What car would you like to see re-introduced to the market?

storker · 13-12-2020 12:58am

Citroen BX 19 GTi

or

Citroen 2CV (my first car)

storker · 13-12-2020 1:01am

Wibbs wrote: »

Problem being with all the safety requirements and other legislation and people being used to more gadgets and stuff in cars the revamped versions of those would struggle to look or feel anything like the originals.

Very true. Still, Fiat seem to have done a good job there with the Bambino, which although not a replica of the original has a very pleasingly retro interior. The did a much better job than the Beetle or Mini in this regard, IMO.

Rrrrrr2 · 13-12-2020 5:23am

storker wrote: »

Very true. Still, Fiat seem to have done a good job there with the Bambino, which although not a replica of the original has a very pleasingly retro interior. The did a much better job than the Beetle or Mini in this regard, IMO.

Was more true to the original than the other two I think but modernised into a chic little car. The beetle was never more than half arsed.
Pity their attempts to make a 500 family are so crap- 500L thingy is an awful idea

Bricriu · 13-12-2020 7:28am

I'd like a robust version of some cars to be available - same engine, gearbox, etc. as the shiny version, but the body to be armoured, especially sides, front and back, and bumpers, so that the slightest tip or bump when reversing, or stone flung from the road by the wheels, wouldn't entail a very expensive trip to the panel-beater.
The purchaser would then have a choice between the shiny version and a robust version.
I think modern cars are made delicately so as to be money-spinners for the manufacturers in terms of new parts. Bodies and paintwork are damaged by the slightest tip.
Modern bumpers are useless and crumple easily and cost a small fortune to replace or panel-beat.
Yes, I know it's said that bumpers are built to take the shock of impact so it doesn't transfer to the occupants of the car, but surely they could be more robust for small impacts.
Also modern wheels are not suitable for bad roads, and we have a lot of those, especially in rural areas.
I'm thinking of the old Land-Rovers, Morris Minors, etc. Their bodies were robust and well made, whatever about the engines not being very reliable, especially in the Land-Rover.
Give us a choice.

Old diesel · 13-12-2020 6:14pm

selectamatic wrote: »

They were a great yoke. Lovely proportions and just about the perfect size. neither too big nor too small.

Handy enough on diesel too. Still 2 of them on the go locally to me both owned for years and well cared for.

We had a short wheel base non turbo.

Did the job, lots of character Vs most things I've experienced since. Miss it.

At the time we bought (1998) it was very competitively priced option Vs the Pajero, Trooper and pick up* options.

We had been doing the ruin the family car doing too much farm stuff thing before that.

Part of the reason the Daihatsu was cheaper was thar the Trooper and Pajero were typically nicer to drive.

But we just wanted it for dirty farm related stuff.

As my father said at the time - we weren't going to be up and down to Dublin in it.

*Hilux at the time

BonnieSituation · 13-12-2020 10:40pm

Bricriu wrote: »

I'd like a robust version of some cars to be available - same engine, gearbox, etc. as the shiny version, but the body to be armoured, especially sides, front and back, and bumpers, so that the slightest tip or bump when reversing, or stone flung from the road by the wheels, wouldn't entail a very expensive trip to the panel-beater.
The purchaser would then have a choice between the shiny version and a robust version.
I think modern cars are made delicately so as to be money-spinners for the manufacturers in terms of new parts. Bodies and paintwork are damaged by the slightest tip.
Modern bumpers are useless and crumple easily and cost a small fortune to replace or panel-beat.
Yes, I know it's said that bumpers are built to take the shock of impact so it doesn't transfer to the occupants of the car, but surely they could be more robust for small impacts.
Also modern wheels are not suitable for bad roads, and we have a lot of those, especially in rural areas.
I'm thinking of the old Land-Rovers, Morris Minors, etc. Their bodies were robust and well made, whatever about the engines not being very reliable, especially in the Land-Rover.
Give us a choice.

You've literally answered it there yourself.

saabsaab · 13-12-2020 10:49pm

Matra Bagheera. Great bang for the buck.

John_Rambo · 13-12-2020 11:30pm

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Their Tipo is a actually a pretty decent car for the price. I’m sure they could make a modern Ritmo out of it

It is actually. From what I can remember the old 2 litre Tipo was an absolute hoot. I know someone that managed to drive one up on to one of those old steel cables that used to support telephone poles.

khalessi · 14-12-2020 12:08am

love to see the 2CV, Morris Minor, VW Eos and the proper VW Bus not camper

Wibbs · 14-12-2020 11:27am

khalessi wrote: »

love to see the 2CV,

While it doesn't look like one the new leccy Citroen Ami is pretty close to the concept of the 2CV.

Wacky and as French as only Citroen can be, cheap as chips to buy and run and as simple as a rock. Both doors are the same part number as are the back and front panels. No carpet or any such fripperies, you could valet the interior with a mop and bucket. Even the windows are simple and exactly like the 2CV. Loads of colour options. And stickers. Who doesn't love stickers.

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OK top whack is 50 kph and range is entirely aimed at urban driving, but for 6000 of your finest yoyos you can't really go wrong. I doubt it could cross a ploughed field carrying a basket of eggs without breaking them, but still.

storker · 14-12-2020 11:29am

Wibbs wrote: »

While it doesn't look like one the new leccy Citroen Ami is pretty close to the concept of the 2CV.

Go into your kitchen, turn on the tap, and wash your mouth out with soap.

Wibbs · 14-12-2020 11:46am

storker wrote: »

Go into your kitchen, turn on the tap, and wash your mouth out with soap.

It is though S. Both the 2CV and Fiat 500 were built to be cheap no frills cars to get the masses off bicycles and scooters. This Ami is designed to appeal to urban dwellers and the tiktok generation(in France you can drive one at 14) who aren't particularly into cars and get them invested. It even uses your smart phone for things like ECU data and satnav. Very clever. It should help the uptake of electric cars too.

Casati · 14-12-2020 12:34pm

Skoda Yeti. One of the most complete cars out there especially in 4WD and it had a bit of personality that is totally missing with the Karoq.

Ford Ka (i.e. 1996 - 2008). Brilliant small car that made up for basic trim and poor engine choices by being great to drive and practically indestructible. Has Ford not ever wondered why the current model doesn't sell?

TheBoyConor · 14-12-2020 12:45pm

1992-1998 Toyota Carina E 1.9 turbo diesel with a hitch.

Very comfortable, smooth to drive, miser on diesel. Rattly old mechanical diesel engine and slugish acceleration, but will pull all creation behind it and tolerate many years of abuse and neglect without complaint.

With steel wheels with missmatched hubcaps, the boot tied down with baling twine, it would really look the part pulling a cow box into the yard of any mart in the country.

khalessi · 14-12-2020 12:51pm

Wibbs wrote: »

While it doesn't look like one the new leccy Citroen Ami is pretty close to the concept of the 2CV.

Wacky and as French as only Citroen can be, cheap as chips to buy and run and as simple as a rock. Both doors are the same part number as are the back and front panels. No carpet or any such fripperies, you could valet the interior with a mop and bucket. Even the windows are simple and exactly like the 2CV. Loads of colour options. And stickers. Who doesn't love stickers.

OK top whack is 50 kph and range is entirely aimed at urban driving, but for 6000 of your finest yoyos you can't really go wrong. I doubt it could cross a ploughed field carrying a basket of eggs without breaking them, but still.

My first thought also seeing these was of the 2CV, would love to get my hands on one, could be a cult classic in years to come.

AMKC · 14-12-2020 12:52pm

Mk1 Renault Laguna and Renault Megane and Megane Classic. All great cars in there time, stylish unlike a boring VW and good to drive too. Although I will admit the Passat from 97 to 2003 and next one with the big chrome grill were good looking cars and the MK5 Golf was good looking but all other VWs are just so dull and boring.

MK 1 Fiat Bravo and Brava.

Citroen CX, XM and Xantia.

HBC08 · 14-12-2020 1:20pm

khalessi wrote: »

love to see the 2CV, Morris Minor, VW Eos and the proper VW Bus not camper

If there was a newer version of the VW Eos I would have it.Im looking to get a hard top convertible in the new year and there isn't much choice. There seemed to be more choice 10 years ago with the Eos,Megane,Peugeot etc

ELM327 · 14-12-2020 1:22pm

Multipla

Carina E

galwaytt · 14-12-2020 4:00pm

Saab 900 with modern Tech.

For Forks Sake · 14-12-2020 7:29pm

Casati wrote: »

Skoda Yeti. One of the most complete cars out there especially in 4WD and it had a bit of personality that is totally missing with the Karoq.

Ford Ka (i.e. 1996 - 2008). Brilliant small car that made up for basic trim and poor engine choices by being great to drive and practically indestructible. Has Ford not ever wondered why the current model doesn't sell?

..apart from the rust

Will_I_Regret · 14-12-2020 8:21pm

Wish they kept the Mitsubishi Evo series going.

Casati · 14-12-2020 9:00pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

..apart from the rust

I only remember the metal bit on the pop out window rusting, but having said the one in our house was gone before it was 6 years old

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Honda HRV. There were a group of boards posters who continually recommended these yokes to anybody looking for a 7 seater- personally I could never see the attraction of having somebody wedged into the middle front seat beside the driver Berlingo style but they had a following

Ikozma · 14-12-2020 9:03pm

An all new Ford Capri or Sierra would be nice

AMKC · 14-12-2020 9:49pm

MK 1 Ford Focus with better dash materials soft touch all around and a touch screen where the radio was but still physical controls for the heating oh and DRLs as well. Also as a hybrid and electric car. Who knows maybe Ford will do it in the future.

AMKC · 14-12-2020 9:52pm

Casati wrote: »

I only remember the metal bit on the pop out window rusting, but having said the one in our house was gone before it was 6 years old

Surprised nobody has mentioned the Honda HRV. There were a group of boards posters who continually recommended these yokes to anybody looking for a 7 seater- personally I could never see the attraction of having somebody wedged into the middle front seat beside the driver Berlingo style but they had a following

That's not the HRV that's the FRV you are thinking off. Great car , classy and very clever for it's time.

I agree Honda should bring it back. The HRV is smaller and certainly not a 7 seater or even a 6 seater.

Wibbs · 14-12-2020 9:53pm

AMKC wrote: »

MK 1 Ford Focus

Fantastic car that was.

Ikozma · 14-12-2020 10:25pm

Renault 5 or 19

Darc19 · 14-12-2020 10:27pm

Possibly mentioned - Renault Fuego

Sporty looks

AMKC · 14-12-2020 10:31pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Fantastic car that was.

Yep it sure was.
I wish Ford would do something radical and brave like that again.

Darc19 wrote: »

Possibly mentioned - Renault Fuego

Sporty looks

Nope not mentioned yet. Great pick.

AMKC · 14-12-2020 10:34pm

Ikozma wrote: »

Renault 5 or 19

The Renault 5 modernised as an electric car would be great alright but the on 19 I prefer the Megane. Just never liked the square dash in the 19 although the revamped model did look better inside and out. My Uncle had one for a few years before his Megane Classic.

Leonard Hofstadter · 15-12-2020 1:35am

Wibbs wrote: »

While it doesn't look like one the new leccy Citroen Ami is pretty close to the concept of the 2CV.

OK top whack is 50 kph and range is entirely aimed at urban driving, but for 6000 of your finest yoyos you can't really go wrong. I doubt it could cross a ploughed field carrying a basket of eggs without breaking them, but still.

Not usually a fan of EVs, but there's one I absolutely love the idea of!

For Forks Sake · 15-12-2020 10:30am

AMKC wrote: »

MK 1 Ford Focus with better dash materials soft touch all around and a touch screen where the radio was but still physical controls for the heating oh and DRLs as well. Also as a hybrid and electric car. Who knows maybe Ford will do it in the future.

Regrettably, you're probably crediting Ford with more imagination than they posess.

When you see them slap the Mustang brand onto an ugly electric SUV you know they're bang out of ideas

saabsaab · 17-12-2020 7:05pm

galwaytt wrote: »

Saab 900 with modern Tech.

+1 on that, with EV.

AMKC · 17-12-2020 8:06pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Regrettably, you're probably crediting Ford with more imagination than they posess.

When you see them slap the Mustang brand onto an ugly electric SUV you know they're bang out of ideas

Ye your probably right. Like a lot of manufacturers there best days are probably behind them.

25-12-2020 8:17am

AMKC wrote: »

The Renault 5 modernised as an electric car would be great alright but the on 19 I prefer the Megane. Just never liked the square dash in the 19 although the revamped model did look better inside and out. My Uncle had one for a few years before his Megane Classic.

The squared off look cold be very retro, Id suggest a Datsun Cherry, but in EV, havent even started on the xmas drink, be lunchtime. Really many older cars, with modern tech would look great, styling not rehashed much or at all, just the tech, that Matra, looks great.

Stallingrad · 25-12-2020 9:18am

E38 BMW. Only thing you could improve is the infotainment, new head unit job done, oh, and a plastic fuel tank.

leanin2019 · 25-12-2020 12:38pm

Was always fond of the Honda Accord and was disappointed when they discontinued it

CJhaughey · 25-12-2020 12:52pm

leanin2019 wrote: »

Was always fond of the Honda Accord and was disappointed when they discontinued it

I agree totally, I blame Honda UK for that decision, they wanted to have only UK built models in Europe and hated the fact that the Accord was imported from Japan and decided to can it.
Now look at the Honda EU lineup, I can't think of one model they make/made that would interest me.
Civic Type R is just too focused for me.
Luckily I have a Mk8 Type S Tourer so that will do for a while.

JCJCJC · 25-12-2020 1:09pm

Mercedes W108/9

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noelf · 09-01-2021 9:04pm

peasant wrote: »

continuing with Renault

the electric R4 (or something similar ..simple,

Wow you were onto something there 👏

Renault to revive bestselling cars with electric makeover - sources
By Reuters Staff

PARIS (Reuters) - Renault’s new boss Luca de Meo will revive some best-selling models from the 1960s to 90s era as electric cars under a turnaround plan aimed at improving sales and repositioning the struggling automaker, two sources familiar with the matter said.

De Meo is due to unveil his strategy update on Jan. 14, which is expected to focus on the product ranges the company will bet on - including a nod to Renault’s past.

The loss-making French firm has already announced 2 billion euros in cost savings and job cuts in its bid to improve margins and boost the group’s performance in an auto market hit hard by the COVID-19 pandemic and under pressure to produce cleaner vehicles.

De Meo, who has said he wanted to lean on the brand’s French roots, will unveil an electric version of the now-phased-out small 4L cars introduced in the early 1960s, the two sources said.

There will also be a revived, electric version of another popular 1970s and 1980s model, based on the R5 or its successor the “Super Cinq”, the sources added.

Renault declined to comment.

“Luca de Meo is very focused on the products, and his strategy plan will be too,” one of the sources said.

Among other Renault brands, the group will also present three new electric models for the Alpine sportscar label, the sources added.

One of Renault’s challenges will be to create distinct identities for each of the brands, which also include Dacia and Lada.

The company has already flagged that it wants to focus on a smaller number of ranges and hone in on profitable products, as well as potentially exiting some markets, reversing the global push based on volumes under former boss Carlos Ghosn.

Sources had previously told Reuters that well-known but ailing models like the Espace minivans could be among those that are now phased out.

Reporting by Gilles Guillaume, Writing by Sarah White; Editing by Kirsten Donovan

davidglanza · 09-01-2021 10:04pm

Rs500 cosworth

road_high · 10-01-2021 1:32am

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Regrettably, you're probably crediting Ford with more imagination than they posess.

When you see them slap the Mustang brand onto an ugly electric SUV you know they're bang out of ideas

Weirdly I like the new Mustang thingy- commercially they are right to milk their “premium” brand/badge - the German big three have after all made their fortunes doing this- there is a lot of value to be exploited from the Mustang badge so Ford are dead right to do so.
Got a great review in Autocar, but is £57k list price in England. Making it over €60k here which is E Class territory so v remains rubbish be seen where it’ll fit. Guess they’re going after Tesla etc here at this price point

Gremlinertia · 10-01-2021 2:55am

Saab Sonett III, I have been obsessed for years. In a similar vein style-wise Datsun 240z

AMKC · 10-01-2021 1:31pm

Citroen AX. I think it could be a perfect small electric car for Citroen.
One on my cousins had an original one and I still remember that drive up the M1 and he saying it's his own little Ferrari lol it was that loud practically screaming the poor thing was.
Long time since he had that now. Last time I seen him and his wife they had a Citroen C5.

the kelt · 10-01-2021 1:35pm

The old 3 door Ford Sierra (cosworth preferably) I remember my cousins in London had the old 3 door for years and I said if they ever wanted to get rid I would buy it, great until my aunt wrote it off coming out on new Ross one evening.

Opel Manta

Escort XR3i

Mazda 323f (with the pop up lights)

Nissan Patrol

Ford rs200

Mitsubishi Galant

There’s an app/games called top drives that’s like top trumps for cars and they have the majority of all the makes of cars and old models on there (along with some of the more out there ones, donkervoot, de tomaso, Ruf etc) and my god it’s like car porn going through some of the old makes and models there.

Purgative · 10-01-2021 1:44pm

Limbo123 wrote: »

This!

Had that car back in "aw feck". Beautiful, beautiful car. Never the same since a motorcyclist jumped the lights and hit me head on.

Sold it when we got married

road_high · 10-01-2021 6:28pm

AMKC wrote: »

Citroen AX. I think it could be a perfect small electric car for Citroen.
One on my cousins had an original one and I still remember that drive up the M1 and he saying it's his own little Ferrari lol it was that loud practically screaming the poor thing was.
Long time since he had that now. Last time I seen him and his wife they had a Citroen C5.

They have an even smaller lighter yoke called the Ami just out. More of a Renault Twizzy rival. Doubt it’s in Ireland yet if ever

alias no.9 · 10-01-2021 6:45pm

Brand new MK2 Escort if you're feeling flush

BonnieSituation · 10-01-2021 6:47pm

alias no.9 wrote: »

Brand new MK2 Escort if you're feeling flush

I was looking on that site last week after coming across it over on the classics thread. I would certainly love to treat myself to a fresh Mk1 someday.

DroidJoi · 10-01-2021 6:47pm

RX7 FD3S

Skyline R34

I didn't bother with the "manufacturers" name as the cars had a unique identity and a class apart from the normal models by said manufacturers.

I can't post links. Hopefully someone else can.

RIP to the above. Some excellent memories.

What car would you like to see re-introduced to the market?

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