13 year old autistic boy shot 11 times by police...US

The only thing this proves Is that the training provided to police in the US is absolutely terrible.

suicide_circus wrote: »

If "defund the police" means "transfer some funding from the police to medical emergency services" then it's a terrible slogan for what it's trying to achieve.

Not just medical emergency services, other services too. Social workers etc.

But yeah, it is an awful slogan.

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

You saw a child murdered by the police so you decide to use it to push your agenda? That's disgraceful, frankly.

Any excuse for another "discussion" about race on CA. Taken over once all common sense has been lost by the kind of lads who teach their kids Covid-19 is a hoax and all Nigerians are scammers.

Fiery mutant wrote: »

The only thing this proves Is that the training provided to police in the US is absolutely terrible.

I'm not sure it's solely a training issue. I think there are a lot of power-hungry, trigger-happy, gun-fanatic angry men with a chip on their shoulder who are attracted to the police force in the US.

I don't think any amount of training so going to be able to prevent them from shooting their guns. It's what a lot of them have signed up for.

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Why would I complain about BLM protesting black people being murdered by the police?

As you know, he's suggesting that the only black lives that matter to BLM are the ones that are politically useful. Which is true.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Oh...

Ehhh you forgot to mention that she told police it was pellet gun and that police admit he wasnt armed when they shot him.

He was running away and wouldn't lie on the ground.

So many things wrong in that story.

If you had a difficult child here, the guards would be the last person you'd call to get them to an appointment.

The cops in the US seem programmed to go for the gun on every occasion. Probably because so many of them get away with its use. Surely any cop worth their salt should be able to have a child without resorting to their weapon?

But hey, no story out of America surprised me any more.

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

If BLM was really about ‘All Lives Matter’ as some claim, then BLM and BLM supporters would be all over this the same as they would be if he was black.

ALM will be all over it, no need for BLM, they have enough going on. ALM will be all over it, right?

Tell me how wrote: »

Because one agenda is trying to keep people alive

If it was confined to this then very few would have an issue but BLM's own manifesto (written by its Maxist founders) says otherwise.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I really don't get the point behind defunding the police. It see.a pretty obvious to me Thrt the police are woefully undertrained and probably understaffed.

There might be some tactically brilliant idea behind the activism to defunding the police, but I dont understand it.

That's a desperately sad video. I saw a scared boy with autism and a scared police officer with a gun and without a clue. More training couldn't hurt but ultimately theres no cure for stupid. It should be a well paid job because it's an important job and they should have competitive wages so they can pick clever candidates.

I didn’t watch the video.

But, to your first point. That’s why defund the police is such a bad slogan.

It’s more about funding the services needed to actually serve the people the police aren’t trained to, so you’re right they are undertrained.

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

There isn’t an ALM because people have been shamed into believing that even the saying ‘ALM’ is racist.

There was a thread on here where a moderator started a new thread with a long post about why ALM was racist.

I know, shocking. A lot of folks have been saying BLM is racist too. Some even saying that ALM is an ill-informed rebuttal to BLM and nothing more. Usually uttered by the ignorant or the racist, apparently.

cruizer101 wrote: »

The point is that over time funding has been removed from other services such as social services, mental health services, drug rehabilitation, etc, whilst funding for the police has increased.

Police have then been tasked with dealing with these issues when they do not have the appropriate training, police commisioners have actually raised this issue.
This results in police officers dealing with issues they have neither the training or motivation to deal with, as many officers are power hungry thugs.

Defund the police isn't the best slogan but if yo understand the meanign behind it it is a short slogan which all the best slogans are.

Yeah fair one. Sounds like they actually need to fund the other services they need. America is a sad place.

gary550 wrote: »

The police officer showed up to the scene knowing that there was a 13 year old boy who was having a mental crisis and had made threats that he had a gun and was going to shoot his mothers co worker.

The video doesn't show the lead up or what prompted the officer to shoot. Would it not be best to wait for an investigation and maybe look at the full unedited footage to make a more level evaluation of what took place?

The mother called the police because she needed help getting her son to hospital, the bit about the gun was secondary.

If the mother had another avenue to get help, someone actually trained to help people in distress, then the cops wouldn’t have been there at all.

I haven’t made any comment on the police’s actions in this specific case.

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Why would I complain about BLM protesting black people being murdered by the police?

Because there was no proof Floyd's death was motivated by racism, and there still isn't, yet the media and users like yourself on social media, used it to push YOUR agenda, which is of course, to paint the US Police as having systemic racism problem, which they of course do not.

The actions of BLM caused innocent people to die this year.

Sandor Clegane wrote: »

Firstly the child survived thankfully, you'd of known that if you'd have bothered to read the article.

My agenda was highlighting the fact police in the US don't just use disproportionate force on black people...how is that disgraceful?

I think a major issue is that police forces in the US favour heavy policing tactics, power trips and utilise excessive force, including bullets, with little provocation. These tendencies are magnified if they perceive their target as 'lesser' than them. People are likely to be deemed as lesser for a wide variety of reasons; maybe they are criminals, drug addicts, someone with mental health issues, or someone with a disability. The specific issue with regards to black people is that for racists someone being black can be enough for them to be deemed as 'lesser', regardless of anything else about them.

The underlying issue, that psychologically, police forces in America see themselves as 'policing' the population instead of serving them is what needs to be tackled, for the good of all Americans. It doesn't mean that black lives matter as a movement or idea is wrong, but to combat the issue of police brutality towards black people effectively the focus needs to be on more than racism. There needs to be a sea change in how the (highly disparate) police and law enforcement organisations organise and operate.