swearing - a ing way of expressing yourself?

Robsweezie · 20-09-2015 1:02pm #1

its been suggested that people who swear tend to be more honest, open, transparent people, rather than those who don't and look down their nose at others for doing so. I always look at people who claim not to swear and think ''what are you like when you're angry, like really pissed off''?

Im a casual swearer who'll drop it in to conversation very often. I do think it's necessary to realise that there are other ways of expressing yourself and balance it out with the swearing. And train yourself to tone it down in certain environments. But i'll never cut out the swearing completely. Oh **** no.

how often do you swear? whats your take on it?

The Moldy Gowl · 20-09-2015 1:05pm

People who need to swear profusely are poorly articulated gowls who can't get their point across without trying to force it.

Drexel · 20-09-2015 1:05pm

I don't swear. I curse!

Dirty Dingus McGee · 20-09-2015 1:07pm

Nothing wrong with it.

Sometimes saying something is a load of bollocks is far more expressive than saying something is rubbish etc.

Swear words are just a combination of letters nothing to get offended about they're no more or less offensive than supposedly proper english words.

NachoBusiness · 20-09-2015 1:08pm

Believe it or not, I have never actually sworn or even used bad language in my fucking life.

Sheep Lover · 20-09-2015 1:08pm

It's a **** **** way of **** **** ****ing ****ers

Kev W · 20-09-2015 1:08pm

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

People who need to swear profusely are poorly articulated gowls who can't get their point across without trying to force it.

Fair enough, but what about those who don't need to but choose to?

Also I think you mean "inarticulate", "poorly articulated" implies a lack of movable joints.

One eyed Jack · 20-09-2015 1:09pm

Robsweezie wrote: »

how often do you swear? whats your take on it?

I curse like a sailor. I tried to cut down on it for a while, but now I just don't give a... fanny, tbh.

Brian from Bray · 20-09-2015 1:10pm

Usually people who swear a lot of the time are gombeens.

brummytom · 20-09-2015 1:11pm

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

People who need to swear profusely are poorly articulated gowls who can't get their point across without trying to force it.

Bullshit.

The Moldy Gowl · 20-09-2015 1:11pm

Kev W wrote: »

Fair enough, but what about those who don't need to but choose to?

Also I think you mean "inarticulate", "poorly articulated" implies a lack of movable joints.

Every day is a school day.

That's what I'm on about. Cursing but not needing to for no reason other than to sound hard or intimidate.

Whitewinged · 20-09-2015 1:13pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I curse like a sailor. I tried to cut down on it for a while, but now I just don't give a... fanny, tbh.

Me too. I dont even realise im doing it. I dont find it offensive unless its being used to offend

The Moldy Gowl · 20-09-2015 1:14pm

brummytom wrote: »

Bullshit.

Hardly. How many videos or instances have you seen of people in altercations not getting their own way and then being cursing and swearing when if they had been polite they would have got what they wanted.
I have been in a few of them working in shops and when they start cursing, you just switch off.

*Kol* · 20-09-2015 1:14pm

Kev W wrote: »

Fair enough, but what about those who don't need to but choose to?

Also I think you mean "inarticulate", "poorly articulated" implies a lack of movable joints.

If I had a lack of moveable joints I would be annoyed enough to swear too!

Kev W · 20-09-2015 1:16pm

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Every day is a school day.

That's what I'm on about. Cursing but not needing to for no reason other than to sound hard or intimidate.

Well yeah but that's pretty specific. Those people will do a lot more than swear to look/sound hard/intimidating. Lots of very intelligent people swear up a storm though.

Frynge · 20-09-2015 1:17pm

No problem with people who swear during the course of their day. But I get really annoyed at people who just swear for the sake of swearing. Thinking it makes them some kind of hard or tough. As an example...... Twenty minutes ago the brother in law just used 14 expletives in three languages while shouting at his phone... The problem was it needed to be charged. I also once witnessed him do a 30 second monologue which probably contained at least 60 fücks or variations on it because he tried to push a door that said pull!

amandstu · 20-09-2015 1:18pm

Why do we not accept "bad language" from our "representatives" ?

bee06 · 20-09-2015 1:19pm

I used to casually swear, like oh s*** if I stubbed my toes for example but then my niece and nephew came along and I didn't want to accidentally swear in front of them so I made a conscious decision to stop. Now I say oh sugar and sound like a nerd but at least I don't have a three year old saying oh s*** after learning it from me. The only time I swear now is in the car when some dope does something stupid ... I get terrible road rage.

Galwayguy35 · 20-09-2015 1:25pm

I have a bit of a temper so when something goes wrong or if I'm stuck in traffic I'd turn the air blue although I'm trying to cut down on the bad language.

Links234 · 20-09-2015 1:29pm

Swearing is like a spice, it brings out the flavour in language, but you wouldn't want to eat a whole spoonful of it on its own.

amandstu · 20-09-2015 1:44pm

Should swearing be a private activity and be less acceptable when done "in public" ?

I would consider it bad form to swear in company that you did not think would appreciate it (and it might almost be bad form not to swear in company that "expected it" )

Gwynplaine · 20-09-2015 2:18pm

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

People who need to swear profusely are poorly articulated gowls who can't get their point across without trying to force it.

I shared a house with a lad years ago, where every second or third word was f×ck. He's was an awful eejit.
"Yeah man, f×ck like yeah f×ck it, I'm going for a f×cling shower then I'm going to the f×cking pub"

I used to love it when he was gone home to mammy every weekend.

recipio · 20-09-2015 2:29pm

Its a societal thing - the language on here is much more coarse than UK/American forums. Sorry, I regard anybody who swears the same way as Lloyd George said of DeValera - 'he is a man of limited vocabulary '

frozenfrozen · 20-09-2015 2:39pm

I swear very often. I'd talk a lot slower if everyone else didn't seem to want to blast in with their comments as soon as there is a pause for breath. Instead I have to speak like an auctioneer using **** as punctuation.

Nodin · 20-09-2015 2:44pm

Frynge wrote: »

No problem with people who swear during the course of their day. But I get really annoyed at people who just swear for the sake of swearing. Thinking it makes them some kind of hard or tough. As an example...... Twenty minutes ago the brother in law just used 14 expletives in three languages while shouting at his phone... The problem was it needed to be charged. I also once witnessed him do a 30 second monologue which probably contained at least 60 fücks or variations on it because he tried to push a door that said pull!

If that is literally true, you should be proud of the fecker.

Nodin · 20-09-2015 2:45pm

recipio wrote: »

Its a societal thing - the language on here is much more coarse than UK/American forums. Sorry, I regard anybody who swears the same way as Lloyd George said of DeValera - 'he is a man of limited vocabulary '

It's create when you can create categories that you can shove people into and turn your nose up at.

Turtyturd · 20-09-2015 2:47pm

Depends on the situation. Driving or playing the Xbox on line seems to bring out the worst. I tone it down around the kids, my parents, or in a professional environment. Although I do play football with a lot of people from work and it's funny to see the language difference.

5rtytry56 · 20-09-2015 2:59pm

If any poster in this thread happens to call a phone help line tomorrow, e.g. for technical support of banking enquiry, wondering will any of ya swear? See how far it will get ya. Go on.

Tarzana2 · 20-09-2015 2:59pm

Kev W wrote: »

Fair enough, but what about those who don't need to but choose to?

I think there's a difference between using a well-placed swear word and all your sentences being littered with swear words. If you use them all the time, they lose their impact, and it does kinda seem like you don't have a great vocabulary. I've always said a well-placed swear word is a beautiful thing, but it being well-placed is down to it being impactful or just the right word to use at the time. Swear words are also great for punctuation. If you use them all the time, and use many per sentence, you lose all this and it does point to inarticulacy also.

But people who say that people who use swear words ever are unintelligent are just plain wrong. :P

Tarzana2 · 20-09-2015 3:07pm

recipio wrote: »

Its a societal thing - the language on here is much more coarse than UK/American forums. Sorry, I regard anybody who swears the same way as Lloyd George said of DeValera - 'he is a man of limited vocabulary '

Your two statements don't really gel. Is it a societal thing or does it signify a limited vocabulary? The two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive but I doubt you'd accuse a whole society of being limited vocabulary-wise. And if you did, that would just be stupid.

F412 · 20-09-2015 3:13pm

In curse constantly, couldnt get through a day's work without it particularly when things are going wrong. I'd say I curse in nearly every sentence.

Whitewinged · 20-09-2015 3:13pm

5rtytry56 wrote: »

If any poster in this thread happens to call a phone help line tomorrow, e.g. for technical support of banking enquiry, wondering will any of ya swear? See how far it will get ya. Go on.

Swearing can be aggressive, intimadating, hurtful and disrepectful.

It can also be used in humour, moments of passion, a way to emphasise something like "i fcuking love ham sandwiches"

They can even be used to help you realease a bit of anger like if you hurt yourself you might say ffs or if you have a breakup with someone you might say "fck ill get over it"

alot of people use the word feck and funnily enough seems more acceptable to people just because the u is replaced with an e!

They are just words, its the intent behind them that matters.

mad muffin · 20-09-2015 4:11pm

Mother ****ing snakes on a mother ****ing plane… that is all ****ers! :pac:

Frynge · 20-09-2015 5:30pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rX7-R54-Q8

folamh · 20-09-2015 5:44pm

I don't really care if someone swears or not, as long as I can understand them and they get their point across.

Eeden · 20-09-2015 6:07pm

So many studies show that if you are in pain swearing increases your tolerance to that pain.

I'm going to link to this blog for the second time this week, Strong Language ("a sweary blog about swearing"), written by very articulate folks. Swearing is not always just for lunkheads. Though it sometimes is.

I'll also say that I swear a lot. I have kids. My kids have avoided swearing until they were in their 20s, because they looked on swearing as "parent talk" which was wayyyy too embarrassing to emulate! :P

amandstu · 20-09-2015 6:12pm

Nodin wrote: »

It's create when you can create categories that you can shove people into and turn your nose up at.

Well as someone once said"As for poverty, no one need be ashamed to admit it, the real shame is in not taking practical measures to escape from it."

The same applies to vocabulary.

Mind you ,Lloyd George probably had vocabulary coming out of his ears and so ill placed to criticise.

riclad · 20-09-2015 6:29pm

Swearing is ok in certain situations ,when you are under stress,
or angry or scared .
i Don,t like people who constantly swear ,every 3rd sentence is eff that ,
And its almost unconsious ,part of their speech pattern ,
they swear in casual conversation .
not just to show anger or scare off someone in an argument .
The people who do this tend to be working class ,
uneducated ignorant people .
swearing everyday is just gross and annoying .

Peregrine · 20-09-2015 6:32pm

I swear a good bit but it's usually to express annoyance, anger, excitement, emphasis etc.

I'm not a fan of needless swearing in casual conversations though. I mean the repetitive and nonchalant use of the word "****ing" in a conversation.

Tarzana2 · 20-09-2015 6:58pm

Peregrine wrote: »

I swear a good bit but it's usually to express annoyance, anger, excitement, emphasis etc.

I'm not a fan of needless swearing in casual conversations though. I mean the repetitive and nonchalant use of the word "****ing" in a conversation.

Yeah, this is it really.

RWCNT · 20-09-2015 7:22pm

Im a very sweary person in casual conversation with people I know. Swearing AT people is a whole different story to just using swear words in a sentence though.

recipio · 20-09-2015 8:11pm

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Your two statements don't really gel. Is it a societal thing or does it signify a limited vocabulary? The two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive but I doubt you'd accuse a whole society of being limited vocabulary-wise. And if you did, that would just be stupid.

Those who insist on using an expletive in every conversation generally have a limited range of vocabulary, simple as.

Diabhal Beag · 20-09-2015 8:16pm

Meh. If somebody throws in a few ***** and ****s while they're talking it neither improves nor hinders my opinion of them. Might be just me though.

Kev W · 20-09-2015 9:26pm

There is something to be said for swearing infrequently so that when you do swear it's all the more effective.

Tarzana2 · 20-09-2015 10:21pm

recipio wrote: »

Those who insist on using an expletive in every conversation generally have a limited range of vocabulary, simple as.

Not true, but I can see your mind is made up on this. The clue is in the "simple as", up there with "fact!".

recipio · 25-09-2015 11:39am

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Not true, but I can see your mind is made up on this. The clue is in the "simple as", up there with "fact!".

Well, I think that all this swearing puts us on the wrong side of being crude neanderthals.
It has no place in intelligent conversation. How would you like it if your doctor told you you had 'fu****g cancer.' ? You would be shocked at his indiscretion - just as I am when I hear offensive conversations between people who should know better.

osarusan · 25-09-2015 11:51am

Kev W · 25-09-2015 11:53am

recipio wrote: »

Well, I think that all this swearing puts us on the wrong side of being crude neanderthals.
It has no place in intelligent conversation. How would you like it if your doctor told you you had 'fu****g cancer.' ? You would be shocked at his indiscretion - just as I am when I hear offensive conversations between people who should know better.

The fact that you use a doctor in your example is telling in and of itself. We hold doctors to arguably the highest standards of professionalism for people we are likely to meet in out everyday lives.

I would never consider holding the vast majority of people I meet to such a standard.

sbsquarepants · 25-09-2015 12:17pm

The missus is always on at me for swearing. I decided the other day I better listen to her when my 2 year old daughter says as we're driving down a country road - look daddy there's loads of fúcking cows in that field!:eek:

Medusa22 · 25-09-2015 12:18pm

I'm another person who litters my sentences with curse words. I'm not sure when it started actually but I think it must have been in the last few years, as one of my ex-boyfriends was greatly amused to hear me say things like ''oh crumbs! I stubbed my toe'', or whatever, I rarely if ever cursed then. I still hear my dad say things like ''Oh sugar''

Now, I curse like a sailor, I use curse words to emphasise, to add a bit of colour, as adjectives. However, when I'm actually angry I don't curse at people, because that would be rude :pac:

I tone it down (or try to but sometimes I forget) in front my my parents and relatives or in situations where it wouldn't be acceptable.

TheLastMohican · 25-09-2015 2:21pm

I use the f word quite frequently. Emphasis ....... it's a utility word ....... noun, verb, adjective etc. What jumped up prick was the first to say that a few random letters thrown together constitute a social gaff?

As language evolves so do "curse" words. But not the egotistical, elitist, smug and snobby assholes who deride others for their accents choice of words. If it was the accent it would be deemed racist!

OK, let's say that some celebrity says that the word boobs is a no-no. There will be a lot of celebheads who will take it as Gospel and sideline that word from their daily usage.

Can anyone come up with a reason why fuck, bollox, seeyounexttuesday etc became offensive?

We all know the type who tut-tut such utterings ......... po-faced, Taliban type prigs who have fuck all better to do.

swearing - a ****ing **** way of expressing yourself?

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swearing - a ing way of expressing yourself?