Rainfall/Drought Watch 2020

Gonzo · 11-06-2020 3:47pm

nacho libre wrote: »

This time next week those gushing over the rain will be sick of it:D

I can see it already, even the farmers could be sick of the rain by the end of June especially if we start seeing floods.

MJohnston · 11-06-2020 3:51pm

average_runner wrote: »

Prefer if it would go away

Realistically we'd all love endless sunny and warm days where there was no risk of drought, but sadly we have the water system that we do have.

We already have a hosepipe ban, and more drastic measures would likely have followed very quickly. As it is, we likely still need more rain to counteract what we didn't get over the last 3 months.

Supercell · 11-06-2020 3:55pm

nacho libre wrote: »

This time next week those gushing over the rain will be sick of it:D

Love the turn of phrase

My veggies are already perking up, hosepipe ban is a pain in the water butt filling up again nicely :pac::pac::pac:

SouthWesterly · 11-06-2020 4:12pm

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

The drought is well and truly over in Dublin anyway. Heaviest rain I have seen in weeks.

It's probably the only rain you've seen in weeks

I'll get my wellies!

silverharp · 11-06-2020 4:25pm

Dublin - Home water butt full for the fist time since March probably

Larbre34 · 11-06-2020 4:28pm

Gonzo wrote: »

I can see it already, even the farmers could be sick of the rain by the end of June especially if we start seeing floods.

The ground can take an awful lot. Irish Water outlined a requirement of 100mm in short order, plus a return to normal patterns thereafter. Looking at the various models I think the end of the month will have us back roughly where we should be and will be welcomed by gardeners, farmers and Irish Water alike.

Sierra Oscar · 11-06-2020 5:13pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

It's probably the only rain you've seen in weeks I'll get my wellies!

That's true actually, I can't really remember much rainfall if any since the whole lockdown was put in place. Aside from it spitting a little bit of rain here and there.

This time next week we will be sick of it.

highdef · 11-06-2020 5:18pm

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

That's true actually, I can't really remember much rainfall if any since the whole lockdown was put in place. Aside from it spitting a little bit of rain here and there.

Well it all makes sense now, as the first major restrictions were lifted just a few days ago and now downpours are expected in many areas right through the first weekend where we can all travel a decent distance!!!!

Oneiric 3 · 12-06-2020 1:52pm

Of all of the reporting Met Eireann stations up to yesterday, Casement in Dublin is now the wettest station in the land with 19.6mm accumulated there since the sart of the month. Sherkin Island with its 1.8mm remains the driest station so far. Countrywide average is 10.4mm.

pauldry · 12-06-2020 3:32pm

Yup we are getting about 1mm a day since hot spell ended . Grass a bit greener but rivers even lower and some streams gone altogether

SouthWesterly · 12-06-2020 4:17pm

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

That's true actually, I can't really remember much rainfall if any since the whole lockdown was put in place. Aside from it spitting a little bit of rain here and there.

This time next week we will be sick of it.

I believed you.

I've had 6mm in the last week.
15.2 mm this month.
Had 2 good downpours in the dry spell.
An inch in an hour and a week later another inch over a few days.

Ground was bone dry though since.

North kerry

Neddyusa · 12-06-2020 8:41pm

pauldry wrote: »

Yup we are getting about 1mm a day since hot spell ended . Grass a bit greener but rivers even lower and some streams gone altogether

Yep considering the dry spell is supposedly over - we're still running 60-70% below normal for June
:rolleyes:

SouthWesterly · 12-06-2020 10:11pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

Yep considering the dry spell is supposedly over - we're still running 60-70% below normal for June
:rolleyes:

This weekend will hopefully sort it for a lot of us

Neddyusa · 12-06-2020 11:37pm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

This weekend will hopefully sort it for a lot of us

Hope so, but I'm hearing that for the last two weeks now though...so it's all still FI to me!

Danzy · 12-06-2020 11:41pm

It'll take a very wet month to get it to normal here, not that I want a return to normal service.

SouthWesterly · 12-06-2020 11:55pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

Hope so, but I'm hearing that for the last two weeks now though...so it's all still FI to me!

I had 15mm this month and around 50mm last month.

Needs more though.

Danno · 13-06-2020 12:13am

SouthWesterly wrote: »

I had 15mm this month and around 50mm last month.

Needs more though.

Seriously, what is all this talk about rain??? 3.2mm this month on top of a very dry May (not record-breaking either, we got 15.4mm - a little under twice the 7.8mm recorded in May '19). Our grass is almost pure orange around these parts of South Laois.

(Saving a whack on not having to purchase Petrol to cut the lawns!)

Rebelbrowser · 13-06-2020 12:26am

Danno wrote: »

Seriously, what is all this talk about rain??? 3.2mm this month on top of a very dry May (not record-breaking either, we got 15.4mm - a little under twice the 7.8mm recorded in May '19). Our grass is almost pure orange around these parts of South Laois.

(Saving a whack on not having to purchase Petrol to cut the lawns!)

Depends where you are. There was never a drought down here in Cork, a fair bit of rain throughout May (even though it was still a lovely month) and rain most days this week at some stage. The hose ban down here was comical. And looking at the next two weeks its about to get a lot more comical....

Danno · 13-06-2020 12:30am

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Depends where you are. There was never a drought down here in Cork, a fair bit of rain throughout May (even though it was still a lovely month) and rain most days this week at some stage. The hose ban down here was comical. And looking at the next two weeks its about to get a lot more comical....

Indeed, it's all about location, location location!

I remember Summer'16 and lads 40 miles west of here talking about relentless rains there and we were parched. It's amazing how Ireland has so many micro-climates.

Danzy · 13-06-2020 12:51am

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Depends where you are. There was never a drought down here in Cork, a fair bit of rain throughout May (even though it was still a lovely month) and rain most days this week at some stage. The hose ban down here was comical. And looking at the next two weeks its about to get a lot more comical....

The difference in weather between my place and 10 miles away is bigger than here and 100 miles west.

RobertKK · 13-06-2020 1:20am

Yeah very little rain so far this month.
Hopefully it all starts changing from today.

Mortelaro · 13-06-2020 7:22am

RobertKK wrote: »

Yeah very little rain so far this month.
Hopefully it all starts changing from today.

just shy of 40mm for june here in Arklow now in june
Another 7.6mm overnight
Everything quite green now in these parts!

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1271683477222707201?s=19

SouthWesterly · 13-06-2020 7:48am

Danno wrote: »

Seriously, what is all this talk about rain??? 3.2mm this month on top of a very dry May (not record-breaking either, we got 15.4mm - a little under twice the 7.8mm recorded in May '19). Our grass is almost pure orange around these parts of South Laois.

(Saving a whack on not having to purchase Petrol to cut the lawns!)

Friends 5 km either side of me saw the rain over my place but got none of it. Had a storm with 25mm in an hour. They didn't get it.

RobertKK · 13-06-2020 7:59am

Mortelaro wrote: »

just shy of 40mm for june here in Arklow now in june
Another 7.6mm overnight
Everything quite green now in these parts!

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1271683477222707201?s=19

Just 8.8mm for the month here in north east Kilkenny and the weather station in the city is also showing similar.
Everything still burnt looking.
So would welcome a lot of rain:) you have been lucky.

Mortelaro · 13-06-2020 8:05am

RobertKK wrote: »

Just 8.8mm for the month here in north east Kilkenny and the weather station in the city is also showing similar.
Everything still burnt looking.
So would welcome a lot of rain:) you have been lucky.

Irish sea to thank mostly
If it was the depth of winter,we'd be buried in snow
A preponderance of northeaserlies here

DOCARCH · 13-06-2020 8:08am

5.0mm since midnight in Dublin 16. 23.0mm for the month so far.

Rebelbrowser · 13-06-2020 9:28am

Danno wrote: »

Indeed, it's all about location, location location!

I remember Summer'16 and lads 40 miles west of here talking about relentless rains there and we were parched. It's amazing how Ireland has so many micro-climates.

Just looked there and in fact Cork Airport had 69mm in May and 6mm up to Thursday, but plenty rain in the last 48 hours not recorded in that and more to come. Crazy differences alright. All the more reason not to have national hosepipe bans etc. Always feel with hosepipe bans that if they have to announce one for Dublin that in order to get buy in they make it a national ban.

SouthWesterly · 13-06-2020 10:58am

3mm since midnight
North Kerry

Oneiric 3 · 13-06-2020 12:21pm

RobertKK wrote: »

Just 8.8mm for the month here in north east Kilkenny and the weather station in the city is also showing similar.
Everything still burnt looking.
So would welcome a lot of rain:) you have been lucky.

Just 5.3mm so far in NE Galway, yet grass is still looking green, if a little dull looking. I reckon the lack of any real prolonged sun recently is preventing the grass from turning yellow/red. Either that or there is still moisture in the ground from those excessive rains late last winter.

Gonzo · 13-06-2020 12:42pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Just 5.3mm so far in NE Galway, yet grass is still looking green, if a little dull looking. I reckon the lack of any real prolonged sun recently is preventing the grass from turning yellow/red. Either that or there is still moisture in the ground from those excessive rains late last winter.

I know we had 3 fairly dry months in a row but the talk of drought is probably overblown a bit. We had 8 months of deluges before the dry spell started. The land here was saturated till at least mid April before things started to dry out and by May the grass was starting to turn slightly yellow. Grass is back as green as ever here now with all the cold, cloud and frequent bursts of rain since Tuesday/Wednesday. The soil moisture deficient is still on the low side but the gardens now look back to normal.

IF we hadn't all those downpours from August 2019 to February 2020, this dry spell could have had a far more serious drought without 8 months of deluges to soften the blow from lack of rain during Spring.

13.1mm of rain now for Dunsany up to the 12th of June. The mean is 71.5mm so still a bit to go for the deficit to recover. We've had several mm of rain yesterday so I expect that total to rise a bit by tomorrow.

Not sure Meath or Dublin will see much in the way of rain between now and next weekend, from here on the midlands, west and south will take the brunt of the showers and rainfall over the next few days.

nacho libre · 13-06-2020 12:48pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Just 5.3mm so far in NE Galway, yet grass is still looking green, if a little dull looking. I reckon the lack of any real prolonged sun recently is preventing the grass from turning yellow/red. Either that or there is still moisture in the ground from those excessive rains late last winter.

The grass in the fields is thin around here compared to other years. So it's probably means less of a crop for the farmers. It looks like the land will get a good soaking between Sunday and Tuesday now.

Oneiric 3 · 13-06-2020 1:11pm

Latest model total rainfall forecast out to Tuesday midnight does show that the focus of the showers will primarily be over the western third of the country tomorrow and Monday, and over the eastern half Tuesday and Wednesday:

but it seems increasingly like some us in the likes of NE Galway/ Roscommon and that sort of area could be waiting another another while yet for a decent drop. Given the nature of showers though they can and probably will pop up randomly in any region over the next few days, but I get the feeling that I'll have to continue watering my little plants for another while yet, which is a small concern compared to those of farmers in the region who really do need the rain at this stage.

Neddyusa · 13-06-2020 2:11pm

Gonzo wrote: »

I know we had 3 fairly dry months in a row but the talk of drought is probably overblown a bit. We had 8 months of deluges before the dry spell started. The land here was saturated till at least mid April before things started to dry out and by May the grass was starting to turn slightly yellow. Grass is back as green as ever here now with all the cold, cloud and frequent bursts of rain since Tuesday/Wednesday. The soil moisture deficient is still on the low side but the gardens now look back to normal.

IF we hadn't all those downpours from August 2019 to February 2020, this dry spell could have had a far more serious drought without 8 months of deluges to soften the blow from lack of rain during Spring.

13.1mm of rain now for Dunsany up to the 12th of June. The mean is 71.5mm so still a bit to go for the deficit to recover. We've had several mm of rain yesterday so I expect that total to rise a bit by tomorrow.

Not sure Meath or Dublin will see much in the way of rain between now and next weekend, from here on the midlands, west and south will take the brunt of the showers and rainfall over the next few days.

Certainly not overblown from a farming point of view.
It might seem so to those in coastal areas
Its been the driest spring on record followed by a first half of June with 30% of normal rainfall.

Rain from last August (or even February) is no use except on very heavy clay or peat soils. Given our climate, most productive farming takes place on free draining soils. So it's a pretty big deal.

And despite all the talk of forecast rain - it's still coming from an easterly and so basically Fantasy Island for the most drought affected areas (from South East Mayo to Kilkenny)

Neddyusa · 13-06-2020 2:27pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

Certainly not overblown from a farming point of view.
It might seem so to those in coastal areas
Its been the driest spring on record followed by a first half of June with 30% of normal rainfall.

Rain from last August (or even February) is no use except on very heavy clay or peat soils. Given our climate, most productive farming takes place on free draining soils. So it's a pretty big deal.

And despite all the talk of forecast rain - it's still coming from an easterly and so basically Fantasy Island for the most drought affected areas (from South East Mayo to Kilkenny)

If you take Oneirics map at face value, the most drought affected area (circled red) is still forecast for lower than normal rainfall over the next week - so SMD will continue to increase.

Farmer2017 · 13-06-2020 2:49pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

If you take Oneirics map at face value, the most drought affected area (circled red) is still forecast for lower than normal rainfall over the next week - so SMD will continue to increase.

Very very little rain in the midlands field are red. We need a lot rain. Is there much forecast and any sign of a decent breakdown coming. Only difference this week and last it lot more cloudy

Neddyusa · 13-06-2020 4:18pm

Farmer2017 wrote: »

Very very little rain in the midlands field are red. We need a lot rain. Is there much forecast and any sign of a decent breakdown coming. Only difference this week and last it lot more cloudy

Slightly more for you than last week over the next few days.
But because there will be thundery showers you might get nothing while 10km up the road gets an inch from a downpour.
Signs are for more general rain towards next weekend, but as always that's too far away to be sure of.

RobertKK · 13-06-2020 6:18pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

Slightly more for you than last week over the next few days.
But because there will be thundery showers you might get nothing while 10km up the road gets an inch from a downpour.
Signs are for more general rain towards next weekend, but as always that's too far away to be sure of.

Yeah the thunderstorms formed near where I live but only got 0.4mm and the total for the day at 1.8mm.

It is like the settled spell doesn't want to end as what we are getting is not really a break in the dry spell.
Some have gotten rain but a lot of places so far very little.

nacho libre · 13-06-2020 9:16pm

Yeah these thundery showers coming from the east can be hit and miss. So it is possible some places in the west and south could escape altogether over the next couple of days, but i think a lot of places will see some heavy showers, but it probably won't be enough to satisfy farmers.

The Atlantic has to break through at some stage, but if the long range forecasts are to be believed it won't be for too long.

Oneiric 3 · 13-06-2020 9:50pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

If you take Oneirics map at face value, the most drought affected area (circled red) is still forecast for lower than normal rainfall over the next week - so SMD will continue to increase.

A slight more hope on the last model run that these showers might affect more areas over the next few days, but as always, the nature of showers and all of that..

Danzy · 13-06-2020 9:54pm

This feels like a hiatus in the drought more than a break. Savage rain here for an hour, little left the fields, they are dry as sponges.

Gonzo · 13-06-2020 10:19pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

A slight more hope on the last model run that these showers might affect more areas over the next few days, but as always, the nature of showers and all of that..

this evenings ECM is certainly wetter with no ridge second half of next week and heavy showers continuing throughout the week. Most of the other models still going for the ridge from Wednesday evening to Saturday afternoon so will have to see where the ECM goes with this tomorrow.

pauldry · 13-06-2020 10:44pm

Still 12mm of rain in Sligo for June

Grass very yellow in places now and even Lough Gill has dry patches at shoreline that should be underwater as does Garavogue

RobertKK · 14-06-2020 12:58am

Thought I was about to get a direct hit from the thunderstorm that is nearby for some good rain, might get a little as I am just on the edge of it.
Luck has to change soon...

Mortelaro · 14-06-2020 11:02am

Raining again here now
Thank you Irish sea for your service but please think of others now
June total has now hit 40mm

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1272103831493644288?s=19

Neddyusa · 14-06-2020 12:37pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

Raining again here now
Thank you Irish sea for your service but please think of others now
June total has now hit 40mm

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1272103831493644288?s=19

If this keeps up for a few more weeks Mortelaro, you'll get to feel like a West Clare farmer

nacho libre · 14-06-2020 5:18pm

Yet again we seem to be in a dry slot that has escaped the thunderstorms so far.
There actually has been little rain over the past eight days. The breakdown has not happened here yet.

RobertKK · 14-06-2020 5:54pm

This is my rainfall for my location north of Kilkenny city.

Dep.   Max        Days of Rain
              From   Obs.           >=
 YR MO Total  Norm   Day Date  0.2  2.0 20.0
---------------------------------------------
 20  1  55.2   0.0   9.6  13    24    8    0
 20  2 133.8   0.0  18.4   9    27   18    0
 20  3  40.8   0.0  10.6   9    17    7    0
 20  4  32.0   0.0  15.0   5    14    3    0
 20  5  26.0   0.0  15.2   9     8    3    0
 20  6   9.2   0.0   2.8  10     8    1    0
 20  7
 20  8
 20  9
 20 10
 20 11
 20 12
---------------------------------------------
       297.0   0.0  18.4  Feb   98   40    0

0.6mm today and mostly blue skies...

108mm in the last 106 days.

Igotadose · 14-06-2020 5:56pm

Dingle peninsula soaking with thunder and some places lightning all day. Still raining fairly heavily right now, but it's fitful. Filling the water butt just fine...

nacho libre · 14-06-2020 6:03pm

RobertKK wrote: »

This is my rainfall for my location north of Kilkenny city.

Dep.   Max        Days of Rain
              From   Obs.           >=
 YR MO Total  Norm   Day Date  0.2  2.0 20.0
---------------------------------------------
 20  1  55.2   0.0   9.6  13    24    8    0
 20  2 133.8   0.0  18.4   9    27   18    0
 20  3  40.8   0.0  10.6   9    17    7    0
 20  4  32.0   0.0  15.0   5    14    3    0
 20  5  26.0   0.0  15.2   9     8    3    0
 20  6   9.2   0.0   2.8  10     8    1    0
 20  7
 20  8
 20  9
 20 10
 20 11
 20 12
---------------------------------------------
       297.0   0.0  18.4  Feb   98   40    0

0.6mm today and mostly blue skies...

108mm in the last 106 days.

That last stat is grim. I know it proably sounds daft to those who are looking out at soaked ground, but we need the Atlantic back to ensure everyone who really needs rain gets it.

Mortelaro · 14-06-2020 6:04pm

Neddyusa wrote: »

If this keeps up for a few more weeks Mortelaro, you'll get to feel like a West Clare farmer

Ha!
An extra 4.3mm today
Total now 43.9mm for june
Got absolutely soaked working out in it today thanks to a tear in the wet gear

Rainfall/Drought Watch 2020

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