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Wilberto · 21-08-2019 9:02pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

National Teams

Europe
SAN MARINO

OMG! This is the best news ever! I love San Marino!

I might just buy this game after all.

I'm being completely serious btw!

callaway92 · 22-08-2019 12:01pm

Wilberto wrote: »

OMG! This is the best news ever! I love San Marino!

I might just buy this game after all.

I'm being completely serious btw!

MyClub White Benchers - - - - UNITE!

Det Somerset · 23-08-2019 8:23am

ERG89 wrote: »

Regarding option files is it worth paying for PesUniverse??

I'd like one that has more than the Premier League teams

A perennial question on here. The common consensus is that it's not worth paying for an option file as there will be a number of quality ones out there that are free. I would suggest keeping an eye on this thread as there will be a discussion on release day as to whether anyone has found any decent option files so you'll see what people are using then. Last year I got an option file on day one that had all the European leagues and they all seemed fine until I noticed a month or two later that the Championship teams had been botched and all their kits looked the same. By that stage there were lots of updated option files to choose from online so I picked another and used it until the end of the season. I think many who pay for the option file just do so to avoid the leg work of finding the free ones and prefer to just know they will have one presented to them on the day they need it. If that's what floats your boat then go for it, but you certainly don't have to pay for a quality option file if that's what you're asking.

Det Somerset · 23-08-2019 8:28am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

No. Real players but fake kit and logo.

Based on Ireland being marked as 4* from the following …

*1 Uniforms, team names and emblems will be PES original design, players will be real.
*2 PES original team uniforms, team names, emblems and players.
*3 PES original team uniforms and players.
*4 PES original team uniforms, players will be real.

I interpreted that as being only the kit will be fake, whereas the team emblem/logo/badge will be real as well as the real players. But it's not perfectly clear so I may be wrong on that.

Colemania · 23-08-2019 10:33am

Det Somerset wrote: »

Based on Ireland being marked as 4* from the following …

*1 Uniforms, team names and emblems will be PES original design, players will be real.
*2 PES original team uniforms, team names, emblems and players.
*3 PES original team uniforms and players.
*4 PES original team uniforms, players will be real.

I interpreted that as being only the kit will be fake, whereas the team emblem/logo/badge will be real as well as the real players. But it's not perfectly clear so I may be wrong on that.

Well the logo will be the Irish flag and not the official FAI logo. The licensed countries will have their flag on the team select screen but obviously on their kits they'll have the real logo

WeleaseWoderick · 23-08-2019 11:07am

Gamestop doing a deal on preorders at the moment (€9.99 with 1 game from their trade-in list).

https://www.gamestop.ie/gamescom

Surprisingly enough, PES 2019 is on the trade-in list so looks like a good deal for updating this year.

whiskeyman · 23-08-2019 11:22am

As an Xbox1 gamer, I presume there's no way of getting option files / kits?

Det Somerset · 23-08-2019 11:23am

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Gamestop doing a deal on preorders at the moment (€9.99 with 1 game from their trade-in list).

https://www.gamestop.ie/gamescom

Surprisingly enough, PES 2019 is on the trade-in list so looks like a good deal for updating this year.

That is absolutely crazy if it's not a mistake or it is and they honour it. PES 19 will be worth no more than a tenner in just a few weeks time (if its even worth that now) so they are effectively valuing the sale at around 20 euro for a game they will otherwise be selling for 65! I've already sold my physical copy but I'd be interested to know if anybody manages to take advantage of this superb deal with a PES 19 trade in.

Det Somerset · 23-08-2019 11:26am

whiskeyman wrote: »

As an Xbox1 gamer, I presume there's no way of getting option files / kits?

Sadly no. There's still no way to do this with PES 2020 as the restriction is with the XBOne hardware which doesn't permit importing of files from USB.

WeleaseWoderick · 23-08-2019 11:33am

Det Somerset wrote: »

That is absolutely crazy if it's not a mistake or it is and they honour it. PES 19 will be worth no more than a tenner in just a few weeks time (if its even worth that now) so they are effectively valuing the sale at around 20 euro for a game they will otherwise be selling for 65! I've already sold my physical copy but I'd be interested to know if anybody manages to take advantage of this superb deal with a PES 19 trade in.

Going to try tomorrow and will report back!

Exclamation Marc · 23-08-2019 1:01pm

Det Somerset wrote: »

That is absolutely crazy if it's not a mistake or it is and they honour it. PES 19 will be worth no more than a tenner in just a few weeks time (if its even worth that now) so they are effectively valuing the sale at around 20 euro for a game they will otherwise be selling for 65! I've already sold my physical copy but I'd be interested to know if anybody manages to take advantage of this superb deal with a PES 19 trade in.

It's real. Traded it in a couple of weeks ago towards Luigis Mansion.

WeleaseWoderick · 24-08-2019 11:53am

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Det Somerset wrote: »

That is absolutely crazy if it's not a mistake or it is and they honour it. PES 19 will be worth no more than a tenner in just a few weeks time (if its even worth that now) so they are effectively valuing the sale at around 20 euro for a game they will otherwise be selling for 65! I've already sold my physical copy but I'd be interested to know if anybody manages to take advantage of this superb deal with a PES 19 trade in.

Going to try tomorrow and will report back!

Happy to report that not only did they accept the trade in, the cost of the 2020 game only came up as €4.99!

Wilberto · 24-08-2019 1:03pm

F*** PES Universe.

That is all.

Colemania · 24-08-2019 3:48pm

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Happy to report that not only did they accept the trade in, the cost of the 2020 game only came up as €4.99!

Accepted my trade in too but didn't get as lucky. Still, 9.99 is a great deal!

Luckycharms_74 · 26-08-2019 3:14pm

Ah sh1t I missed out on the Gamestop "Gamescom" offer last week.
Guy in store said you can trade in for a 50% off new game

How Soon Is Now · 29-08-2019 10:51pm

See a few people got there hands on the game early abroad and have uploaded videos and pics from master league etc. There was live streams as well as far as i know.

Its all on the wepes sub reddit anyway.

Colemania · 30-08-2019 8:07am

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

See a few people got there hands on the game early abroad and have uploaded videos and pics from master league etc. There was live streams as well as far as i know.

Its all on the wepes sub reddit anyway.

Ya I've been looking through it. Other than the colours for the background, nothing visually has really changed. So lazy.

Master league menu looks different but apparently everything else is the exact same as last year. Transfers are much better though it seems which is probably the main thing. No info on myclub yet so they probably haven't changed anything

IncognitoMan · 30-08-2019 1:26pm

Are all legends useable as managers in ML?

Can Beckham be used for example?

brianregan09 · 31-08-2019 2:37pm

What's the best price on this lads ?

Colemania · 31-08-2019 3:27pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

What's the best price on this lads ?

The gamestop offer was probably the best but I think the game collection is probably the next cheapest

whiskeyman · 02-09-2019 7:26pm

Played more of the demo.
Some beautiful animations.
The deft lob shot is magnificent.
I lobbed the keeper by a distance, and he laid still on the ground with his head in the ground annoyed.
Really enjoying the demo so can't wait for the full version.
By far better than last year's version and the best footie game ever.

Cienciano · 03-09-2019 9:24am

whiskeyman wrote: »

Played more of the demo.
Some beautiful animations.
The deft lob shot is magnificent.
I lobbed the keeper by a distance, and he laid still on the ground with his head in the ground annoyed.
Really enjoying the demo so can't wait for the full version.
By far better than last year's version and the best footie game ever.

I'd be scared to see how many hours I put into PES 2019.

Det Somerset · 03-09-2019 9:42am

Cienciano wrote: »

I'd be scared to see how many hours I put into PES 2019.

Yeah I played PES almost exclusively for the last 12 months which was very surprising and I'm not sure I want the same to happen again for the next 12 months as I'd like to play other games too. I forced myself to try and play through RDR2 for a period but I'm still only about 75% through the main story as I kept returning to PES. It's just so easy to pick up and play even in short bursts (which often turn into longer ones). PES 2020 seems like it will play as well if not better so it may be equally addictive even if I'm hoping to be less obsessed with it.

Det Somerset · 04-09-2019 2:08pm

There's a short thread here about the launch next week but the key points are ...

there will be a day one game patch
Data Pack 1.01 will provide licence and player updates
All the transfers from the summer window will be downloadable on Thurs 12th

That last one sounds like we'll be playing with last season's squads for the first couple of days then. Not the end of the world as I won't be playing much until the 12th anyway, but it sucks for those who want to get stuck into Master League straight away

https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/1169218570296971264?s=20

Colemania · 04-09-2019 8:49pm

Det Somerset wrote: »

There's a short thread here about the launch next week but the key points are ...
there will be a day one game patch

Data Pack 1.01 will provide licence and player updates

All the transfers from the summer window will be downloadable on Thurs 12th

That last one sounds like we'll be playing with last season's squads for the first couple of days then. Not the end of the world as I won't be playing much until the 12th anyway, but it sucks for those who want to get stuck into Master League straight away

https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/1169218570296971264?s=20

People on twitter freaking out over it and the casual gamers saying they won't buy it because of it. Talk about being over dramatic! It's only 2 days! A few years ago we waited almost 5 weeks for a transfer update, may have even been more!

My only worry is that nothing has been announced about myclub yet which could mean it's a rinse repeat of last year or there's big changes afoot

Det Somerset · 05-09-2019 7:56am

Colemania wrote: »

My only worry is that nothing has been announced about myclub yet which definitely means it's a rinse repeat of last year

Fixed that for you there, Colemania! :pac:

tigger123 · 06-09-2019 11:01am

Just bought in on Games Collection for £35.85, which translates into €39.97 in real money.

Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on it!

Ivefoundgod · 06-09-2019 12:56pm

Colemania wrote: »

People on twitter freaking out over it and the casual gamers saying they won't buy it because of it. Talk about being over dramatic! It's only 2 days! A few years ago we waited almost 5 weeks for a transfer update, may have even been more!

My only worry is that nothing has been announced about myclub yet which could mean it's a rinse repeat of last year or there's big changes afoot

Not going to stop me buying it on release but it's not good enough to release a game with out of date transfers in this day and age. No other sports game releases with out of date squads and the majority have weekly updates while changes can happen (eg madden, NBA, MLB games with the trade windows).

The transfers should be a really quick fix, it's a database editor. I recall spending a day back in the ps2 days updating transfers manually. This is a full development team.

Exclamation Marc · 06-09-2019 1:02pm

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Not going to stop me buying it on release but it's not good enough to release a game with out of date transfers in this day and age. No other sports game releases with out of date squads and the majority have weekly updates while changes can happen (eg madden, NBA, MLB games with the trade windows).

The transfers should be a really quick fix, it's a database editor. I recall spending a day back in the ps2 days updating transfers manually. This is a full development team.

It's not really. If players don't exist in their database, they have to create and design them.

Each to their own but the hysteria over two days waiting is pathetic. Not saying that you're hysterical but I've seen people lose their minds over it and they really need perspective as its pathetic.

Konami have advised of the two day wait in advance so nobody is buying a game on the pretence that it's up to date and gets shafted. If it bothers people so much, wait til Friday to buy it.

Ivefoundgod · 06-09-2019 1:10pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

It's not really. If players don't exist in their database, they have to create and design them.

Each to their own but the hysteria over two days waiting is pathetic. Not saying that you're hysterical but I've seen people lose their minds over it and they really need perspective as its pathetic.

Konami have advised of the two day wait in advance so nobody is buying a game on the pretence that it's up to date and gets shafted. If it bothers people so much, wait til Friday to buy it.

Of the league's that are in the game the number of players who don't exist or have never existed in this game engine can't be too high. I would imagine that most players would be happy to accept a limited update (ie the top 5 leagues) if that is a genuine reason.

Could you imagine FIFA with a much larger database releasing with out of date transfers?

I'm not that bothered and agree the hysterical reaction is over the top but it's just another reason why Konami will never be able to topple FIFA.

Exclamation Marc · 06-09-2019 1:16pm

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Of the league's that are in the game the number of players who don't exist or have never existed in this game engine can't be too high. I would imagine that most players would be happy to accept a limited update (ie the top 5 leagues) if that is a genuine reason.

Could you imagine FIFA with a much larger database releasing with out of date transfers?

I'm not that bothered and agree the hysterical reaction is over the top but it's just another reason why Konami will never be able to topple FIFA.

They have to ensure all the South American leagues, Russian leagues, Asian leagues etc are up to date. That's a lot of teams and a lot of smaller countries (from an exposure perspective) that they have to get absolutely right. They release it fully updated or not at all. Targeting a few leagues spits in the face of leagues that they're developing as 'not a priority'.

Realistically PES will never topple fifa but it knows that. EA are too heavily resourced and licensed to ever be even concerned by Konami.

But come on, it's 48 hours. A bit of perspective goes a long way.

Det Somerset · 06-09-2019 1:54pm

Anyhoo, Konami are giving all players 500 coins as an apology for the two day wait for updated squads. Nice if unnecessary gesture in my opinion.

Also there's been some talk finally about myClub but it doesn't see like much to be honest.

National Team 'Featured Players' (I guess for international weeks)
Player Stats screens look a bit cleaner and they have extra kits slots
new legends (none mentioned apart from some being from partner clubs ... Cantona would be a giggle!)
Play Matchday Events with myClub squads (I don't know what this means tbh)

So it might be a little shinier but if those are the only changes there's little if anything worth talking about different this year as feared.

Thread here https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/1169905886011113473?s=20

jclack · 06-09-2019 3:17pm

tigger123 wrote: »

Just bought in on Games Collection for £35.85, which translates into €39.97 in real money.

Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on it!

What are they like for delivery times?

tigger123 · 06-09-2019 3:30pm

jclack wrote: »

What are they like for delivery times?

They're ok. I've bought from them the last few years, generally its despatched on the day of release and you have it on the following Tuesday or Wednesday.

Exclamation Marc · 06-09-2019 4:19pm

jclack wrote: »

What are they like for delivery times?

Got Wreckfest delivered to my place in Dublin the day before release date last month.

I've never once had them despatch on release date. Its always a day or two before (weekends permitting).

Drumpot · 06-09-2019 4:21pm

What is the difference between the standard edition and the standard with the man united cover (on Amazon price is 10e difference)

Det Somerset · 06-09-2019 4:38pm

Drumpot wrote: »

What is the difference between the standard edition and the standard with the man united cover (on Amazon price is 10e difference)

I stand to be corrected but I'm pretty sure only the cover is the difference so it's a complete waste of money unless you're an obsessed fan or collector.

Colemania · 06-09-2019 7:55pm

Drumpot wrote: »

What is the difference between the standard edition and the standard with the man united cover (on Amazon price is 10e difference)

Its 10 euro cheaper for a reason. Nobody wants a game with Man United plastered all over it :pac:

Oh you meant the other way around.......

No difference anyway as far as I know

Colemania · 06-09-2019 7:57pm

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Of the league's that are in the game the number of players who don't exist or have never existed in this game engine can't be too high. I would imagine that most players would be happy to accept a limited update (ie the top 5 leagues) if that is a genuine reason.

Could you imagine FIFA with a much larger database releasing with out of date transfers?

I'm not that bothered and agree the hysterical reaction is over the top but it's just another reason why Konami will never be able to topple FIFA.

Bear in mind that on release date, the transfer window will have just closes 8 days previous. There was a LOT of transfers on the last day so there's a fair bit of work to get through alright. It's only 2 days anyway, not the end of the world

Wilberto · 06-09-2019 8:01pm

That is absolutely ridiculous if that's the only difference for the price differential. I mean, who'd actually pay the extra €10?

Apart from Scott and perhaps his family.

Exclamation Marc · 06-09-2019 8:03pm

Wilberto wrote: »

That is absolutely ridiculous if that's the only difference for the price differential. I mean, who'd actually pay the extra €10?

Apart from Scott and perhaps his family.

I don't know where its €10 more but its only £1 more on TheGameCollection so whoever is putting 10 on it is gouging.

Ivefoundgod · 06-09-2019 9:26pm

Colemania wrote: »

Bear in mind that on release date, the transfer window will have just closes 8 days previous. There was a LOT of transfers on the last day so there's a fair bit of work to get through alright. It's only 2 days anyway, not the end of the world

Without knowing how the DB is setup I can only speculate but the fact they’re admitting it’s not great themselves says a lot IMO. It’s a yearly game, some of which are often accused of being squad updates and little else. Konami have consistently been poor on something they should be getting right on release day. If you can’t get the squads up to date for launch day then postpone the launch. They’ve got a short window prior to Fifa coming out to try get new fans, any fifa man who buys this is going to be turned off by something so basic being off. It’s hard enough without licensing but one thing they can absolutely get right is the squads for release day.

As I said already it won’t deter me, I love PES but that’s the kind of thing which shouldn’t be hard to get right for release. If the game is to go continue to win back fans from fifa these are the kind of things they need to get right. Fifa is rubbish at the moment, chance to capitalise on that is now.

Exclamation Marc · 06-09-2019 10:01pm

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Without knowing how the DB is setup I can only speculate but the fact they’re admitting it’s not great themselves says a lot IMO. It’s a yearly game, some of which are often accused of being squad updates and little else. Konami have consistently been poor on something they should be getting right on release day. If you can’t get the squads up to date for launch day then postpone the launch. They’ve got a short window prior to Fifa coming out to try get new fans, any fifa man who buys this is going to be turned off by something so basic being off. It’s hard enough without licensing but one thing they can absolutely get right is the squads for release day.

As I said already it won’t deter me, I love PES but that’s the kind of thing which shouldn’t be hard to get right for release. If the game is to go continue to win back fans from fifa these are the kind of things they need to get right. Fifa is rubbish at the moment, chance to capitalise on that is now.

If they delayed it two days and the reason was to wait until the squads were updated, people would flip out and say they should have just released it. Lose/Lose.

It's really an overreaction from all quarters.

Ivefoundgod · 06-09-2019 11:31pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

If they delayed it two days and the reason was to wait until the squads were updated, people would flip out and say they should have just released it. Lose/Lose.

It's really an overreaction from all quarters.

Apologies if I wasn’t clear, I meant they should release 2 days later if they knew (and clearly they did) it would take that long to complete the update. I don’t mean delay,I mean pick that date from the beginning.

I agree the reaction in some quarters has been over the top but some criticism is warranted in this case IMO. If I’m on my own here I’ll shut up, don’t want to derail the thread. I’m a PES fan, just want to see them do better when they can.

whiskeyman · 09-09-2019 8:54am

Well, one day to go.
Not since PES6 have I anticipated a PES game before.
Nearly feel like phoning up a few stores to see if they have it for sale early!
Can remember a few places years ago doing that..

tigger123 · 09-09-2019 11:07am

When will the reviews be available?

IncognitoMan · 09-09-2019 11:36am

I'd love to get my hands on it this evening. Would be great if someone broke the release date

Exclamation Marc · 09-09-2019 12:14pm

I was one of the mugs who ordered the Man Utd version of the game from TheGameCollection but they emailed me and said they were let down from their supplier so am getting the regular game but with £10 credit on the account. Prob won't get it til Wednesday so tho

Nothing ever goes as planned for us United fans these days! Ha

Colemania · 09-09-2019 12:20pm

IncognitoMan wrote: »

I'd love to get my hands on it this evening. Would be great if someone broke the release date

Gamestop used to put it out on the shelves the day before release, just before closing. Used to go in and get it then and worked 3 years in a row but this was about 15 years ago so a lot has changed since then :P

Exclamation Marc · 09-09-2019 12:21pm

Colemania wrote: »

Gamestop used to put it out on the shelves the day before release, just before closing. Used to go in and get it then and worked 3 years in a row but this was about 15 years ago so a lot has changed since then :P

Haha yeah. I remember HMV in Dundrum or Game used to call you the night before and tell you it was available and could be collected in the hour before close.

Or once or twice, you could go into one and tell them the other were selling it and they'd give it to you :P

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