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Sean Mac Eoin

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  • 16-08-2010 1:48am
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    tomasocarthaigh
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭


    Im looking for any photos, newspaper clippings (scan and post) and the words to any of the ballads about Sean "Tipper" Mac Eoin, the rebel leader.

    Before independence he was known as John Joseph Mc Keown.

    We have our own stories about him as well.
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    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users Posts: 7,936 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    send a request to the longford leader paper. they've loads of photos of him printed over the years.


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    walrusgumble
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    Check the local library in Longford. There was some noise recently about his family home being sold/knocked down. He was a TD for Longford (Fine Gael) for a considerable period of time, I think he was Minister for Justice. Librarians in Athlone might get you in contact with the archives crowd in Athlone Barracks, were he commanded at the time of the truce (and civil war)

    http://www.longfordleader.ie/whats-on-guide/Ballinalee-Ambush-featured-in-new.5955801.jp

    http://www.longford.ie/longford_towns.aspx?id=564


    http://www.longfordleader.ie/news/Objection-to-plans-for-historic.3113073.jp

    http://www.generalmichaelcollins.com/Treaty_Documents/The_Treaty_Debate_1921_17.htm


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    Denerick
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    He also ran against Dev for President in the 50s, I think.


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    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭testicle


    Denerick wrote: »
    He also ran against Dev for President in the 50s, I think.

    1959. And against Sean T in 1948.


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    Fuinseog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Farrell wrote a biography on him


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    johndervilla
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭johndervilla


    Hi, check out my new web site seanmaceoin.ie. So far it's a collection of images, documents and video.


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    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    johndervilla wrote: »
    Hi, check out my new web site seanmaceoin.ie. So far it's a collection of images, documents and video.

    Good site. The picture of him in London with Dan Breen is on it, although the label is surely wrong (as it is on the original site to which you link): 'Sean McEoin and Dan Breen during the Pact talks 1920' Surely 1921, given the Treaty was on December 6 1921?

    Also, did he not always spell his name Seán, rather than Sean? In the documents you link the fada is there, as it is on legislation he signed as Minister for Justice, for example. Similarly, as it's in Irish there should be a space between Mac and Eoin: Seán Mac Eoin, rather than Sean MacEoin. Surprisingly, Wikipedia spells his name properly.

    Well done again.

    PS: To get the fadaí quickly, press 'alt', 'ctrl' and the vowel at the same time for small vowels: áéíóú. For capitals, press 'alt', 'ctrl', the shift key and the vowel at the same time: ÁÉÍÓÚ.


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    tomasocarthaigh
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭tomasocarthaigh


    Thanks to all for the replies and info. Being from Ballinalee - well being of a family from Ballinalee should I say - myself, Ive always had an avid intrest in him, though personally would not have supported his politics.

    We have many family legends of him, and of his father when his father was subject of a boycott in the village. Being a writer Ive written a few poems on the man and stories around him on my Ballinalee poems.


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    johndervilla
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭johndervilla


    Thank you for the great feedback. That's exactly what I want. You are quite correct on the spelling of Mac Eoin. Certainly Sean did sign it in that way. In fact my grandfather Seamus Mac Eoin (Sean's younger brother), did sign his name that way also. Some family members still use this spelling and others have dropped the space. I guess the web site should have the original spelling. Regarding the fada, I did not know how to do this so thanks for that information too. I will also change the caption on the photo. Thanks again!


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    Seanchai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    johndervilla wrote: »
    Thank you for the great feedback. That's exactly what I want. You are quite correct on the spelling of Mac Eoin. Certainly Sean did sign it in that way. In fact my grandfather Seamus Mac Eoin (Sean's younger brother), did sign his name that way also. Some family members still use this spelling and others have dropped the space. I guess the web site should have the original spelling. Regarding the fada, I did not know how to do this so thanks for that information too. I will also change the caption on the photo. Thanks again!

    Just a hint to make the changes quickly hold the 'ctrl' button and the letter 'f' and you should be able to either 'Find and Replace' them all or 'Find' them at once on each page and save yourself time. (although be careful with the 'Replace all' function that you haven't changed some other unconnected word, e.g. seanathair to seánathair to take an obscure example in this context). But you probably knew all that. :pac:


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    Hedgemeister
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    As a young Military Police Corporal stationed in Mullingar I was a Pallbearer at Gen. Mac Eoin's funeral in Ballinalee in '73, (as I was for Develera, I think it was the following year?)


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    johndervilla
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭johndervilla


    Hi, there are photos from Sean's funeral on my site www.seanmaceoin.ie. Are you in any of the photos? I was also there aged 5.


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    Hedgemeister
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    Can't see myself but then we carried the coffin in relays. I'm not in the pic unless I'm on the hidden side of the coffin.
    I was 23 yrs old at the time... God, where does time go?
    We (six of us) were invited to the post funeral function but our (very strict) Sgt i/c wouldn't let us have a drink!
    Six pints and a tray of sandwiches were placed in front of us by Pat Quinn, of supermarket fame. He sat and chatted with us for the time we were allowed remain there & nobody else spoke to us. (Was he related to the family?)
    The sandwiches were soon eaten, but we had to leave the pints behind!


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    cruderbeef
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    Hedgemeister wrote: »
    Can't see myself but then we carried the coffin in relays. I'm not in the pic unless I'm on the hidden side of the coffin.
    I was 23 yrs old at the time... God, where does time go?
    We (six of us) were invited to the post funeral function but our (very strict) Sgt i/c wouldn't let us have a drink!
    Six pints and a tray of sandwiches were placed in front of us by Pat Quinn, of supermarket fame. He sat and chatted with us for the time we were allowed remain there & nobody else spoke to us. (Was he related to the family?)
    The sandwiches were soon eaten, but we had to leave the pints behind!
    Was that the 4th Garrison MPC, Western Command?


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    Hedgemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    cruderbeef wrote: »
    Was that the 4th Garrison MPC, Western Command?
    Yes, it was/


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    johndervilla
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭johndervilla


    Sorry you didn't get to enjoy your pints. I wonder if Seán Mac Eoin would have let you drink them! I'm not sure if there is any link with Pat Quinn. I'll have to ask around about that and get back to you.


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    cruderbeef
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    Hedgemeister wrote: »
    Yes, it was/
    My uncle was in that unit.


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    Hedgemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    cruderbeef wrote: »
    My uncle was in that unit.

    Maybe I knew him. Send me a pm?


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    tynanap
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭tynanap


    tomasocarthaigh wrote: »
    Im looking for any photos, newspaper clippings (scan and post) and the words to any of the ballads about Sean "Tipper" Mac Eoin, the rebel leader.

    Before independence he was known as John Joseph Mc Keown.

    We have our own stories about him as well.
    have ballads if you want them about the blacksmith Andy Tynan


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