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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    that awful sound you can here is trump supporters scraping the current bottom of the barrel. tomorrow they will somehow dig down deeper

    It’s just semantics don’t you know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Anyone good at maths here? What is 200k as a fraction of 330 million?

    I'm guessing you think 9/11 was just a bad day at the office.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's because Biden is that bad, Trump should be dead and buried according to many people but they were probably the same people that were laughing when they were asked if he would in 2016.

    I would say it more shows that a portion of the US audience have a taste for dramatic showmanship and even though many are potentially aware that Trump is lying, they simply don't care. That says a lot about certain parts of US society and none of it is positive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    salmocab wrote: »
    Is this it now? It’s only 200,000 people! This is an unexpected spin I have to say.

    Trump himself set the precedent

    "Yes, people are dying, It is what it is"

    Donald J Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I'm guessing you think 9/11 was just a bad day at the office.
    It was for 3,000 or so people. That's 0.001% of the population in case you were wondering.

    Bizzarre how they make a big song and dance about it every year when the anniversary rolls around


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    I would say it more shows that a portion of the US audience have a taste for dramatic showmanship and even though many are potentially aware that Trump is lying, they simply don't care. That says a lot about certain parts of US society and none of it is positive.

    That is part of the problem though the ridiculing that some Trump supporters get does not help in trying to convince them why they should vote for Biden over Trump. It's basically fvck you if you're voting for Trump and you're human garbage.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Those people were murdered, have some respect.

    Wouldn't exactly say you're being respectful of the dead by attempting to spin covid as a success for Trump..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Omg, white supremecist.

    EiiDXj0UcAAUXP5?format=jpg&name=medium

    That of course is using the logic of the left. Im, sure there will be outrage over it :rolleyes:


    C'mon Man.

    Holy sh1t he looks weak there. What age is he now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Holy sh1t he looks weak there. What age is he now?

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Anyone good at maths here? What is 200k as a fraction of 330 million?


    It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    I see Mitt Romney is going to be backing Trump's supreme court nominee. Does this mean Barrett is all but guaranteed the job? I'm assuming she's going to be his pick but the official announcement will be on Saturday, cant wait!

    Major boost for Trump as Romney backs vote on supreme court nomination

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/22/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-nominee-vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

    2 people died of Ebola in the the US and Trump called for Obama to resign.

    4 people died in Benghazi and the Republicans conducted 6 investigations and found nothing.

    But I guess 200,000 dead is just one of those things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I see Mitt Romney is going to be backing Trump's supreme court nominee. Does this mean Barrett is all but guaranteed the job? I'm assuming she's going to be his pick but the official announcement will be on Saturday, cant wait!

    Major boost for Trump as Romney backs vote on supreme court nomination

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/22/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-nominee-vote

    Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,125 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?

    He must be one of those feminists.

    Eager for another woman Supreme Court Judge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Danzy wrote: »
    He must be one of those feminists.

    Eager for another woman Supreme Court Judge.

    I guess that makes The Donald a feminist also. Who'd have thunk it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

    I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

    That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    2 people died of Ebola in the the US and Trump called for Obama to resign.

    4 people died in Benghazi and the Republicans conducted 6 investigations and found nothing.

    But I guess 200,000 dead is just one of those things.

    "Yes, people are dying..... it is what it is"

    Donald J Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?

    Owning libs, it’s all they care about anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Omg, white supremecist.



    That of course is using the logic of the left. Im, sure there will be outrage over it :rolleyes:


    C'mon Man.


    Context dude.


    Is he responding to a question or is he at a party with known neo-nazis?


    Sort of like hailing a cab on the street versus hailing a cab at a nuremburg rally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭eire4


    It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

    Right now per capita the US is 10th worst in the world but given how badly they are doing vis a v the countries worse then them right now they will likely shoot up to about 5th worst within the next month.

    Only San Marino, followed by Peru Belgium and Brazil are likely to be worse off in terms of deaths per capita by the end of October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

    That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

    Which countries? And of those countries, how many of them were as forewarned as Trump's USA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,220 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Have to hand to Trump in that he knows the value of showmanship. Listening to Donie o' Sullivan on Eamon Dunphy's podcast and he was talking about the rallies - Trump's team was playing 'In the Air Tonight' over the PA as Airforce One was flying in to land, and nearly had it timed to the point that Trump hits the stage right as that famous drum pattern comes in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

    They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭eire4


    I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

    That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

    By the end of October the only countries that are not poor or "dysfunctional" that will have worse death tolls per capita then the US will be San Marino and Belgium that is it end of story. San Marino is a tiny country with a tiny population so really Belgium that's it and at the rate the US is projected to continue to see deaths through the end of the year as against Belgium the Americans may even overtake them too in a few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭eire4


    Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

    They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.

    Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    eire4 wrote: »
    Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.

    No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,588 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    salmocab wrote: »
    No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.

    Their unwillingness to create a welfare state and universal healthcare suggests they really don't care about anyone other than themselves.

    Their history and culture backs this up.

    I knew from day one that Americans, all Americans, wouldn't be bothered by the loss of life.

    People who think otherwise are deluding themselves about America.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    have you actually watched any of the clips of trump speaking? rambling and incoherent are the words that spring to mind. did you watch the two town halls? biden was able to answer coherently. from trumps replies you couldn't work out what the question was.

    Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

    Coming out with weird insults or name calling is not debating. Biden on the other hand has an incredibly good reputation for his ability on this front and I can't see Trump standing much of a chance. Particularly since Trump has a reputation of bullying the press for just asking questions, he basically is the antithesis of leadership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly.

    The only people that think this are his poorly educated, easily amused base. The rest of us don't find his insults and crass behaviour entertaining.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

    Just how many press conferences has Trump walked off in a huff because he couldn't answer basic questions? How many times has his syphilitic drug addled brain glitched while attempting to deliver any sort of coherent message? Trump is a third rate conman who is lucky his his core supporters are just dumb enough to fall for his grift. He doesn't really even have to try that hard for them. When he crashes and burns during the debates his core won't see it in that light. It will either be another glorious victory for the leader or the disaster will be down to those underhanded commie democrats giving Biden the answers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,049 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Why did House Dems agree to fund this government? Honest question. Just got an alert about it and frankly, I'm baffled given the politics (the nicest word to use for it) around the SCOTUS vacancy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Overheal wrote: »
    Why did House Dems agree to fund this government? Honest question. Just got an alert about it and frankly, I'm baffled given the politics (the nicest word to use for it) around the SCOTUS vacancy?

    I'd imagine so as to not give Trump the rallying cry of 'they want to stop government' which, bizarrely, is what a lot of conservatives would want but those guys are already voting Trump.

    Maybe the Dems figured it wouldn't play well with borderline voters. Maybe someone else has more insight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Joe the homewrecker

    Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

    Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Oh Joe :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GPD-0aMVQ

    I'm beginning to think it may be funnier if he wins than if the Donald does again :pac: Either way America is going to be a basket case for years to come.

    Debates will be epic
    Fact check: Trump campaign posts another dishonestly snipped Biden quote to make him sound confused



    So it's another edited video. Were you aware of that when you posted it? Did you even bother to check ?I don't hold out much hope of you replying to this based on past precedent, to be honest....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    biko wrote: »
    Joe the homewrecker

    Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

    Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html
    Ignoring the fact that they've now been together for 45 years, how is this remotely relevant to the 2020 Presidential election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    biko wrote: »
    Joe the homewrecker

    Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

    Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

    According to an article in the New York Post............

    What we do know beyond a doubt, Trump paid off a porn star so that she wouldn't reveal details of his infidelity while his wife was pregnant.

    The same man who said the following,
    Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

    Bush: "Whatever you want."

    Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Ignoring the fact that they've now been together for 45 years, how is this remotely relevant to the 2020 Presidential election?

    What we do know beyond a doubt, Trump paid off a porn star so that she wouldn't reveal details of his infidelity while his wife was pregnant.


    ....Jesus have we gotten to this level already! What a rotten political system!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    biko wrote: »
    Joe the homewrecker

    Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

    Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

    Not even at the bottom of the barrel anymore, through the barrel and heading for the earths core.

    Imagine trying to take the high ground about extra marital affairs when it comes to Trump :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Not even at the bottom of the barrel anymore, through the barrel and heading for the earths core.

    Imagine trying to take the high ground about extra marital affairs when it comes to Trump :pac:


    For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    biko wrote: »
    Joe the homewrecker

    Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

    Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

    You really don't want to go there


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

    The type of voter this will appeal to are already 100% behind Trump.

    Trump the alpha male who can barely walk down a ramp.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

    The type of voter this will appeal to are already 100% behind Trump.

    Trump the alpha male who can barely walk down a ramp.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Asked why he hasn't said anything about the 200,000 Americans who have died due to the coronavirus, Trump turns away from the reporter, without answering, and says, "Anybody else?"

    Disgusting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Asked why he hasn't said anything about the 200,000 Americans who have died due to the coronavirus, Trump turns away from the reporter, without answering, and says, "Anybody else?"

    Disgusting

    shur hes an arsehole


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,388 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    shur hes an arsehole

    I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
    He can’t ignore the questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,903 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
    He can’t ignore the questions.

    oh he probably will, he ll try explain how great he is, and has been over the last 4 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭francois


    I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
    He can’t ignore the questions.

    He'll say he did great because it wasn't 2 million, and the seals will clap it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.
    Does faking an injury so he can dodge the draft make him more alpha male too?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,633 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Battle of the septuagenarians thread spills on to the street.


    https://twitter.com/BrionMcClanahan/status/1308467251075526657

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



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