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Ex's mother signed the car over to me, now she want it back!?

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  • 03-02-2014 3:39pm
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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭


    I'm separating with my boyfriend and the issue is the car his mom signed over to me in my name because she's not using it. I have had it for 6 months which means that I have put it through Nct and passed (which she said wasn't nessecary), paid over 500 euros to take care of the entire underbody that was covered by rust and rust holes, rusty door sills, electrical issues and rust around the fuel cap. I also taxed it and ensured it do I've put a lot of money on this car.
    so my question is, can she take it back when the ownership is in my name?

    Thanks


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    #2
    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    not unless you give it back to her. Was it fully changed of ownership to you?


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    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    sounds like it's not worth a lot. Might be cleaner to just give it back. On the other hand, you would be justified in asking for the money you put into it back I think. She can't TAKE it back.


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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭EmilieStiletto


    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    not unless you give it back to her. Was it fully changed of ownership to you?

    Yes I have the certificate with all the info that says I'm the owner.


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    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Is she paying any loan on the car still?
    If not and she's signed it over to you then I don't see how she can claim it back.

    To be 100% sure you could get a solicitors view on the matter and show them any documents etc


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    Daniel S
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Give her the receipts for what you've put into the car (that isn't day to day stuff). If she is willing to pay for those, just give it back?


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    challengemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    You've no obligation to give it back, it's yours.

    What's morally correct is a whole different kettle of fish.


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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭EmilieStiletto


    corktina wrote: »
    sounds like it's not worth a lot. Might be cleaner to just give it back. On the other hand, you would be justified in asking for the money you put into it back I think. She can't TAKE it back.

    If I decide to give it back she owes me around 800-1000 e. Just saved it from being canned cuz the first Nct test it was doomed and I made sure it goes for maybe 3 years more. Just feels like I give her a fully working car with no issues at all when she gave me a damaged one. Just don't seem fair. If you see it from my point of view.


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    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    If I decide to give it back she owes me around 800-1000 e. Just saved it from being canned cuz the first Nct test it was doomed and I made sure it goes for maybe 3 years more. Just feels like I give her a fully working car with no issues at all when she gave me a damaged one. Just don't seem fair. If you see it from my point of view.

    well if that's the case ignore her. If its legally transferred to your name, and you don't need the Christmas card from her, forget about it!


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    mitosis
    Registered Users Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭mitosis


    She pays you for the work that went into the car, you pay her for rental of the car.


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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭EmilieStiletto


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Is she paying any loan on the car still?
    If not and she's signed it over to you then I don't see how she can claim it back.

    To be 100% sure you could get a solicitors view on the matter and show them any documents etc

    She bought the car from a dealer and paid it all at once. Thank you for the advice.


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    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    She bought the car from a dealer and paid it all at once. Thank you for the advice.

    hmm getting curious now...what type of car and how old?

    I mean i still say that you ignore it...but if its an expensive car maybe a few bob would keep you on the Christmas card list if you so wanted..


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    Red_Dwarf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭Red_Dwarf


    You own the car.

    She can do nothing about it

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    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    If I decide to give it back she owes me around 800-1000 e. Just saved it from being canned cuz the first Nct test it was doomed and I made sure it goes for maybe 3 years more. Just feels like I give her a fully working car with no issues at all when she gave me a damaged one. Just don't seem fair. If you see it from my point of view.
    She owes you a proportion of the money you spent - you did get use out of the car too. One other question - did she give you the car or allow you to use it?


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    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,242 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You own the car, she transferred ownership to you.

    If you spent money on the car to make it road worthy, then she can hardly ask for the car back and expect you to just give it to her.

    If you want to remain on good terms with her, sell it back to her for the price of the repairs you did and the remaining road tax. Otherwise, she hasn't got a legal leg to stand on.


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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭EmilieStiletto


    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    hmm getting curious now...what type of car and how old?

    I mean i still say that you ignore it...but if its an expensive car maybe a few bob would keep you on the Christmas card list if you so wanted..

    It's Ford ka 1999.


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    Gordy6040
    Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭Gordy6040


    There is no moral question here, the ex's mother is not "entitled" to get the car back.
    Asking for it seems a bit petty in my opinion, no offense meant here, but it doesnt exactly sound like its woth a fortune. Just based on your comment on the rust etc. The only thing to worry about is if there was a loan outstanding on the car then any outstanding finance could potentially pass to you.
    You should be able to check on motorcheck.ie or a similar web site.


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    EmilieStiletto
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭EmilieStiletto


    Anan1 wrote: »
    She owes you a proportion of the money you spent - you did get use out of the car too. One other question - did she give you the car or allow you to use it?

    She did give it to me and I have the certificate of ownership of the car.


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    whomitconcerns
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    1999 ford ka....worth very little (no offence) tell her your sorry she feels that way but the car is yours and that's the end of it. Move on...


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    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    It's Ford ka 1999.

    OK so it's worth less than a grand. Let her sue you, how could you lose out?.

    Not worth arguing about, you have it, you aren't giving it back unless she pays for some of the money you spent on it.

    I take it that the real issues here are not really anything to do with the car?


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    gctest50
    Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    I'm separating with my boyfriend and the issue is the car his mom signed over to me in my name because she's not using it. I have had it for 6 months which means that I have put it through Nct and passed (which she said wasn't nessecary), paid over 500 euros to take care of the entire underbody that was covered by rust and rust holes, rusty door sills, electrical issues and rust around the fuel cap. I also taxed it and ensured it do I've put a lot of money on this car.
    so my question is, can she take it back when the ownership is in my name?

    Thanks

    You took something (perhaps dangerous ? door sills are sometimes a structural part ? ) destined for the scrapheap off her hands and restored it.

    Goes on every day all around the world - whole section of boards about doing the same :

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=514

    whomitconcerns wrote: »
    1999 ford ka....worth very little (no offence) .........

    Sentimental value though ?

    eg people restore things like these :

    http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html

    .


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    #22
    donegal.
    Registered Users Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭donegal.


    offer her a deal , whoever keeps the car pays the other €500


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    djimi
    Registered Users Posts: 13,238 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    If it were to go to court then it would be your word against hers as to the arrangement, and you have the registration documents to show that she signed the car over to you. Basically, she hasnt a hope in hell of legally getting the car back from you (in my opinion).

    Whether or not you want the hassle of fighting over a Ka worth less than a grand is up to you, however I fully agree that if she wants the car back then she owes you for the repairs and money spent on it.


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    Anan1
    Registered Users Posts: 22,818 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    She did give it to me and I have the certificate of ownership of the car.
    Just to be clear, they're separate things. It would have been necessary for the car to be registered in your name for you to insure it, but this wouldn't necessarily make it yours. Did she tell you that you could keep the car, that it belonged to you?


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    #25
    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Tell her to fock off.

    Or give it back

    Basically you can do what you like.


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    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I'd ask for the money you spent on the car back.

    I'd rather have €500 than a 15 year old Ford Ka.


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    Supergurrier
    Registered Users Posts: 7,289 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Tell her thats fine but you will be charging her €20 storage per day + repair costs


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    MrDerp
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭MrDerp


    Have you got a list of items you gave her over the years? Christmas presents, stuff like that which you'd like back in good working order.

    The woman has been watching too much Judge Judy. Car is signed over to you. You don't get to reverse transactions, even zero invoice ones, because you no longer like the person you did a deal with.

    She's trying to score points for her poor wounded ickle boy who couldn't possibly have had anything to do with the break-up. My own ould wan is the same, there's a string on everything. Goes on at my in laws about what awful beyotches my exes were. Doesn't even occur to her what a cock I was to them.

    You have two choices here, in my opinion. Keep the car, or give it back free. The middle ground is actually murkier than keeping it, in that you let her say "The cheek of her asking for money for my car".

    One way or the other, you're well shot of this potential MIL :)


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    #29
    sogood
    Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    She got her son back and now she wants the car as well? It's your car, pure and simple. What you decide to do about it is a matter of morals, ethics etc. but legally, it's your car.


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    noelf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭noelf


    MrDerp wrote: »
    Have you got a list of items you gave her over the years? Christmas presents, stuff like that which you'd like back in good working order.

    The woman has been watching too much Judge Judy. Car is signed over to you. You don't get to reverse transactions, even zero invoice ones, because you no longer like the person you did a deal with.

    She's trying to score points for her poor wounded ickle boy who couldn't possibly have had anything to do with the break-up. My own ould wan is the same, there's a string on everything. Goes on at my in laws about what awful beyotches my exes were. Doesn't even occur to her what a cock I was to them.

    You have two choices here, in my opinion. Keep the car, or give it back free. The middle ground is actually murkier than keeping it, in that you let her say "The cheek of her asking for money for my car".

    One way or the other, you're well shot of this potential MIL :)

    Sounds like a job for Top Gear with a piano dangling from a crane just outside her door ...don't forget the video


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    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    EmilieStiletto wrote: »
    the car his mom signed over to me
    The trans-Atlantic shipping costs are going to be rough.


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