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"I helped burn cork"

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    #32
    jonniebgood1
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    CDfm wrote: »
    The rugby club Cork Con is a Cork Institution.

    I had'nt put the 2 together. The obvious link is there
    The Cork Constitution was a well read daily newspaper in the last decade of the 1800's. It did not publish on Sundays, thus allowing the staff to be free on Saturday afternoons. Members of staff formed a cricket club, but cricket is a summer pursuit and obviously prompted by the enjoyment derived from their summer activities, thoughts turned to a winter activity and rugby football in particular. Some of the staff were very proficient in several sports, not least one David Kilroy, who was an all-rounder in the true sense. With the cricket club firmly established, the rugby club came into existence in 1892.
    http://www.corkcon.ie/clubHistory.php -funny they don't explain their Unionist roots!!! or maybe not!
    The papers publication stopped after Independence.


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    #33
    jonniebgood1
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    To follow up an earlier post I have found more specific information regarding the type of payments made by Britain for the damage done in the burning.
    ........City Hall, a limestone structure which replaced the old City Hall, destroyed by British troops on 11th December 1920 in a event called 'The burning of Cork', which took place during the country’s War of Independence. The foundation stone of the new City Hall, which was build at the same place as the old building, was laid by the Executive Council of the State, Mr. de Valera, on 9 July 1932.

    The complete cost of this new building was provided by the British Government in the 1930s as a gesture of reconciliation. The City Hall consists of three sections, two wings comprising the Municipal Offices and an assembly hall, capable of seating up to 1,300 people. In March 1935 the first staff members of a few departments of the city administration moved into the western wing of the building. The first council meeting was held in City Hall on the 24th April 1935. The building was then officially opened by the Irish President on 8th September 1936.
    http://www.citymayors.com/cityhalls/cork-cityhall.html

    Not a part of the 1923 compensation act then. A gesture of reconciliation is a bit unusual particularly as it was built at the time of the economic war with Britain. I wonder why they would have done this at that time?


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    #34
    jonniebgood1
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    Documentary from 1960 with accounts from eye-witnesses on the night Cork was burned.

    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/radio-documentary-the-burning-of-cork-ireland.html


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    bitter
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    jonniebgood1 wrote: »
    Documentary from 1960 with accounts from eye-witnesses on the night Cork was burned.

    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/radio-documentary-the-burning-of-cork-ireland.html


    That accent is horrible on the ears:mad:

    It must be remembered that only a small section of cork was burned down and not the whole town.Propaganda has played a role in forming most Irish minds as it does to most others minds.It does seem that cork was a unionist town as the term "rebels" was actually unionist in truth.


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    Denerick
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    bitter wrote: »
    That accent is horrible on the ears:mad:

    It must be remembered that only a small section of cork was burned down and not the whole town.Propaganda has played a role in forming most Irish minds as it does to most others minds.It does seem that cork was a unionist town as the term "rebels" was actually unionist in truth.

    What exactly do you mean by 'Unionist town'? During the War of Independence there were at least four groups: Republicans, sympathetic Republicans (Helped the lads on the run etc.), neutrals (Just wanted to go on with day to day life) and Unionists (Actively opposed to Republicans) Most people fell into the 'neutral' camp, though many were probably sympathetic to the IRA, they just mightn't have offered any actual aid in any shape or form. I doubt you could call Cork a 'Unionist Town'.


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    PatsytheNazi
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    bitter wrote: »
    That accent is horrible on the ears:mad:

    It must be remembered that only a small section of cork was burned down and not the whole town.Propaganda has played a role in forming most Irish minds as it does to most others minds.It does seem that cork was a unionist town as the term "rebels" was actually unionist in truth.
    The commerial centre of the city was destroyed and drunken British soldiers looted the shops etc Firemen who tried to put out the fire had their hoses cut and were threatened to be shot. An act of gross terrorism if ever their was. And neither was it was the first or last time Cork city suffered such "peacekeeping" at the hands of the British army.

    And if Cork was such a unionist town, how many unionists did it return in the 1918 election ?


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    bitter
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    Denerick wrote: »
    What exactly do you mean by 'Unionist town'? During the War of Independence there were at least four groups: Republicans, sympathetic Republicans (Helped the lads on the run etc.), neutrals (Just wanted to go on with day to day life) and Unionists (Actively opposed to Republicans) Most people fell into the 'neutral' camp, though many were probably sympathetic to the IRA, they just mightn't have offered any actual aid in any shape or form. I doubt you could call Cork a 'Unionist Town'.


    cork had more Orange Lodges than anywhere else at the time, like a lot of Irish people at the time they were quite happy in the Union & being British and then suddenly become Republican & anti-British after 1921. People are fickle...


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    PatsytheNazi
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    bitter wrote: »
    cork had more Orange Lodges than anywhere else at the time, like a lot of Irish people at the time they were quite happy in the Union & being British and then suddenly become Republican & anti-British after 1921. People are fickle...
    :rolleyes: ' Sigh ' And if Cork was such a unionist town, how many unionists did it return in the 1918 election or indeed other elections before it ?


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