Back tax on getting new logbook

honda boi · 24-03-2019 12:33am #1

Friend lost his logbook from his bike years ago,had it lying around since like 2006.
Went to get a new logbook,stamped by Garda but tax office said he has to pay the back tax before he gets the logbook.
Tried telling them it's been sitting rotten in his back yard for years but told nope still liable for back tax.
Didn't think it worked that way,as if he had not lost the logbook he could Just sign it over to someone and back tax would be wiped.
Anyone hear of this before?

punisher5112 · 24-03-2019 12:36am

honda boi wrote: »

Friend lost his logbook from his bike years ago,had it lying around since like 2006.
Went to get a new logbook,stamped by Garda but tax office said he has to pay the back tax before he gets the logbook.
Tried telling them it's been sitting rotten in his back yard for years but told nope still liable for back tax.
Didn't think it worked that way,as if he had not lost the logbook he could Just sign it over to someone and back tax would be wiped.
Anyone hear of this before?

Someone else(new buyer could get a solicitor and sign off that way)

It's going to be the only way or pay arrears.

colm_mcm · 24-03-2019 9:04am

That doesn’t sound right unless it’s been imported and never taxed in Ireland. Arrears doesn’t affect getting a duplicate cert usually.

uck51js9zml2yt · 24-03-2019 9:07am

colm_mcm wrote: »

That doesn’t sound right unless it’s been imported and never taxed in Ireland. Arrears doesn’t affect getting a duplicate cert usually.

I had a case like this while working in the MTO.
Turned out he bought the kit,registered it but never got it taxed, hence no log book.
He owed 17 years of tax.
He hadn't even built the bike.

Del2005 · 24-03-2019 9:13am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Someone else(new buyer could get a solicitor and sign off that way)

It's going to be the only way or pay arrears.

You'd want to be getting a good deal to buy a bike without a VLC. Unless you "sell" its just a avoid back tax between friends I'd be avoiding a seller that doesn't have a VLC.

Isambard · 24-03-2019 9:43am

honda boi wrote: »

Friend lost his logbook from his bike years ago,had it lying around since like 2006.
Went to get a new logbook,stamped by Garda but tax office said he has to pay the back tax before he gets the logbook.
Tried telling them it's been sitting rotten in his back yard for years but told nope still liable for back tax.

that's exactly what they will advise you in the Tax Office. "sell" it to your Wife or Brother and then when they tax it (or sell it back to you) the arrears will be gone.

Phileas Frog · 24-03-2019 9:54am

Gibson Modern Suburbanite wrote: »

I had a case like this while working in the MTO.
Turned out he bought the kit,registered it but never got it taxed, hence no log book.
He owed 17 years of tax.
He hadn't even built the bike.

I'm calling porkies on this. To register a kit vehicle, it needs to be inspected by the NSAI, i.e. it needs to be completed.

honda boi · 24-03-2019 9:59am

Ye it's been taxed before and was on the road for years before it was left lying around.
No idea why they'd ask for tax arrears for a logbook.
Is there a way he can sign it to someone else (wife or brother) or is that a job for a solicitor ye like punisher said ?
Really thought meself that it's just straight forward getting a duplicate logbook.

demanufactured · 24-03-2019 10:42am

Why is he going to the tax office?
Just send the firm to DoT in shannon.

punisher5112 · 24-03-2019 12:20pm

Del2005 wrote: »

You'd want to be getting a good deal to buy a bike without a VLC. Unless you "sell" its just a avoid back tax between friends I'd be avoiding a seller that doesn't have a VLC.

I meant to a friend and take it back and change again.

It can be done but it's not easy.

CJhaughey · 24-03-2019 12:59pm

Try a different tax office, they don't all work the same.

Back tax on getting new logbook

Comments