrote: »

I took a trip to the supermarket today. Passed the 15/15B termini and there was 3 buses parked up on each route, and another 15B almost there. Are they making up time that much?

Yep, even on a Saturday Service. I pulled into Charlestown yesterday at about 5 on a 40 and there was 7 of us waiting to go back out.

devnull · 12-04-2020 11:38am

dashcamdanny wrote: »

We need signs to inform the skulls to use the middle door. Would take alot of stress outta the days work.

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I suggested they staple them on.. some pax are right cupid stunts.

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bk · 13-04-2020 10:16am

I was just thinking that I hope DB and the NTA are recording all these much faster journey times and can use this data to prove just how much of an impact traffic has on public transport.

Imagine if we had no cars at all in the city center, how fast and reliable the bus service would be.

Lord Glentoran · 13-04-2020 10:24am

bk wrote: »

I was just thinking that I hope DB and the NTA are recording all these much faster journey times and can use this data to prove just how much of an impact traffic has on public transport.

Imagine if we had no cars at all in the city centre, how fast and reliable the bus service would be.

Imagine the howls of outrage in Irish media though. Remember how Frank McDonald described the reaction of the private car lobby to the QBC on the Donnybrook Road as the German reaction to the Normandy landings on D-Day. Now ramp that up to eleven.

It would be desirable to change our public transport pattern from double decker buses travelling up to twenty miles to and from the city centre to a rail based one, but that might be a bridge too far for Official Ireland to contemplate, especially on the Navan corridor.

Idbatterim · 13-04-2020 10:35am

Why aren't the buses on a Sunday schedule? There is nobody on them !

devnull · 13-04-2020 10:44am

Idbatterim wrote: »

Why aren't the buses on a Sunday schedule? There is nobody on them !

Dublin Bus are on a Sunday schedule.

Not sure about GAI

bk · 13-04-2020 10:55am

devnull wrote: »

Dublin Bus are on a Sunday schedule.

Not sure about GAI

DB are on a Saturday plus schedule. At least for now.

Idbatterim wrote: »

Why aren't the buses on a Sunday schedule? There is nobody on them !

Because a Sunday schedule doesn't start early enough to get essential workers to work in the morning.

Perhaps a Sunday plus schedule, with early morning departures would make sense.

And actually if that comes to be, then that should become the new normal Sunday schedule when things go back to normal. Lots of folk need to get to work early on a Sunday these days.

devnull · 13-04-2020 10:57am

bk wrote: »

DB are on a Saturday plus schedule. At least for now.

Assumed the poster was talking about today, where DB's site says they are on a Sunday schedule?

Midnight_EG · 13-04-2020 11:42am

devnull wrote: »

Assumed the poster was talking about today, where DB's site says they are on a Sunday schedule?

Because its a Bank Holiday, its always Sunday service.

bk · 13-04-2020 12:02pm

Jeez, I totally forgot that today is a national holiday. I'm working all weekend anyway and the days are starting to blur together!!

Jamie2k9 · 13-04-2020 12:54pm

People Before Profit TD Bríd Smith claims some Bus Éireann drivers plan to strike because of safety concerns.

A spokesman for the National Bus and Rail Union says a strike now would be "utterly inopportune" and says Bus Éireann is sourcing temporary safety shields to address drivers' concerns.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/td-claims-bus-eireann-staff-may-strike-over-coronavirus-safety-concerns-993736.html

Coronavirus and the effect on Public transport

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