The Last Word

jack hackett · 09-11-2017 12:35pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

I hope so! That Jennifer Gannon one is the worst contributor by far on the show, turned me off what could actually be a decent segment

Yes she does sound like a D4 teenager, one of those that hangs around the dundrum centre, is her real job as a tv reviewer? but whatever about her, is patrick frayne all there? all he does is come on and starts laughing at everything..

also is paul kimmage gone from the show?i havent heard him in a while thankfully, i really never got why they had him on raking up old articles on doping in cycling and reading out long chunks of his journo mates columns

they could do with dropping mark lawrenson too, he has no more interest, always gets the players names wrong, clearly hasn't researched anything

on the rugby side franno always sounds like he just got out of bed and the segment is just hassle to him

i do like the travel segment but i think the cal/marion thing has become very boring

quintana76 · 09-11-2017 12:45pm

The show needs a reset. Too set in its ways. Bring back Father Wishy Washy I say. Presenter? Possibly.

jack hackett · 09-11-2017 1:03pm

quintana76 wrote: »

The show needs a reset. Too set in its ways. Bring back Father Wishy Washy I say. Presenter? Possibly.

Father wishy washy?! must have been before i started listening! Yes I agree it needs a whole make over, nothing wrong with the show overall, its a good show but i think they need to look at the standard of contributor they use, perhaps its a budgetary thing... however, i really cant see matt stick the massive workload he now must have with his tv show and the writing he does also, i could see him moving to newstalk to an earlier slot for maybe an hour as the current show is late and he would have to dash off to tv3 afterwards and it wouldnt leave a massive amount of time for prep, i heard him say he arrives in for work at 11am in todayfm so thats a long day

10-11-2017 12:37am

dominatinMC wrote: »

I hope so! That Jennifer Gannon one is the worst contributor by far on the show, turned me off what could actually be a decent segment

She's annoying , loud and her picks are so either a feminsty type show or some lame celebrity/reality show... The other fella is annoying as well and she seems to use the feminist trick by overtalking everybody to get attention

10-11-2017 12:45am

jack hackett wrote: »

Yes she does sound like a D4 teenager, one of those that hangs around the dundrum centre, is her real job as a tv reviewer? but whatever about her, is patrick frayne all there? all he does is come on and starts laughing at everything..

also is paul kimmage gone from the show?i havent heard him in a while thankfully, i really never got why they had him on raking up old articles on doping in cycling and reading out long chunks of his journo mates columns

they could do with dropping mark lawrenson too, he has no more interest, always gets the players names wrong, clearly hasn't researched anything

on the rugby side franno always sounds like he just got out of bed and the segment is just hassle to him

i do like the travel segment but i think the cal/marion thing has become very boring

A retooling is needed, Kimmage is annoying, Cascarino and Lawernson are irritating soccer panellists.......I like Cal (meh on Marion) but its just another excuse for Coops to whinge about trump...The Gannon one needs to go or tone it down a bit and stop picking either feminsty stuff or lame celebrity shows....
And drop the 5 at 5 crap

Jobs OXO · 10-11-2017 12:54am

Adam Teeny Munchies wrote: »

A retooling is needed, Kimmage is annoying, Cascarino and Lawernson are irritating soccer panellists.......I like Cal (meh on Marion) but its just another excuse for Coops to whinge about trump...The Gannon one needs to go or tone it down a bit and stop picking either feminsty stuff or lame celebrity shows....
And drop the 5 at 5 crap

Gannon really need to learn how to pronounce '-ing'. It isn't 'eatin', 'watchin', 'hearin', 'talkin', etc etc, etc

Ursus Horribilis · 10-11-2017 1:40am

I enjoy the music slot where they sling insults/faux insults at each other.

JoeA3 · 10-11-2017 11:05am

I've posted about my irritation on it here before but ++1 on the comments about the 2 TV "reviewers". Awful awful lame crap with 2 of the most irritating voices on radio you're likely to ever hear.

+1 also on Tony "alright MATT!" Cascarino and Lawro. So so dull... the same old tired "at the end of the day" cliches. There's so many other fresher/better pundits out there now FFS.

Another regular contributor they have on - the guy who does the movies reviews. He has some very annoying twitches / mannerisms. Talks at a million miles per hour (Dave Fanning style) and every sentence is punctuated with "you know that kinda way, loike". Brutal.

10-11-2017 11:16am

jack hackett wrote: »

Father wishy washy?! must have been before i started listening!

I think I remember these days, it was back when Dunphy had the show.

They had 2 comedians doing sketches. A double act of "Navan man and the drunken politician"

I think the handwringing Father WishyWashy was one of their characters too?

It was 20 years ago anyway :eek::D

jack hackett · 10-11-2017 12:34pm

JoeA3 wrote: »

I've posted about my irritation on it here before but ++1 on the comments about the 2 TV "reviewers". Awful awful lame crap with 2 of the most irritating voices on radio you're likely to ever hear.

+1 also on Tony "alright MATT!" Cascarino and Lawro. So so dull... the same old tired "at the end of the day" cliches. There's so many other fresher/better pundits out there now FFS.

Another regular contributor they have on - the guy who does the movies reviews. He has some very annoying twitches / mannerisms. Talks at a million miles per hour (Dave Fanning style) and every sentence is punctuated with "you know that kinda way, loike". Brutal.

ah in fairness to bryan lloyd of the movie review slot, he has like 3 minutes to get through a whole review which is probably why he talks so quickly

jack hackett · 10-11-2017 12:36pm

Jobs OXO wrote: »

Gannnn really need to learn how to pronounce '-ing'. It isn't 'eatin', 'watchin', 'hearin', 'talkin', etc etc, etc

i think she sounds quite hot, but she is annoying though

kimage is by far the worst contributor i have ever heard on tv, the only topic he can talk about is doping in cycling and i think at this stage everyone is bored to tears of hearing about it

hullaballoo · 10-11-2017 3:46pm

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quintana76 · 10-11-2017 4:50pm

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I think I remember these days, it was back when Dunphy had the show.

They had 2 comedians doing sketches. A double act of "Navan man and the drunken politician"

I think the handwringing Father WishyWashy was one of their characters too?

It was 20 years ago anyway :eek::D

Believe it or not it was actually Tom Dunne who did all the voices including the good Father Wishy Washy.

jack hackett · 10-11-2017 4:52pm

quintana76 wrote: »

Believe it or not it was actually Tom Dunne who did all the voices including the good Father Wishy Washy.

haven't things become very PC since then...

quintana76 · 10-11-2017 4:58pm

jack hackett wrote: »

haven't things become very PC since then...

....they sure have. The humourless now supervise humour.

NIMAN · 13-11-2017 8:55pm

I tuned in today for a bit of TLW.....and I think I'm done with it now.

Its just so annoying. Matt was raving about Michael Buble and how he wouldn't go out his back year to listen to him......then proceeded to get all excited to hear how Taylor Swift was going to play Croker. What a sad man.

Then advert after advert, too much traffic info, going on constantly about competitions.....I think there must be more talk about competitions and whats coming up as there actually is discussion.

Back to RTE 1 for me.

Declan A Walsh · 13-11-2017 11:03pm

quintana76 wrote: »

Believe it or not it was actually Tom Dunne who did all the voices including the good Father Wishy Washy.

Believe it or you're wrong! Stuart Carolyn did many (if not most) of the voices, especially Navan Man. I think he did The Drunken Politician as well. He is better known these days as the creator and writer of Love/Hate. He used to be a producer on The Last Word.

Most of those characters had started before Tom Dunne came to Today FM from 98FM. At the time, Today FM was not under the Communicorp umbrella so they were not under common ownership. When Tom Dunne came to Today FM, he did his fictional version of Bill Cullen, known as Dr. Bill, on The Last Word. It was so funny that you could hear The Drunken Politician struggling not to laugh!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 13-11-2017 11:44pm

NIMAN wrote: »

I tuned in today for a bit of TLW.....and I think I'm done with it now.

Its just so annoying. Matt was raving about Michael Buble and how he wouldn't go out his back year to listen to him......then proceeded to get all excited to hear how Taylor Swift was going to play Croker. What a sad man.

Then advert after advert, too much traffic info, going on constantly about competitions.....I think there must be more talk about competitions and whats coming up as there actually is discussion.

Back to RTE 1 for me.

Yeah, I'm a bit fed up of TLW the last few months but I always stop listening for December and January anyway due to work so maybe by February I might have forgotten how poor it is currently.

Or switched channels;)

neris · 14-11-2017 9:47am

It's become to PC and afraid to upset anyone. A whole load of non sense last night with a segment on this colgan fella which has been done to death in the media last week.

14-11-2017 12:07pm

neris wrote: »

It's become to PC and afraid to upset anyone. A whole load of non sense last night with a segment on this colgan fella which has been done to death in the media last week.

Ive a feeling Matt has seen what happens to people who don't keep with the pc line and changed himself (maybe for the tv show as well), he used to be the voice of common sense and was a tough interviewer

jack hackett · 14-11-2017 2:22pm

NIMAN wrote: »

I tuned in today for a bit of TLW.....and I think I'm done with it now.

Its just so annoying. Matt was raving about Michael Buble and how he wouldn't go out his back year to listen to him......then proceeded to get all excited to hear how Taylor Swift was going to play Croker. What a sad man.

Then advert after advert, too much traffic info, going on constantly about competitions.....I think there must be more talk about competitions and whats coming up as there actually is discussion.

Back to RTE 1 for me.

I disagree on the traffic info, as a long suffering commuter i dont think there is enough traffic updates but i totally agree on the competitions, too much of that nonsense, radio 1 is hardly any better? Ray Darcy?

quintana76 · 14-11-2017 3:02pm

Adam Teeny Munchies wrote: »

Ive a feeling Matt has seen what happens to people who don't keep with the pc line and changed himself (maybe for the tv show as well), he used to be the voice of common sense and was a tough interviewer

He seems to have gone on some reducation course to see the 'slight' error of his ways.
He seems to have adopted the new uber PC line with enthusiasm. This results in very tedious radio.
On the other hand if this is due to self censorship for reasons of career advancement it says a lot about freedom of speech in media circles.
Despite this he seems to believe what he saying.
Is this the future of all Irish media opinion?

jack hackett · 14-11-2017 3:22pm

quintana76 wrote: »

He seems to have gone on some reducation course to see the 'slight' error of his ways.
He seems to have adopted the new uber PC line with enthusiasm. This results in very tedious radio.
On the other hand if this is due to self censorship for reasons of career advancement it says a lot about freedom of speech in media circles.
Despite this he seems to believe what he saying.
Is this the future of all Irish media opinion?

In fairness to Matt, the whole world has gone PC now, do you think they would get away with fr sneaky now? not a chance.... oliver callan had his nob nation on radio 2 cancelled a few years back because he depicted brian cowan as a fan of major cigarettes and pints of guinness (which was actually true) but you cant say anything remotely out of tune these days or you will lose your job

dominatinMC · 14-11-2017 6:26pm

jack hackett wrote: »

In fairness to Matt, the whole world has gone PC now, do you think they would get away with fr sneaky now? not a chance.... oliver callan had his nob nation on radio 2 cancelled a few years back because he depicted brian cowan as a fan of major cigarettes and pints of guinness (which was actually true) but you cant say anything remotely out of tune these days or you will lose your job

At the risk of derailing this thread, where has this tidal wave tsunami of PC bull**** come from all of a sudden?? Seriously, it's as if every media outlet and associated personality is suddenly afraid to give their opinion these days

15-11-2017 3:18am

dominatinMC wrote: »

At the risk of derailing this thread, where has this tidal wave tsunami of PC bull**** come from all of a sudden?? Seriously, it's as if every media outlet and associated personality is suddenly afraid to give their opinion these days

Looking at the Hook incident - there’s going to be prats like Lon/Mullally and the like whipping up a fuss on social media - some douche bag apparently listed all advertisements on hookd show and tweeted out to the offended brigade to ‘boycott ‘ the companies

Ursus Horribilis · 15-11-2017 10:31am

I thought Cal Thomas put him in his place yesterday evening when Matt tried to interrupt him. (He'd allowed Marion to speak uninterrupted) I don't always agree with what he has to say but it's good to have a conservative on the show to go against the consensus.

jack hackett · 15-11-2017 10:38am

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I thought Cal Thomas put him in his place yesterday evening when Matt tried to interrupt him. (He'd allowed Marion to speak uninterrupted) I don't always agree with what he has to say but it's good to have a conservative on the show to go against the consensus.

I like Cal in general but i hate the way he feels that just because hes a conservative he has to defend trump, trump isnt a real conservative anyway and hes definitely not a republican

dominatinMC · 15-11-2017 11:44am

jack hackett wrote: »

I like Cal in general but i hate the way he feels that just because hes a conservative he has to defend trump, trump isnt a real conservative anyway and hes definitely not a republican

I know what you mean, but at least Cal brings a bit of much-needed balance (however misguided that is) to the show. Apart from Hook, I can't think of any other Irish radio show where there is balance in covering Trump. I personally don't agree with anything Trump has to say, or do, but there needs to be balance when covering any topic so that people are informed and can form their own opinions.

Ursus Horribilis · 15-11-2017 11:58am

Cal doesn't always defend Trump.

jack hackett · 15-11-2017 12:04pm

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Cal doesn't always defend Trump.

sometimes trump is just undefendable!

BPKS · 18-11-2017 11:17am

Forget the Al Porter issue.

The big news involving a Today FM presenter came during the Last Word on sport yesterday even Matt Cooper was discussing Man Utd and in particular Marouane Fellaini.

Cooper spoke of how Mourinho liked Fellaini cos he is 6ft 4” and they can lump the ball up to him. When discussing Fellaini not signing a new contract and possibly going to play in China for 150k a week, Cooper said, obviously referring to his height, ‘well Fellaini would get on great in China’.

This is an example of racial stereotyping as Cooper was inferring that the Chinese race are small in height.

It’s a disgrace, I am deeply offended for the entire Chinese race and indeed Fellaini was has been innocently dragged into this scandal.

I have not been this offended in days. I demand that Cooper issues a public apology and resigns. I also think that a bunch of liberal millennials should be dragged onto every TV and radio show for the next week to discuss these disgusting comments by Cooper.

hullaballoo · 18-11-2017 11:28am

The average height of Chinese men is 5'6". The European average is nearly 5'9". Marouan Fellaini is 6'4.5". He's tall everywhere in the world but particularly in a place like China.

It's not a racial stereotype. But you know that.

Jobs OXO · 18-11-2017 12:10pm

BPKS wrote: »

Forget the Al Porter issue.

The big news involving a Today FM presenter came during the Last Word on sport yesterday even Matt Cooper was discussing Man Utd and in particular Marouane Fellaini.

Cooper spoke of how Mourinho liked Fellaini cos he is 6ft 4” and they can lump the ball up to him. When discussing Fellaini not signing a new contract and possibly going to play in China for 150k a week, Cooper said, obviously referring to his height, ‘well Fellaini would get on great in China’.

This is an example of racial stereotyping as Cooper was inferring that the Chinese race are small in height.

It’s a disgrace, I am deeply offended for the entire Chinese race and indeed Fellaini was has been innocently dragged into this scandal.

I have not been this offended in days. I demand that Cooper issues a public apology and resigns. I also think that a bunch of liberal millennials should be dragged onto every TV and radio show for the next week to discuss these disgusting comments by Cooper.

Disgusting ! Cooper should be called out on that. Must see if I can start a twitter campaign

dxhound2005 · 18-11-2017 12:29pm

Manchester City are the smallest team in the Premier League 5'10.7" on average. Fellaini should do very well against them.

pjohnson · 18-11-2017 12:49pm

I would have assumed Matt meant the Chinese league being woeful.

BPKS · 18-11-2017 1:24pm

hullaballoo wrote: »

The average height of Chinese men is 5'6". The European average is nearly 5'9". Marouan Fellaini is 6'4.5". He's tall everywhere in the world but particularly in a place like China.

It's not a racial stereotype. But you know that.

He was giving out about the racist chant about Lukaku a few weeks ago. No difference between what Cooper said and what the so called undertones of that chant.

pjohnson · 18-11-2017 1:26pm

BPKS wrote: »

He was giving out about the racist chant about Lukaku a few weeks ago. No difference between what Cooper said and what the so called undertones of that chant.

I assume this is all a skit/parody? People cant be serious?

BPKS · 18-11-2017 1:28pm

pjohnson wrote: »

I would have assumed Matt meant the Chinese league being woeful.

He was talking about Fellaini’s height just before his comments.

So I think it’s fair to assume he meant Fellaini is way taller than all the Chinese players which is racial stereotyping. I am deeply offended by Matt’s comments.

pjohnson · 18-11-2017 1:36pm

BPKS wrote: »

He was talking about Fellaini’s height just before his comments.

So I think it’s fair to assume he meant Fellaini is way taller than all the Chinese players which is racial stereotyping. I am deeply offended by Matt’s comments.

You must have loved Brunker and the gang yesterday so.

Ursus Horribilis · 18-11-2017 2:33pm

Oh don't get me started. It was like an episode of Loose Women. And when one tried to make a legitimate point - that sometimes people can be stupid when they're young and hold opinions they wouldn't when they get older - she was shot down. By a woman who then admitted she calls people out on things she disagrees with and she has lots of rows with them.

ezra_ · 18-11-2017 3:13pm

pjohnson wrote: »

You must have loved Brunker and the gang yesterday so.

What was that about?

I started listening to it after it had started. Is it a regular thing now?

CatFromHue · 18-11-2017 3:43pm

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Oh don't get me started. It was like an episode of Loose Women. And when one tried to make a legitimate point - that sometimes people can be stupid when they're young and hold opinions they wouldn't when they get older - she was shot down. By a woman who then admitted she calls people out on things she disagrees with and she has lots of rows with them.

heard that all right, there seemed to be a bit of competition on getting to speak

Ursus Horribilis · 18-11-2017 4:04pm

The three guests format is a disaster. It has also changed from a nice end of week, lighter side of the news item into something horrible. They did not need to tinker with it.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-11-2017 4:25pm

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

The three guests format is a disaster. It has also changed from a nice end of week, lighter side of the news item into something horrible. They did not need to tinker with it.

+1, it used be a funny look back at stories that woulsn't have been headline news and was very jovial and light.

Now it just seems issue driven and a competition to see how far down the rabbit hole each can go.

CatFromHue · 18-11-2017 4:33pm

yeah, a lot of the stories discussed are stories that are being discussed everywhere already.

Ursus Horribilis · 18-11-2017 4:42pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

yeah, a lot of the stories discussed are stories that are being discussed everywhere already.

Or are variations of it. What was that story about the editor of the Gay Times being sacked only a variation in the Fine Gael tweeting eejit who had resigned earlier?

jack hackett · 20-11-2017 4:33pm

Wonder will Matt tackle the Al Porter situation on the show this evening? Susan Keogh was quick enough to spend a week banging on about it when filling in for matt, closer to home now its not so easy....

I would love to have seen Denis O' Briens face when the Todayfm heads told him Al Porter was a sex pest!

2smiggy · 20-11-2017 5:32pm

said he will be talking about Al Porter in the show !

Vorenus400 · 20-11-2017 5:35pm

Not one word of it on Ivan yates. I imagine the Cooper stuff will include reading out a statement from management and very little discussion

djemba djemba · 20-11-2017 6:17pm

That was a brutal way of dealing with the topic. If Al Porter was on another station they would have destroyed his statement, instead we got a one liner about his statement. A total fudge. Thats it with me and the last word now

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