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John Hume RIP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭votecounts


    RIP John Hume, met him once, what a gentleman.
    As for David Trimble, should not mentioned in the same breath as hume, did he ever give his nobel prize money to charity as he said he would and remember his victory march with paisley at Drumcree.
    Not one bit surpised at gregory campell, bigot of a man still thinks there shouldn't be a catholic around the place


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Brave and intelligent man. RIP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    Trimble undid any good deeds by taking Paisley's hand and walking down the Garvaghy Road. How the Nobel Peace committee could watch footage of Trimble and Paisley and still give him a share of the nobel prize after is a head scratcher. As some have said he isn't fit to lace Hume's shoes. We as Nationalists and Catholics were blessed to have a man of integrity, decency, courage and intelligence like John Hume to advocate a peaceful way forward in Northern Ireland. Indeed all people of N.I. owe a great deal of gratitude to John Hume. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to walk away from peace talks in the face of violence, sectarianism and intransigence but he persevered and the North is now reaping the rewards of his courage and stellar determination.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    John Hume is up there with Martin Luther King in terms of his impact in bringing peace among highly divided and tense communities. He’s a giant among people.

    His impact will be felt for a long time to come. If there ever is a United Ireland his name will be the first one mentioned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭Five Eighth


    Was watching UTV news at 6pm and the only guy who couldn't bring himself to acknowledge what JH had achieved was some DUP guy called Gregory Campbell, he said Hume was divisive during the civil rights protests.

    What a bitter old man this guy is.
    Gregory Campbell only recently again started to slag off the Irish language. He well knows by making fun of what many nationalists feel is part of their culture, he is by association belittling them. Campbell is the MP for the neighbouring Westminster constituency to Foyle which John Hume represented for many years. It is indicative of John Hume that he offered a hand of friendship to men such as Campbell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    In a strange sense the comments from Gregory Campbell merely serve to highlight what a monumental achievement a John Hume pulled off in bringing peace to the North.This is precisely the mindset he was up against and which Trimble, apparently a moderate Unionist, reinforced when walking down the Garvaghy Road with Paisley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,365 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Faugheen wrote: »
    John Hume is up there with Martin Luther King in terms of his impact in bringing peace among highly divided and tense communities. He’s a giant among people.

    His impact will be felt for a long time to come. If there ever is a United Ireland his name will be the first one mentioned.

    It's just a matter of time.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Gregory Campbell is DUP. Unless you were one of the lads who ripped the head off the marquis de St Ruth in Aughrim back in 1691 everybody else is a disgrace to them.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭circadian


    Was watching UTV news at 6pm and the only guy who couldn't bring himself to acknowledge what JH had achieved was some DUP guy called Gregory Campbell, he said Hume was divisive during the civil rights protests.

    What a bitter old man this guy is.

    Gregory Campbell is a hateful, bitter bully and top grade ****. I'm sure if thee are any nationalists here that grew up in predominantly Protestant areas in the 70s on the Waterside would know very well who he was.

    There are few people who I would genuinely detest, Campbell is one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    This man lived it all, a great example to everybody, and a man of great integrity, he must have had some patience to have put up with everyone from Paisley to Thatcher and to keep his principals till his dying day, all the evil and hatred surrounding him, and he never wavered. Was a great Derry man and a patriot who fought his battles without recourse to violence, and brought people together by compromise, when the loudest voices were preaching violence, he was a man of peace. He also set up the credit unions, and was a tireless worker for constituents and ordinary people. RIP.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    Gregory Campbell only recently again started to slag off the Irish language. He well knows by making fun of what many nationalists feel is part of their culture, he is by association belittling them. Campbell is the MP for the neighbouring Westminster constituency to Foyle which John Hume represented for many years. It is indicative of John Hume that he offered a hand of friendship to men such as Campbell.

    IQ of a housebrick allied to an ethno-religious superiority complex, Campbell doesn't do much to help the wider perception of his party and community. It's a common thread running through settler populations, deep down in the basest essence of their beings they viscerally know their hegemony isn't justified.


  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭Five Eighth


    dd973 wrote: »
    IQ of a housebrick allied to an ethno-religious superiority complex, Campbell doesn't do much to help the wider perception of his party and community. It's a common thread running through settler populations, deep down in the basest essence of their beings they viscerally know their hegemony isn't justified.
    Always attempt to be objective when watching or listening to debates on Northern Ireland. Try to recognise my own built-in biases. One mannerism which I have noticed is the tendency for DUP spokespeople to snigger and smirk when the other person to the debate is speaking. The biggest culprit is Gregory Campbell. He always seems to have a condescending smirk on his face. Says it all, I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    batman75 wrote: »
    Trimble undid any good deeds by taking Paisley's hand and walking down the Garvaghy Road. How the Nobel Peace committee could watch footage of Trimble and Paisley and still give him a share of the nobel prize after is a head scratcher. As some have said he isn't fit to lace Hume's shoes. We as Nationalists and Catholics were blessed to have a man of integrity, decency, courage and intelligence like John Hume to advocate a peaceful way forward in Northern Ireland. Indeed all people of N.I. owe a great deal of gratitude to John Hume. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to walk away from peace talks in the face of violence, sectarianism and intransigence but he persevered and the North is now reaping the rewards of his courage and stellar determination.

    All true. Trimble couldn't be kept off the Garvaghy Road back in the day.

    BUT he did move and moved further than anyone else (and to be fair needed to) Contrast Trimble with poor sad Gregory Campbell who still clinging to the good ol' days of Duke Street and Magilligan Strand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    It's just a matter of time.

    Dream on


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    John Hume funeral: Family of former SDLP leader say streets of Derry (should not) be lined for funeral.

    Sounds like the great man's send-off will be a much smaller affair than the IRA fellas funeral a few weeks ago.

    Restrictions imposed as a result of the global pandemic will will limit numbers in St Eugene's Cathedral to his family & a few notable exceptions.

    In normal circumstances Prime Minister Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister Tony Blair & former US President Bill Clinton would have travelled to NI for the funeral, but Covid restrictions prevent them . . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Yes. IMHO it would be one of the largest funeral of the state if it wasnt for the unfortunate time we are in.

    "His family added: “We know that he would have prioritised public health and the safety and health of our communities. We’re asking people to follow that guidance – please do not put yourself or others at risk. Instead, we would ask that people light a candle for peace at 9pm in their homes or at their door.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Yes. IMHO it would be one of the largest funeral of the state if it wasnt for the unfortunate time we are in.

    "His family added: “We know that he would have prioritised public health and the safety and health of our communities. We’re asking people to follow that guidance – please do not put yourself or others at risk. Instead, we would ask that people light a candle for peace at 9pm in their homes or at their door.”

    Decent to the last


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    A wonderful man, with a legacy to us all and our future generations that will never be equalled. I lit a candle for him last night and it seemed such a tiny gesture for such a great man. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,966 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Decent to the last

    Never a truer word said.
    With this in mind, according to Tommy Gorman, one of his sons won't be at the funeral for this reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    In bits here, Phil Coulter playing "The Town I Loved So Well" on the keyboard :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    leahyl wrote: »
    In bits here, Phil Coulter playing "The Town I Loved So Well" on the keyboard :(

    One of my favourite stories about Hume was his creation of the Derry Credit Union using his own money. The Undertones applied to that Credit Union for a £400 loan to record Teenage Kicks. I know it’s extremely minor in terms of his overall contribution to Irish life, but it just resonated with me as it’s such a perfect little pop song.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    One of my favourite stories about Hume was his creation of the Derry Credit Union using his own money. The Undertones applied to that Credit Union for a £400 loan to record Teenage Kicks. I know it’s extremely minor in terms of his overall contribution to Irish life, but it just resonated with me as it’s such a perfect little pop song.

    Undertones story almost too good to be true but it is. Also think Undertones drummer borrowed to buy a kit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭Five Eighth


    One of my favourite stories about Hume was his creation of the Derry Credit Union using his own money. The Undertones applied to that Credit Union for a £400 loan to record Teenage Kicks. I know it’s extremely minor in terms of his overall contribution to Irish life, but it just resonated with me as it’s such a perfect little pop song.
    Great story. Reminds me of one of the most fondly watched films of all time staring James Stewart. George Bailey (the character played by Stewart) manages a town’s (type of) credit union to provide low interest rate funds to the townsfolk. Bailey sacrifices his own plans and dreams to keep the business going for the welfare of others. The name of that film? It’s a Wonderful Life. How appropriate is that for John Hume? A wonderful man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Never a truer word said.
    With this in mind, according to Tommy Gorman, one of his sons won't be at the funeral for this reason.
    A very dignified funeral. Thats how decent people behave not like the scumbag carnival a few weeks ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Edgware wrote: »
    A very dignified funeral. Thats how decent people behave not like the scumbag carnival a few weeks ago

    That’s the best description I’ve heard of that sham. MO’N posing for selfies in the graveyard like a Z list pop star with 2 thugs and insisting afterwards that social distancing was observed summed it all up for me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Eduard Khil


    Not the time or place for mudslinging about how anyone else handled their mourning process. A great man has been laid to rest let's leave it at that and continue to celebrate his vast contribution to Irish society as a whole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,019 ✭✭✭davycc


    Rip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Having a few days holiday up the north this week with my family sitting outside the hotel now having a few drinks in the city centre of Belfast

    Last time I was here was the early 90's and I certainly would not be doing the same

    Thank you John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Having a few days holiday up the north this week with my family sitting outside the hotel now having a few drinks in the city centre of Belfast

    Last time I was here was the early 90's and I certainly would not be doing the same

    Thank you John
    Pop up the Shankill and see how you get on with the Rangers crew


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    Seems like Trimble is still sore over the Hume/Adams talks seeing them as an attempt to bypass democracy. Hume had no alternative but to enter into talks with Adams in the pursuit of peace. So Trimble is talking nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,894 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Rip to Hume

    Trimble co winning a noble prize for peace lol. Hatred in that man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Rip to Hume

    Trimble co winning a noble prize for peace lol. Hatred in that man
    And he was a moderate unionist. I wonder how the apprentice boys are getting on? Does anyone know if they have qualified yet? Sad circumstances that Mr Hume could not have the send off he deserved, but no surprise that himself and his family would act in the best interests of people, and observe the guidelines as they are now, as many others have said, in direct contrast to the other shower, who think they wrote the book on patriotism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭maebee


    I haven't seen the inside of a church in over 30 years but watched John Hume's funeral online from start to finish today. He has to be the greatest Irishman since Daniel O'Connell.

    We down south should now really understand the discrimination our Northern Irishmen/women had to endure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    maebee wrote: »
    I haven't seen the inside of a church in over 30 years but watched John Hume's funeral online from start to finish today. He has to be the greatest Irishman since Daniel O'Connell.

    We down south should now really understand the discrimination our Northern Irishmen/women had to endure.

    By coincidence they were both buried on the same date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,966 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    batman75 wrote: »
    Seems like Trimble is still sore over the Hume/Adams talks seeing them as an attempt to bypass democracy. Hume had no alternative but to enter into talks with Adams in the pursuit of peace. So Trimble is talking nonsense.

    Trimble seemed to get on better with Seamus Mallon. It is a bit rich of him to be sore about Hume talking to Adams, considering he was very happy to hold Ian's hand and march with him at the site of that contentious parade which was a lvf stronghold. No doubt he would justify it as having no choice because of internal and external political pressure on him.

    Therefore he should be wise enough and generous enough to see why Hume had to talk to Adams, despite the great personal cost to him and his family for doing so.
    I'm sure the likes of Eoghan Harris will acknowledge this in his weekend article, and apologise accordingly. It's more likely the Healy Raes will announce they are joining the Green Party before that happens.


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