worked for me...
honestly - just treat them like ****, everyone else is kinda like "can i come in please sir?" and it gives them an option to say no.
Just scoff at them as if they're the people hired to open the door for you WHICH THEY ARE and thats all and they're usually so shocked (and stupid) that you're at the bar ordering a manhattan before they've realised a young fellah just shat all over them.
btw, lillies never ask for id - they just either let you in or not - thet's where being well dressed comes in.
and stop categorising places like zanzibar and firewaorks as "trendy". If you think these places are trendy you really have no idea.
[This message has been edited by fisty (edited 16-07-2001).]