Why haven't certain Songs, Movies and Books been cancelled yet?

badabing106 · 16-06-2021 2:17pm #1

If a sports person can be cancelled for a tweet they wrote when they were a teenager

www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/07/ecbinvestigating-second-player-posting-racially-offensive-tweets/amp/

Why not people who wrote songs, books, movies?

I was listening to a Rod Stewart song where he references "falling in love with a slit eyed girl" and it deeply offended my ears . I think it is time for Rod Stewart and others to be called out on this

Do you agree? Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

HeidiHeidi · 16-06-2021 2:19pm

con747 · 16-06-2021 2:20pm

E36Ross · 16-06-2021 2:21pm

Don't ****ing start giving them ideas!!

Trigger Happy · 16-06-2021 2:27pm

No, unless it gives us good reason to cancel Crazy Frog's back catalogue.

SnazzyPig · 16-06-2021 2:38pm

Have a listen to The Rolling Stones' Brown Sugar.

Feisar · 16-06-2021 3:38pm

SnazzyPig wrote: »

Have a listen to The Rolling Stones' Brown Sugar.

...while watching Beyonce's Single Ladies.

mcgragger · 16-06-2021 3:40pm

Jesus Christ - turn it off it you dont like it.

Feisar · 16-06-2021 3:43pm

badabing106 wrote: »

If a sports person can be cancelled for a tweet they wrote when they were a teenager

www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/07/ecbinvestigating-second-player-posting-racially-offensive-tweets/amp/

Why not people who wrote songs, books, movies?

I was listening to a Rod Stewart song where he references "falling in love with a slit eyed girl" and it deeply offended my ears . I think it is time for Rod Stewart and others to be called out on this

Do you agree? Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

I hate this calling out/cancelling crap usually by people with zero talent themselves. Unable to create anything they go about trying to tear down others. It's excruciatingly sad.

Some clown was on about Father Ted here a few weeks ago, that was inane on another level.

Allinall · 16-06-2021 3:45pm

badabing106 wrote: »

If a sports person can be cancelled for a tweet they wrote when they were a teenager

www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/07/ecbinvestigating-second-player-posting-racially-offensive-tweets/amp/

Why not people who wrote songs, books, movies?

I was listening to a Rod Stewart song where he references "falling in love with a slit eyed girl" and it deeply offended my ears . I think it is time for Rod Stewart and others to be called out on this

Do you agree? Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

Eh.... No it didn't.

Hurrache · 16-06-2021 3:46pm

Lol, OP reads the Telegraph. Scarlet for ye.

Arghus · 16-06-2021 4:29pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Lol, OP reads the Telegraph. Scarlet for ye.

I read it for the laugh. Then I realise it's how the Tories in charge actually see the world and I don't find it funny anymore.

It's some trip, let me tell you.

Burt Renaults · 16-06-2021 4:33pm

How are people reading the Telegraph when its website has the most stringent paywall that doesn't even allow you to view the main page without registering?

ShamNNspace · 16-06-2021 4:35pm

Just heard perfect 10 there on the radio by the beautiful south.... Dirty dirty song and I love it

One eyed Jack · 16-06-2021 4:51pm

badabing106 wrote: »

If a sports person can be cancelled for a tweet they wrote when they were a teenager

www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/07/ecbinvestigating-second-player-posting-racially-offensive-tweets/amp/

Why not people who wrote songs, books, movies?

I was listening to a Rod Stewart song where he references "falling in love with a slit eyed girl" and it deeply offended my ears . I think it is time for Rod Stewart and others to be called out on this

Do you agree? Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

This whole “cancelled” nonsense is just silly. Generally the same people who are cancelled are choosing to participate in that nonsense themselves, so they only have themselves to blame when it happens to them.

There’s plenty I find offensive, but they’re not actually doing any harm to anyone, they’re just annoying, like this chap (NSFW) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ny33H8BQTU

Greyfox · 16-06-2021 7:19pm

badabing106 wrote: »

Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

Nope, I have common sense.

branie2 · 16-06-2021 9:09pm

The book To Kill a Mockingbird has been cancelled in some schools in America.

Fuascailteoir · 16-06-2021 9:14pm

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Just heard perfect 10 there on the radio by the beautiful south.... Dirty dirty song and I love it

Listened to that song just now with a totally different perspective. Haven't heard it in a long long time and hadn't ever listened intently to some of the lyrics before.

badabing106 · 17-06-2021 9:18am

Thankfully the English are finally acknowledging the warped and depraved mind of children's author Enid Blyton

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9695159/Enid-Blytons-work-racist-xenophobic-lacking-literary-merit-says-English-Heritage.html

NIMAN · 17-06-2021 9:24am

Wasn't Huckleberry Finn cancelled too, due to the use of the N word?

Talking of the N word, I am truly shocked that they still allow one of my all time favourite films to be shown on TV. Blazing Saddles.

Ninthlife · 17-06-2021 9:26am

One in a Million - Guns n Roses

Caused a stir back in the day. I imagine if released nowadays peoples heads would fall off and brains melt

Was I or am I offended by it - No
Should it or the band be cancelled...No

whisky_galore · 17-06-2021 9:29am

The same kind of people into 21st cent cancelling would have been front and centre in holy Catholic ireland censorship of 'dirty' books and movies if they had been around in the 50s.

Ninthlife · 17-06-2021 9:30am

NIMAN wrote: »

Wasn't Huckleberry Finn cancelled too, due to the use of the N word?

Talking of the N word, I am truly shocked that they still allow one of my all time favourite films to be shown on TV. Blazing Saddles.

I watched an episode of Little House on the Praire on TG4 one midday afternoon and the kids found a runaway kid who was a slave or child of one in theit barn, the line said by one of the characters was something like 'Oh my, a real live N***o'

Was I offended - No. I took it as being somewhat historically accurate as that was the term used in that particular period in history

olestoepoke · 17-06-2021 9:31am

I am deeply offended by people who are easily offended, can we cancel these people. I suggest a complete media wide ban for every offender

knucklehead6 · 17-06-2021 9:41am

Once upon a relatively recent time I had someone report me to HR in work because I was talking about Tinkers Hill.

I was even called into a meeting by one of the HR Drones because of it.

olestoepoke · 17-06-2021 9:43am

Ninthlife wrote: »

I watched an episode of Little House on the Praire on TG4 one midday afternoon and the kids found a runaway kid who was a slave or child of one in theit barn, the line said by one of the characters was something like 'Oh my, a real live N***o'

Was I offended - No. I took it as being somewhat historically accurate as that was the term used in that particular period in history

Speaking of historical accuracy, I've noticed lately that a lot of period movies are historically inaccurate. In these movies/shows people of colour are shown in higher social standings than I'd imagine (unless I'm completely wrong) they actually were in the given period. I appreciate we have come a long way since then and the world is a much better place for it but why throw the facts out the window. Am I offended? No not at all, I just feel it takes away from the movie a little.

Greyfox · 17-06-2021 10:28am

olestoepoke wrote: »

Speaking of historical accuracy, I've noticed lately that a lot of period movies are historically inaccurate.. why throw the facts out the window. Am I offended? No not at all, I just feel it takes away from the movie a little.

It depends, often been historically inaccurate makes for a better film. Braveheart is a superb film but if it was very accurate you would have to remove most of the best moments of the film

Padre_Pio · 17-06-2021 10:34am

Depends on how popular the artist is.

Gary Glitter songs are still played regularly.
Lost Prophets songs are not played at all.

JimmyVik · 17-06-2021 10:45am

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Once upon a relatively recent time I had someone report me to HR in work because I was talking about Tinkers Hill.

I was even called into a meeting by one of the HR Drones because of it.

I told the story in another thread about the war that I saw break out before me in an aquarium when a woman called her escaping toddler back with "Come back here you little monkey".
And in that thread there were people who thought attacking that poor woman was justified by her use of the word.
Scary world we live in today.

JimmyVik · 17-06-2021 10:46am

olestoepoke wrote: »

I am deeply offended by people who are easily offended, can we cancel these people. I suggest a complete media wide ban for every offender

I agree.
But dont worry, they will be forgotten about soon enough. Im at the point know when I hear someone moaning about what someone else once said or wrote I just switch off.

knucklehead6 · 17-06-2021 1:25pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

I told the story in another thread about the war that I saw break out before me in an aquarium when a woman called her escaping toddler back with "Come back here you little monkey".
And in that thread there were people who thought attacking that poor woman was justified by her use of the word.
Scary world we live in today.

Wait till they hear what i call my little terrorist!!

Ninthlife · 17-06-2021 8:43pm

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Wait till they hear what i call my little terrorist!!

Always bombing about I bet

Tilden Katz · 17-06-2021 10:05pm

badabing106 wrote: »

If a sports person can be cancelled for a tweet they wrote when they were a teenager

www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/06/07/ecbinvestigating-second-player-posting-racially-offensive-tweets/amp/

Why not people who wrote songs, books, movies?

I was listening to a Rod Stewart song where he references "falling in love with a slit eyed girl" and it deeply offended my ears . I think it is time for Rod Stewart and others to be called out on this

Do you agree? Are there any books, movies or songs that deeply offend you or cause you to blush the color purple ?

I suspect you’re pulling our legs

, but talking generally, I don’t really know what to do with people telling me they find something offensive. O....kay?

Tilden Katz · 17-06-2021 10:06pm

Burt Renaults wrote: »

How are people reading the Telegraph when its website has the most stringent paywall that doesn't even allow you to view the main page without registering?

Archive websites

Manic Moran · 17-06-2021 10:39pm

Dukes of Hazzard. CBF on the roof of the car is causing trouble these days.
Speedy Gonzalez has been on the 'offensive list and we won't show it' since 1999. Despite him being being a very popular character on Mexican TV. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/mar/9/cancel-speedy-gonzales-not-so-fast-latinos-say/
Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd no longer have guns. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/entertainment/looney-tunes-reboot-guns-trnd/index.html
Zippedy-doo-dah is also on the 'play at your own risk' level.

18-06-2021 12:21am

I've just read the odd article in the Telegraph here and there, and I never noticed political bias. Do people say it's really "Tory something something" because it actually is or because that's the accepted wisdom without need for clarification? I have no doubt it was very much to the right years ago but today?

It's no Richard Littlejohn type cesspool - or even worse, the Daily Express.

Anyway, while digging up someone's tweets from nine years ago is just sh1tty and baffling behaviour, how is he cancelled? Still playing isn't he? I do agree there are these absurd campaigns to get things banned, people fired, lose their livelihood etc but why are people using the word "cancelled"? It's not even correct English!

riclad · 18-06-2021 12:28am

It's ridiculous to criticise books or films made 20 years ago because they are sexist, old fashioned, not totally politically correct, now we have social media, lgbtq and women's rights
It's a different world now
In the 80s some women had to stop working if they got married
They are lots of films and books from 20 years ago that could not be released now as they are sexist or insult minoritys
Many famous people male actors took advantage of women or harassed women and it was seen as normal
or it was not spoken about before the me too
movement started

Church on Tuesday · 18-06-2021 12:40am

NIMAN wrote: »

Wasn't Huckleberry Finn cancelled too, due to the use of the N word?

Talking of the N word, I am truly shocked that they still allow one of my all time favourite films to be shown on TV. Blazing Saddles.

Enjoy it while you can.

COVID · 18-06-2021 7:19am

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'
That's what I said
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or, so I've read.
My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo
I love to sink her with my pink torpedo.
Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about bum cakes
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?

Absolute filth!

greenspurs · 18-06-2021 1:03pm

The Jack by AC/DC ...
Filth shur, tis manky dirty ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6njy7mZbwdc

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-06-2021 1:15pm

calls for far-right extremist Enid Blytons books to be burned

Hadron Collider · 18-06-2021 1:26pm

The Rolling Stones' Stray Cat Blues is about sex with a 15-year-old girl.

I can see that you're fifteen years old
No, I don't want your ID
And I can see that you're so far from home

But that's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime

You say you got a friend, that she's wilder than you
Why don't you bring her upstairs?
If she's so wild, then she can join in too

Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
Oh yeah, don't you scratch like that
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
I bet you mama don't know you can bite like that
I'll bet she never saw you scratch my back

xabi · 18-06-2021 1:38pm

badabing106 wrote: »

Thankfully the English are finally acknowledging the warped and depraved mind of children's author Enid Blyton

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9695159/Enid-Blytons-work-racist-xenophobic-lacking-literary-merit-says-English-Heritage.html

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1405593628358201350

Church on Tuesday · 18-06-2021 4:43pm

Hadron Collider wrote: »

The Rolling Stones' Stray Cat Blues is about sex with a 15-year-old girl.

I can see that you're fifteen years old
No, I don't want your ID
And I can see that you're so far from home

But that's no hanging matter
It's no capital crime

You say you got a friend, that she's wilder than you
Why don't you bring her upstairs?
If she's so wild, then she can join in too

Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
Oh yeah, don't you scratch like that
Oh yeah, you're a strange stray cat
I bet you mama don't know you can bite like that
I'll bet she never saw you scratch my back

The Stones and Zeppelin weren't exactly bastions of moral integrity.

Both massively overrated bands too.

Wibbs · 18-06-2021 6:10pm

riclad wrote: »

It's ridiculous to criticise books or films made 20 years ago because they are sexist, old fashioned, not totally politically correct, now we have social media, lgbtq and women's rights
It's a different world now
In the 80s some women had to stop working if they got married
They are lots of films and books from 20 years ago that could not be released now as they are sexist or insult minoritys
Many famous people male actors took advantage of women or harassed women and it was seen as normal
or it was not spoken about before the me too
movement started

Eh... 20 years ago is 2001.

Something like this no doubt.

Well ladies, at least your cookers weren't affected by the millennium bug. Now where's my cup of tea? And why aren't you barefoot and pregnant?

Women's marriage bar in the civil service was lifted in 1973. Decriminalisation of homosexuality was in 1993. And Ireland was one of the least progressive nations in Europe and has become one of the most progressive in not much more than a generation. What books or films in 2001 were insulting minorities or sexist? Man, your perceptions of the very recent past are interesting to say the least.

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

The Stones and Zeppelin weren't exactly bastions of moral integrity.

Yep. Members of both had well dodgy "affairs" with underaged groupies. As did Dave Bowie and Marvin Gaye.

Manic Moran wrote: »

Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd no longer have guns. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/entertainment/looney-tunes-reboot-guns-trnd/index.html
Zippedy-doo-dah is also on the 'play at your own risk' level.

"No mention is made of whether or not that the guns being removed was a response to gun violence and school shootings in the US". Indeed, the joke being that when Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd were rootin tootin and shootin with guns in the 50's and 60's gun violence in the US was significantly lower and school shootings were at pretty much zero.

MyLove4Satan · 18-06-2021 8:28pm

Rock and Roll Ni**er by Patti Smith no one ever seems to bring up. It's a great song from a great album. But it is not racist - it is a statement and not an attack. The Cancel Culture crowd ignore context.

Yet when it is overtly bigoted they leave it alone! There are loads of 'dumb white boy' lyrics in rap and I do not see the SJWs calling that out. Have you ever heard the homophobic lyrics in Jamaican Hip Hop? 'Put a Bullet in the Batty Man' - openly calling for the murder of Gays and that never gets called out either.

The Cancel Culture mob are psychotic bitter useless types who know they will leave nothing of note when they die so they seek to level the playing field by killing culture instead. If I meet someone who even hints of a Cancel Culture mindset I will not have anything to do with them and neither should anyone else. It's a mental illness and nothing more.

reniwren · 18-06-2021 8:39pm

COVID wrote: »

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'
That's what I said
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or, so I've read.
My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo
I love to sink her with my pink torpedo.
Big bottom
Big bottom
Talk about bum cakes
My gal's got 'em.
Big bottom
Drive me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?

Absolute filth!

What's wrong with being sexy?

NewbridgeIR · 18-06-2021 10:23pm

Ninthlife wrote: »

One in a Million - Guns n Roses

Caused a stir back in the day. I imagine if released nowadays peoples heads would fall off and brains melt

Was I or am I offended by it - No
Should it or the band be cancelled...No

On the 30th anniversary edition of Appetite For Destruction (a 4CD+BD) set, One In A Million was the only track from the era that was excluded. I have fond memories of hearing buskers on Grafton Street sing it.

MyLove4Satan · 18-06-2021 10:44pm

Can't believe they left One in a Million off the re-release of Appetite For Destruction. The band only made one good album and with that now removed Guns N Roses have now made no good albums.

NewbridgeIR · 18-06-2021 10:57pm

MyLove4Satan wrote: »

Can't believe they left One in a Million off the re-release of Appetite For Destruction. The band only made one good album and with that now removed Guns N Roses have now made no good albums.

It wasn't on the original album (it actually appeared on the follow-up G N' R Lies) but for the super deluxe edition of Appetite, everything else from that era was gathered up. Very disappointing.

18-06-2021 11:12pm

Patti Smith is beloved of feminists and the queer community. Rock n' Roll N*gger is about being a woman in rock at the time. Were it not for her standing, I wouldn't be surprised if the context were ignored and offence taken. I don't think Patti (one of my idols) would have time for today's feminism though. She's a no-bullsh1t person.

MyLove4Satan wrote: »

Have you ever heard the homophobic lyrics in Jamaican Hip Hop? 'Put a Bullet in the Batty Man' - openly calling for the murder of Gays and that never gets called out either..

Yeah Buju Banton was the most notorious for that. I always found the aggressive machismo and misogyny of so much hip hop vile. Great, intelligent hip-hop artists like De La Soul and A Tribe Called Quest weren't as successful. Public Enemy were for a while I guess.

Why haven't certain Songs, Movies and Books been cancelled yet?

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