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Title update: Child gets needlestick injury on Dublin Bus

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    pmasterson95
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    A junkie


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    #3
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Don't you mean "lowest" order?


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    the dark phantom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    junkies junkies bastard


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    #5
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Liberal use of the word 'allegedly'?

    Very light on actual facts?


    Who cares - let's get outraged people.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    I can't get over a publication that uses the grammar "...has since went on to tell her story to ...". Doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the bona fides of the story.


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    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    This isn't what I heard, what I heard was that the syringe has been discarded rather than a fellow passenger actively stabbing the kid. Either way it's horrific.

    On a side note, does anyone know how common or uncommon the name "Zambra" is in Dublin?


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    Penny Tration
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    Every other story I've read about this doesn't say the person stabbed her. They say the syringe was on the seat and she pricked her finger.


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    jungleman
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    It's nothing new. It's so sad that it happened to anyone, especially a child, but it's just so common in Dublin now.

    Where I work, I walk through a little alleyway to get to the staff entrance. The place is always littered with needles, human faeces, and wee-wee.

    About four weeks ago I was walking through that alleyway and noticed something wrong with my shoe. When I bent down to look, I saw a used needle from a syringe was stuck in my converse. Thank god it didn't go fully through and into my foot, but it was still kind of scary. The city centre (Abbey St, O' Connell St, Parnell St especially) is just a rubbish dump for junkies.


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    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm not disagreeing that stabbing a child with a syringe would be a dreadful thing to do. But there are far too few verified facts in that story. Why would a junky have a syringe full of heroine on a bus? How could the mother tell what was in the syringe? Why would a needle prick cause the child to 'pump blood'?

    Sounds like a the author was willing to accept the most sensational version of events without any attempt to fact check any aspect of it. I'll reserve my outrage until I know more.


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    newacc2015
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    This article is filled with mistakes. If the child unfortunately contracted HIV or Hep C. It would take at least 10-14 days at least for HIV to show up in Blood. Its not 'a few days'. Also even if the syringe user had HIV, they would have to have a viral load high enough to spread HIV. I imagine the child was put onto PEP immediately. Which greatly reduces the risk of HIV. There is thousands of medical workers working with HIV+ patients and dont contract HIV, yet they have been used to it. PEP is pretty effective at preventing HIV taking hold in the body.

    Instead of blaming the junkie is clearly not in the right state of mind. Why aren't we questioning how constant Governments who think ignoring IV drug use in the city, will simply cause to go away. The is plenty of talk in Budget 2016 for supporting rural areas to prevent crime. When are we going to see some action on tackling IV drug users.


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    dreamers75
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    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    On a side note, does anyone know how common or uncommon the name "Zambra" is in Dublin?

    I know of at least 3 unrelated families with that name.


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    mynameis905
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    Put all the methadone clinics right slap in the city centre they said.

    Be grand they said.


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    Satan is Real
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    Way too many dirty junkies in Dublin.


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    theteal
    Registered Users Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    I know of at least 3 unrelated families with that name.

    Yup, one of my best mates and then there were a few unrelated lads in school iirc


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    voz es
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    Drugs are an addiction to be addicted to drugs and have your life fall apaart as a result of that does not make a person scum, no more than being a banker


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    Zambra

    Where have I heard that name before


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    the dark phantom
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    voz es wrote: »
    Drugs are an addiction to be addicted to drugs and have your life fall apaart as a result of that does not make a person scum, no more than being a banker

    No doubt bankers end up with some of the drug money too.


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    eviltwin
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    voz es wrote: »
    Drugs are an addiction to be addicted to drugs and have your life fall apaart as a result of that does not make a person scum, no more than being a banker

    Leaving the detritus of your drug use on public transport, shooting up on the street and robbing people to fund your habit does make one a scumbag.


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    Ignatius in bloom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭Ignatius in bloom


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Leaving the detritus of your drug use on public transport, shooting up on the street and robbing people to fund your habit does make one a scumbag.

    Did it belong to a junkie?


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    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Ignatius in bloom wrote: »
    Did it belong to a junkie?

    Who else would leave a needle lying around on a bus? Hardly a diabetic now.


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    Streetwalker
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    Love Dublin. World's greatest city.


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    Ignatius in bloom
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Who else would leave a needle lying around on a bus? Hardly a diabetic now.

    People lose stuff all the time. Awful thing to happen though.


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    FortySeven
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    I never set out in life to become an addict. I didn't wake up one morning and think 'that's the life for me!"

    However bad you think 'junkies' make your life, you will never understand the torture they put themselves through on a daily basis.

    The war on drugs has been lost, it's time we began spending the wasted money on treatment, this is a public health issue and we should fund it that way instead of locking up the addicts.

    I am a decent, intelligent man, hard working and honest. Addiction can be solved with a bit of will and some funding. I am walking proof of that.


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    Brian from Bray
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    One of the mods should change the thread title, lot of people seem to be making threads about this.


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    stop
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Zambra

    Where have I heard that name before

    Take your pick:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-accused-of-robbing-7-drivers-1.79235

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/10+years+for+syringe+attacker.-a061076851


    Robber who stabbed three warders with a syringe filled with his hepatitis infected blood was jailed for 10 years yesterday.

    Heroin addict Paul Zambra knifed himself in the chest so he would be taken to Mater hospital and could escape.

    Zambra, 21, of Ballyfermot, told the officers, who late tested negative for hepatitis C, that he had AIDS. He ran off but gardai caught him trying to hijack a car.


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    pconn062
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    'ublin


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    fleet_admiral
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    Brian from Bray wrote: »
    One of the mods should change the thread title, lot of people seem to be making threads about this.
    Pot. Kettle. Black


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    retalivity
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    FortySeven wrote: »

    However bad you think 'junkies' make your life, you will never understand the torture they put themselves through on a daily basis.

    I dont care, neither do a lot of people, theyre a blight on society and decent people. Nuke the bastards.


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    Brian from Bray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 394 ✭✭Brian from Bray


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    Pot. Kettle. Black

    Huh ?


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    FortySeven
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    retalivity wrote: »
    I dont care, neither do a lot of people, theyre a blight on society and decent people. Nuke the bastards.

    Thankfully there are plenty that do. Tell me, as a gambler do you have the same opinion of those who destroy themselves and their families with that particular addiction?


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