Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

Dots1982 · 09-03-2019 6:01pm

I really enjoy the Saturday afternoons with Nathan, Johnny Ward and Dan McDonnell.

jeremyj1968 · 09-03-2019 6:43pm

Tell me how wrote: »

I'm waiting for the day when aggrieved men stop complaining that women are advocating to improve their lot and form groups with other men to lobby campaign and fight for change. Because, like it or not, there is a lot of evidence of women doing just that to improve their circumstance.

Yeah but we are talking about what is presented as a fight for equality and fairness. There is a difference between a legitimate fight for equality and fairness and lobbying for preferential treatment.

There is no point in having a men's group in the current media environment. The media is of the same thinking as Gillette. White straight males are the source of all oppression, not the victims of oppression.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 09-03-2019 6:52pm

TheScoringGoal wrote:

I've no issue with a female presenter on Off The Ball. I do have an issue with Cliona Foley as I don't think she's a talented presenter.

This

Ahwell · 09-03-2019 7:08pm

It's not just a presenter issue with OTB. Since April 2002 there has been only two female members of Newstalk's sports department that I know of. Sinead kissane had a role in OTB briefly at the very beginning and since very recently Sue Murphy(Does the TV review on The Hard Shoulder) joined the sports department. So for 15 years or so, the entire department - presenters, producers, researchers and sports bulletin readers have been entirely male. The person who has done most of the hiring in that department over that period is Ger Gilroy.

Slipperydodger · 11-03-2019 8:51pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

I really enjoy the Saturday afternoons with Nathan, Johnny Ward and Dan McDonnell.

Agree always good.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 11-03-2019 9:15pm

BOD is a terrible analyst, always playing it safe

Utopia Parkway · 12-03-2019 12:59am

Most annoying pundit/analyst used regularly by OTB?

I gotta go with Daniel Harris. An absolute pain.

deisedude · 12-03-2019 8:14am

Podcasts seem to have stopped working again on Podcast Addicr

redbuck · 12-03-2019 8:37am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Most annoying pundit/analyst used regularly by OTB?

I gotta go with Daniel Harris. An absolute pain.

Graham Hunter.

Tell me how · 12-03-2019 9:44am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Most annoying pundit/analyst used regularly by OTB?

I gotta go with Daniel Harris. An absolute pain.

Who's your favourite pundit/analyst used regularly by OTB?

Adamcp898 · 13-03-2019 12:06pm

deisedude wrote: »

Podcasts seem to have stopped working again on Podcast Addicr

Noticed that too, not syncing with iTunes either. Thought they were a bit late to post on their website too. Could've sworn when I looked last night that neither of this week's Football Shows were up but both are there now.

RugbyLover123 · 13-03-2019 1:53pm

Why is it OTBAM is available on Spotify but none of their other shows are?

13-03-2019 5:23pm

redbuck wrote: »

Graham Hunter.

I was having coffee with (insert famous footballer here) recently and...yawn...an egomaniac if ever there was one.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-03-2019 6:03pm

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

BOD is a terrible analyst, always playing it safe

Not sure what he adds tbh, very vanilla.

I bet he doesn't come cheap either.

dominatinMC · 13-03-2019 10:18pm

I hadn't listened to OTB in a long time, tuned in there a few minutes ago to get an update on the Champions League. What I heard was the latest incarnation of OTB in a microcosm. Joe Molloy on his soapbox pontificating on the morals and ethics of horseracing. I should have known better than to tune in. In fairness to Dan McDonnell, he was having none of it and made some good counter points.

Tell me how · 13-03-2019 10:23pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

I hadn't listened to OTB in a long time, tuned in there a few minutes ago to get an update on the Champions League. What I heard was the latest incarnation of OTB in a microcosm. Joe Molloy on his soapbox pontificating on the morals and ethics of horseracing. I should have known better than to tune in. In fairness to Dan McDonnell, he was having none of it and made some good counter points.

#Thoughts and prayers.
Hope you get through it.

Mod note
take a day off from the forum.

diusmr8a504cvk · 13-03-2019 10:43pm

Ger Gilroy on about how he can't enjoy Ronaldo's big performance due to the fact that he's involved in a big rape trial.
This never once entered my mind until he said it.
Do people actually feel this way or it just him trying to basically plant seeds in others?

dominatinMC · 13-03-2019 11:34pm

Tell me how wrote: »

#Thoughts and prayers.
Hope you get through it.

Ah there we go, right on cue...as usual, I might add :rolleyes:

NIMAN · 13-03-2019 11:36pm

Brayan Chilly Shoplifter wrote: »

Ger Gilroy on about how he can't enjoy Ronaldo's big performance due to the fact that he's involved in a big rape trial.
This never once entered my mind until he said it.
Do people actually feel this way or it just him trying to basically plant seeds in others?

It never crossed my mind until I read this post.

That's just Ger, loves being so PC

Ol' Donie · 13-03-2019 11:39pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

I hadn't listened to OTB in a long time, tuned in there a few minutes ago to get an update on the Champions League. What I heard was the latest incarnation of OTB in a microcosm. Joe Molloy on his soapbox pontificating on the morals and ethics of horseracing. I should have known better than to tune in. In fairness to Dan McDonnell, he was having none of it and made some good counter points.

What time was that at?

Be nice to hear someone talking about what a sham of a sport horse racing is in amongst the saturation of Cheltenham b*llocks this week.

dominatinMC · 13-03-2019 11:46pm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

What time was that at?

Be nice to hear someone talking about what a sham of a sport horse racing is in amongst the saturation of Cheltenham b*llocks this week.

Around 9pm-ish. Tbf, there is probably a debate/discussion to be had on the topic, in particular the gambling element that is inextricably linked to racing. But it just kinda annoyed me this evening that, having tuned in for the first time in a long time, I heard Joe rambling on about it. I guess the irony isn't lost on them having Boylesports as their main sponsor.

Tell me how · 14-03-2019 12:34am

dominatinMC wrote: »

Ah there we go, right on cue...as usual, I might add :rolleyes:

Tell me about it.

Tell me how · 14-03-2019 12:37am

dominatinMC wrote: »

Around 9pm-ish. Tbf, there is probably a debate/discussion to be had on the topic, in particular the gambling element that is inextricably linked to racing. But it just kinda annoyed me this evening that, having tuned in for the first time in a long time, I heard Joe rambling on about it. I guess the irony isn't lost on them having Boylesports as their main sponsor.

They had a jockey on on Tuesday who had been riding a horse that afternoon at Cheltenham which had fallen, gotten injured and had to be put down.

He was fine with having the discussion about the morality of horse racing. Made the point that cows, pigs, sheep are bred to be slaughtered and that something like 0.2% of horses are put down in this way so while it is not ideal, it is a relatively rare occurrence and acceptable that they continue.

redbuck · 14-03-2019 12:42am

Tell me how wrote: »

They had a jockey on on Tuesday who had been riding a horse that afternoon at Cheltenham which had fallen, gotten injured and had to be put down.

He was fine with having the discussion about the morality of horse racing. Made the point that cows, pigs, sheep are bred to be slaughtered and that something like 0.2% of horses are put down in this way so while it is not ideal, it is a relatively rare occurrence and acceptable that they continue.

Are you running a PR exercise on behalf of Newstalk?

ballsymchugh · 14-03-2019 12:43am

dominatinMC wrote: »

Around 9pm-ish. Tbf, there is probably a debate/discussion to be had on the topic, in particular the gambling element that is inextricably linked to racing. But it just kinda annoyed me this evening that, having tuned in for the first time in a long time, I heard Joe rambling on about it. I guess the irony isn't lost on them having Boylesports as their main sponsor.

bloody hell, he came across as a complete tool there. why did he want to talk about horse welfare during the football show, and not say, on Friday when they talk about horse racing with racing experts? it's almost as if he's afraid to debate with someone who knows what they're talking about.
neither a football man nor a horse racing man..

CatFromHue · 14-03-2019 1:51am

Brayan Chilly Shoplifter wrote: »

Ger Gilroy on about how he can't enjoy Ronaldo's big performance due to the fact that he's involved in a big rape trial.
This never once entered my mind until he said it.
Do people actually feel this way or it just him trying to basically plant seeds in others?

the allegation has taken the gloss off him for me.

as for BOD I like him. I'm not sure where exactly he fits in as he's a bit of an analyst a bit of a pundit and also a not that long retired player but I enjoy what he has to say.

Slipperydodger · 14-03-2019 2:30am

ballsymchugh wrote: »

bloody hell, he came across as a complete tool there. why did he want to talk about horse welfare during the football show, and not say, on Friday when they talk about horse racing with racing experts? it's almost as if he's afraid to debate with someone who knows what they're talking about.
neither a football man nor a horse racing man..

It was with Johnny Ward, a big Horse man. About 9 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9LX5fBJjs&t=475s

jeremyj1968 · 14-03-2019 6:50am

ballsymchugh wrote: »

bloody hell, he came across as a complete tool there. why did he want to talk about horse welfare during the football show,

I tuned in for the first time in about a month, to try to get the score for the Liverpool match, which it too them an age to move on to. When I heard Joe saying "Well, it's the choice of the jockey to take part in the race, but the horse has no choice in the matter", I thought it was Oliver Callan doing a parody.

pc7 · 14-03-2019 9:26am

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Pussyhands · 14-03-2019 3:33pm

Slipperydodger wrote: »

It was with Johnny Ward, a big Horse man. About 9 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9LX5fBJjs&t=475s

Johnny Ward, big bogger accent on him (not that I have a problem with them accents, I have one myself).

BPKS · 14-03-2019 9:18pm

Just listening to Big Mike Quirke now on OTB.

He's probably the best GAA analyst OTB have - he is an excellent coach and a good thinker on the game. Wasnt a bad footballer back in the day either.

Ol' Donie · 16-03-2019 4:33pm

Haven't heard the show much lately.

Turned it on last night: Coming up, we're talking Cheltenham.

Turned it on today: Now we have some bloke on to talk about the odds in the Champion's League.

Won't be turning it on again for a long time.

jeremyj1968 · 18-03-2019 10:05am

Just noticed this article today from Declan Lynch. He devotes an article to, yeah you've guessed it, gambling.

"When I was a teenage punter - not so much a betting man as a betting boy - it would probably have seemed strange to me that at Cheltenham time, a top jockey would be doing ads for a top bookie like Terry Rogers or Sean Graham." etc etc

It had me thinking if he has been on the show over the last while. He used to do the papers on a Sunday and contribute to other bits. But I haven't heard him on the show since the relationship with Boyle Sports. I was wondering if he had just stepped back from the show after he walked in and saw Richie and Eoin Sheahan putting up the Boyle Sports bunting around the presenter's desk? Or was he taking more of a Ray D'Arcy approach to things (i.e. be a complete hypocrite and just go along with it).

Pussyhands · 18-03-2019 9:44pm

Listening to the show tonight. I liked BOD but that Eoin guy is so annoying. Such a terrible nasal voice for radio. Can imagine he's a little narrow fella with a pointy nose.

He seemed to not have any idea of any intricacies of rugby, only going for extremes..i.e something like "joe is dictatorish and the players are oppressed".....players were fine under him a few months ago.

Why is Joe Molloy interviewing Tom Dunne on OTB? It's a sports show ffs. Turned it off.

Tell me how · 18-03-2019 9:47pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Listening to the show tonight. I liked BOD but that Eoin guy is so annoying. Such a terrible nasal voice for radio. Can imagine he's a little narrow fella with a pointy nose.

He seemed to not have any idea of any intricacies of rugby, only going for extremes..i.e something like "joe is dictatorish and the players are oppressed".....players were fine under him a few months ago.

Why is Joe Molloy interviewing Tom Dunne on OTB? It's a sports show ffs. Turned it off.

Because Tom recently had life saving heart surgery and OTB were supporting a healthy heart campaign.

On Bank Holiday Mondays, they playback pieces rather than have a normal show.

Pussyhands · 18-03-2019 10:31pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Because Tom recently had life saving heart surgery and OTB were supporting a healthy heart campaign.

On Bank Holiday Mondays, they playback pieces rather than have a normal show.

When I tune in to listen to a discussion on sports, I literally couldn't care less about Tom Dunnes heart.

Tell me how · 18-03-2019 10:38pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

When I tune in to listen to a discussion on sports, I literally couldn't care less about Tom Dunnes heart.

It was literally about 5 minutes if I remember correctly.

The whole purpose was about awareness. You might not give a sh*t about being reminded to get checked out but, so what, most would be thankful to hear of a positive story in relation to heart disease.

19-03-2019 7:59am

Pussyhands wrote: »

Listening to the show tonight. I liked BOD but that Eoin guy is so annoying. Such a terrible nasal voice for radio. Can imagine he's a little narrow fella with a pointy nose.

He seemed to not have any idea of any intricacies of rugby, only going for extremes..i.e something like "joe is dictatorish and the players are oppressed".....players were fine under him a few months ago.

Why is Joe Molloy interviewing Tom Dunne on OTB? It's a sports show ffs. Turned it off.

When you can't articulate any reasoned analysis, there's always the mocking someone's appearance option.

amlinopta · 19-03-2019 10:20am

Will be interesting see how much, if any, coverage there is of the Delaney loan later given his links with the station’s owner and FAI benefactor.

Tell me how · 19-03-2019 10:31am

amlinopta wrote: »

Will be interesting see how much, if any, coverage there is of the Delaney loan later given his links with the station’s owner and FAI benefactor.

Well, Dan McDonnel is a regular guest on the show and he has no love for Delaney or the FAI so I expect it will get covered.

Dan was tweeting about it over the weekend.

Stargazer7 · 19-03-2019 11:10am

Tell me how wrote: »

Well, Dan McDonnel is a regular guest on the show and he has no love for Delaney or the FAI so I expect it will get covered.

Dan was tweeting about it over the weekend.

Yeah, I forgot it was a bank holiday and fully expected them to be chewing over the topic for the first hour last night.

jeremyj1968 · 20-03-2019 9:07am

Any coverage of the John Delaney stuff yet? I think it tells you something about the ridiculous levels of pay in the FAI when the company has to go to a staff member for the lend of a few quid, as opposed to a staff member approaching the company for the lend of a few quid.

Tell me how · 20-03-2019 10:17am

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Any coverage of the John Delaney stuff yet? I think it tells you something about the ridiculous levels of pay in the FAI when the company has to go to a staff member for the lend of a few quid, as opposed to a staff member approaching the company for the lend of a few quid.

The FAI sent out an online survey yesterday.

Most of it was about going to international matches and the experience around that but there were some questions on the perception of the organisation.

Probably was prescheduled but I can imagine the responses they are getting on it. Would be very interesting to see.

Imagine the results will be buried or used to indicate support for what they are doing.

I wonder if the sport Ireland enquiry yesterday will amount to much.

Beechwoodspark · 20-03-2019 10:22am

The Jason mcateer stories and “banter” - I’m not a fan. Tedious to listen to

MD1990 · 20-03-2019 1:59pm

Don't listen to OTB AM anymore as they have poor quests.

Sheahan constantly trying acting smart is very boring. Gilroy & Sheehan are a bad duo imo.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 21-03-2019 6:21pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The Jason mcateer stories and “banter” - I’m not a fan. Tedious to listen to

We've kind of heard them all before now. They were funny when he first started appearing on the show 6, 7 years ago.

jeremyj1968 · 21-03-2019 7:03pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

We've kind of heard them all before now. They were funny when he first started appearing on the show 6, 7 years ago.

Did you hear the one about when him and Barnes got fired

Faugheen · 21-03-2019 8:17pm

Enjoying the fun being poked at Declan Rice during the news round here

Pherekydes · 22-03-2019 8:16pm

Funny how they're going on so much about how happy the McCarthy press conferences are. Jeez, they haven't played a match yet. The honeymoon hasn't even been consummated!

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