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If you could change one thing about Ireland...

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  • #252
    Marhay70
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    davidglanza wrote: »
    My point is your already paying tax to commute.

    So why not take away the lump sum every 3months that people have to come up with to tax there car.
    Put a tax on fuel and then your only spending what you can afford without the worry of getting stopped by gardai for not having a motor tax disc..

    Most of europe already do it...

    And my point is that you have two people working in the same office, factory etc and driving similar cars the only difference being that one is forced by circumstances beyond his control to commute 60km to work while the other can walk, cycle or use public transport how is it fair that one is charged motor tax to get to work while the other isn't'
    I wish people would stop comparing Ireland with the rest of Europe, Ireland is nothing like the rest of Europe. Most of the rest of Europe have competent national and local administration, proper planning, decent far reaching public transport etc., etc, etc. Ireland is a basket case.


  • #253
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    And my point is that you have two people working in the same office, factory etc and driving similar cars the only difference being that one is forced by circumstances beyond his control to commute 60km to work while the other can walk, cycle or use public transport how is it fair that one is charged motor tax to get to work while the other isn't'
    I wish people would stop comparing Ireland with the rest of Europe, Ireland is nothing like the rest of Europe. Most of the rest of Europe have competent national and local administration, proper planning, decent far reaching public transport etc., etc, etc. Ireland is a basket case.

    As Gay Byrne ( Irelands leading media person for decades) once famously said, we wanted our independence, we have to pay for it. That was in in the eighties after many decades of poverty and huge emigration to Britain, and before all the Rec/ EU handoutkicked in, and before the Americans really started using Ireland as tax haven for their companies.


  • #254
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    janfebmar wrote: »
    As Gay Byrne ( Irelands leading media person for decades) once famously said, we wanted our independence, we have to pay for it. That was in in the eighties after many decades of poverty and huge emigration to Britain, and before all the Rec/ EU handoutkicked in, and before the Americans really started using Ireland as tax haven for their companies.
    Byrne was such a ****ing expert he allowed himself to be ripped off not once but twice.
    Big fish in a small pool, conservative anti union scrote who favoured the poor but happy for everyone else approach


  • #255
    Dublin Spur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    zero tolerance on anti-social behavior and much tougher sentencing - life means life - never concurant, always consecutive would be a start

    the focus needs to be on punishment and public safety and not rehabilitation


  • #256
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Edgware wrote: »
    Byrne was such a ****ing expert he allowed himself to be ripped off not once but twice.
    Big fish in a small pool, conservative anti union scrote who favoured the poor but happy for everyone else approach

    That is another negative thing about Ireland, the way people knock people like Gay Byrne who started from humble beginnings but done well for themselves and now lives in Howth. The begrudgers


  • #257
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    janfebmar wrote: »
    That is another negative thing about Ireland, the way people knock people like Gay Byrne who started from humble beginnings but done well for themselves and now lives in Howth. The begrudgers[/qbegrudg
    He came from a humble background but was well able to patronise anyone with a Dublin or country working class accent. Despite what he tried to portray he was a pro Catholic Blueshirt establishment ****


  • #258
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Edgware wrote: »
    He came from a humble background but was well able to patronise anyone with a Dublin or country working class accent. Despite what he tried to portray he was a pro Catholic Blueshirt establishment ****

    He spoke properly. That is another thing many people despise about Ireland, a lot of people have very poor elocution and the worst offenders often attack those who can speak properly.


  • #259
    rgmmg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    The weather, think France has the best all round climate, I'd happily change ours for theirs.

    Which one? It has 5.


  • #260
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Edgware wrote: »
    ...he was a pro Catholic Blueshirt establishment ****

    You say that like it's a bad thing! :pac:


  • #261
    Marhay70
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    janfebmar wrote: »
    As Gay Byrne ( Irelands leading media person for decades) once famously said, we wanted our independence, we have to pay for it. That was in in the eighties after many decades of poverty and huge emigration to Britain, and before all the Rec/ EU handoutkicked in, and before the Americans really started using Ireland as tax haven for their companies.

    Who's this "we" of whom you speak?


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  • #262
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    Who's this "we" of whom you speak?

    I assume he meant "people in Ireland".


  • #263
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    I’d saw off Norn Iron and float it up beside Greenland.


  • #264
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    I’d saw off Norn Iron and float it up beside Greenland.

    Why not just sink it ?


  • #265
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Why not just sink it ?

    That would work too. Excellent idea.


  • #266
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Stick it to Scotland where it belongs.


  • #267
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Stick it to Scotland where it belongs.

    What did Scotland ever do on you :)


  • #268
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    I would tweak the weather a bit that's all.


  • #269
    Ragnar Lothbrok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    I’d saw off Norn Iron and float it up beside Greenland.
    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    Why not just sink it ?
    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    That would work too. Excellent idea.
    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Stick it to Scotland where it belongs.
    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    What did Scotland ever do on you :)

    I would like to see an Ireland where this kind of ignorant BS didn't exist.


  • #270
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »
    I would like to see an Ireland where this kind of ignorant BS didn't exist.

    Everyone doesn't have to like every other country in the world.


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  • #271
    Ragnar Lothbrok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Everyone doesn't have to like every other country in the world.

    Another country? I refer you to my previous post.

    I'm really not in the mood for this kind of rubbish on a Friday morning.


  • #272
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »
    Another country? I refer you to my previous post.

    I'm really not in the mood for this kind of rubbish on a Friday morning.

    Facts facts facts. I'm not in the mood for someone that can't deal with them myself.


  • #273
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Dublin Spur wrote: »
    zero tolerance on anti-social behavior and much tougher sentencing - life means life - never concurant, always consecutive would be a start

    the focus needs to be on punishment and public safety and not rehabilitation

    There are studies about harsher prison sentences as long as your arm - the broad consensus is that longer sentences and tougher prison conditions are more about sating voters emotional needs and that in all likelihood, such measures might actually increase crime.

    A person will commit assault or murder because they are disordered, not because they know a conservative politician has passed tougher sentencing legislation - few criminals think about deterrence when committing their crimes.


    https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2017/11/07/locking-up-more-people-does-not-reduce-crime

    The only model that has been genuinely proven to reduce crime is the Norwegian model. They went from recidivism rates of upwards of 91% to now in the low 20s (among the lowest in the world).


    So it begs the question, with the evidence in front of you, do you actually want lower crime, or do you want to feel like something is being done about crime?


  • #274
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Stick it to Scotland where it belongs.

    How do the Irish in Northern Ireland belong to Scotland?


  • #275
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How do the Irish in Northern Ireland belong to Scotland?

    Ian Paisley once said ""I am proud to be an Ulsterman, but I am also proud of my Irish roots". He also said he was an Irishman. I do not think people like him belong in Scotland, that would be like saying some of the people in Sicily belong in mainland Italy.


  • #276
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Increase the capacity of public transport and have it free for everyone.
    Spend the money that'll be going out of the country on carbon fines instead subbing public transport.


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  • #277
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Say my name wrote: »
    Increase the capacity of public transport and have it free for everyone.
    .

    Did not work in eastern Europe or Cuba and will not work here.


  • #278
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    janfebmar wrote: »
    Did not work in eastern Europe or Cuba and will not work here.

    They never had to pay €150m carbon fines to the EU though for doing nothing to reduce emissions.


  • #279
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Say my name wrote: »
    They never had to pay €150m carbon fines to the EU though for doing nothing to reduce emissions.

    Peanuts compared to other government expenditure eg on public sector pay and pensions, the €7,000,000,000 annual interest bill on the governments national debt etc.


  • #280
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    janfebmar wrote: »
    Peanuts compared to other government expenditure eg on public sector pay and pensions, the €7,000,000,000 annual interest bill on the governments national debt etc.

    Seems pointless though paying out fines to the EU when there's a chance to reduce or eliminate that and help the citizens at the same time.


  • #281
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Say my name wrote: »
    Increase the capacity of public transport and have it free for everyone.

    When the British were running things here there far a far higher relative capacity of public transport.

    From google, quote : "At its peak in 1920, Ireland had 5,600 km (3,480 mi) of railway, now only about one third of this remains. A large area around the border area has no rail service."
    It was cheap then, to enable it to be used.

    Maybe you hark back to the days of a large rail network?


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  • #282
    Pretzill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Cute whoreism - still rife today. Employ more Garda, and a zero tolerance system on drugs and the crime it goes along with. For starters...


  • #283
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I'd relax the rules ....too much red tape. ...crazy.

    Violent stuff tighten up tho...


  • #284
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    janfebmar wrote: »
    When the British were running things here there far a far higher relative capacity of public transport.

    From google, quote : "At its peak in 1920, Ireland had 5,600 km (3,480 mi) of railway, now only about one third of this remains. A large area around the border area has no rail service."
    It was cheap then, to enable it to be used.

    Maybe you hark back to the days of a large rail network?
    Hark to days of some any sort of public transport.
    Crazy decisions being talked about of closing rail lines even today such as the Rosslare line to Dublin with poor infrastructure for parking cars in areas such as enniscorthy if anyone did wish to park the car and get the train to Dublin.


  • #285
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    How do the Irish in Northern Ireland belong to Scotland?

    Because most of them are pure Scots. Even a lot of the ones that don't think they are.


  • #286
    Mugser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Mugser


    Long term unemployment benefit recipients; reduce there payments by 10% every year they're on it after 5yrs. GET A JOB! Plenty of recycling to be sorted through! Career dole bludgers grind my gears with their 'entitled to' attitude. You may qualify for certain things, but not entitled to anything.:mad::mad:

    RTE; bin it! An relic of the late 20th century. A money pit

    People following UK (or other non-Irish based) soccer teams when they's absolutely zero affiliation with said team or even the place that team is based.... just why? Don't get it!...... As for folks wearing XXXXXXL soccer jerseys to go to the pub and shout at a TV? hmmmmm.:pac:

    Drink driving penalties. If you're caught, then you should be put off the road, Instantly, and for life. Car sold and the proceeds to a fund to help those who've been injured or families who've lost loved ones as a result of stupid drink-drivers. Doesn't matter if it's the night or the following day. No second chances, no excuses, no Healy-Rae bull!

    Dacia cars, jeez they're hideous looking yokes altogether, and they're bloody everywhere!.:P


  • #287
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Dublin Spur wrote: »
    zero tolerance on anti-social behavior and much tougher sentencing - life means life - never concurant, always consecutive would be a start

    the focus needs to be on punishment and public safety and not rehabilitation
    concurrent sentencing is basically a 'buy one get one free' deal for crimes, its actually unbelievable that it exists.


  • #288
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    yes. those children's taxes will pay for services when you are retired

    This is assuming these children actually get jobs and not follow in their feckless parents' footsteps when they're older.


  • #289
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Because most of them are pure Scots. Even a lot of the ones that don't think they are.

    And a lot of those pesky white people who went to America 300 and 400 years are pure European. Even the ones who dont think so.


  • #290
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Mugser wrote: »
    Long term unemployment benefit recipients; reduce there payments by 10% every year they're on it after 5yrs. GET A JOB! Plenty of recycling to be sorted through! Career dole bludgers grind my gears with their 'entitled to' attitude. You may qualify for certain things, but not entitled to anything.:mad::mad:

    RTE; bin it! An relic of the late 20th century. A money pit

    People following UK (or other non-Irish based) soccer teams when they's absolutely zero affiliation with said team or even the place that team is based.... just why? Don't get it!...... As for folks wearing XXXXXXL soccer jerseys to go to the pub and shout at a TV? hmmmmm.:pac:

    Drink driving penalties. If you're caught, then you should be put off the road, Instantly, and for life. Car sold and the proceeds to a fund to help those who've been injured or families who've lost loved ones as a result of stupid drink-drivers. Doesn't matter if it's the night or the following day. No second chances, no excuses, no Healy-Rae bull!

    Dacia cars, jeez they're hideous looking yokes altogether, and they're bloody everywhere!.:P

    Why would any employer want to give a job to people like that?

    And you are only supposed to change one thing.


  • #291
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    And you are only supposed to change one thing.

    One thing would be restoring our public transport / rail system to what it was 100 years ago.
    Quote "At its peak in 1920, Ireland had 5,600 km (3,480 mi) of railway, now only about one third of this remains. A large area around the border area has no rail service."

    We used to have a great tram service in Dublin too, one of the best in the world at the time. If our rail service was restored and economically viable it would be great.


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  • #292
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Because most of them are pure Scots. Even a lot of the ones that don't think they are.


    Hmmm. By that line of reasoning, a lot of the Scots in Scotland are pure Irish - even the ones who don't think they are.....


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