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The Arizona pro discrimination law

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    #32
    Amerika
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    So is it big bad business that is at fault in the porn star incident, or big bad government under "Operation Choke Point" in which the Department Of Justice is going after undesirable business ventures by pressuring banks to terminate their bank accounts and refuse their business?

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars


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    #33
    Jonny7
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    or

    rational explanation too mundane, therefore blog sites begin the hunt for a more exciting conspiracy maligning their favorite targets ;)


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    #34
    Amerika
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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    or

    rational explanation too mundane, therefore blog sites begin the hunt for a more exciting conspiracy maligning their favorite targets ;)

    Although I’m not familiar with all the UK news sites, I don’t think they all are considered blogs. :pac:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615301/Porn-industry-fury-Chase-bank-sends-hundreds-account-termination-letters-adult-film-stars-considered-risky.html

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/29/porn-stars-high-risk-bank-accounts


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    #35
    Jonny7
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    Amerika wrote: »
    Although I’m not familiar with all the UK news sites, I don’t think they all are considered blogs. :pac:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/29/porn-stars-high-risk-bank-accounts

    The above just echoes what I said - they clearly appear to be shut down due to risk

    The speculated relevance to "Operation Choke Point" in the Guardian is pretty common sense

    "As Vice News pointed out, the closure comes at a time when many in the banking industry are complaining about the US government's secretive program Operation Choke Point. The program was launched in 2013 reportedly to crack down on online payday lenders and others industries identified as "high risk" for fraud – which, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, includes the pornography industry."

    The blog you posted which tries to correlate with something different

    From the blog..
    "the DOJ is coercing private businesses in an attempt to centrally engineer the American marketplace based on it's own politically biased moral judgements"

    That's the difference, the latter plays more towards a certain agenda

    The Daily Mail is a tabloid and just uses the story to post up as many pictures of porn actresses as it can, with some print in between ;)


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    #36
    Amerika
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    Jonny7 wrote: »
    The above just echoes what I said - they clearly appear to be shut down due to risk

    The speculated relevance to "Operation Choke Point" in the Guardian is pretty common sense

    "As Vice News pointed out, the closure comes at a time when many in the banking industry are complaining about the US government's secretive program Operation Choke Point. The program was launched in 2013 reportedly to crack down on online payday lenders and others industries identified as "high risk" for fraud – which, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, includes the pornography industry."

    The blog you posted which tries to correlate with something different

    From the blog..
    "the DOJ is coercing private businesses in an attempt to centrally engineer the American marketplace based on it's own politically biased moral judgements"

    That's the difference, the latter plays more towards a certain agenda

    The Daily Mail is a tabloid and just uses the story to post up as many pictures of porn actresses as it can, with some print in between ;)

    Where in my question did I mention it had to do with “politically biased moral judgements?”

    I only provided the link because it seems I’m always required to provide some type of proof on just about any statement I make. Don’t read into things.


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    #37
    Jonny7
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    Amerika wrote: »
    Where in my question did I mention it had to do with “politically biased moral judgements?”

    The blog.. you linked


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    #38
    FISMA
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    Brian? wrote: »
    No business should be allowed to discriminate like this, period.

    So when women in America feel more comfortable exercising at a "ladies-only" club, that discriminates based on sex, no men allowed, you say no? Would you say yes to any form of gentlemen only, ladies forbidden establishment?

    If I own a building and want to rent apartments solely to seniors and decide to make a distinction on renting against families with children, based solely on age and not actual merit, you would say no?


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    #39
    Brian?
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    FISMA wrote: »
    So when women in America feel more comfortable exercising at a "ladies-only" club, that discriminates based on sex, no men allowed, you say no? Would you say yes to any form of gentlemen only, ladies forbidden establishment?

    No and no.
    If I own a building and want to rent apartments solely to seniors and decide to make a distinction on renting against families with children, based solely on age and not actual merit, you would say no?

    It depends on a number of factors.

    What is your position on allowing businesses to discriminate against someone based on their sexual preference?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #40
    Overheal
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    Factor clubs and organizations in your thinking, like sororities, fraternities, knights of columbus etc


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    #41
    Brian?
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Factor clubs and organizations in your thinking, like sororities, fraternities, knights of columbus etc

    I'd rather not thanks. Just because gender discrimination is a tradition, it doesn't mean it's a tradition worth keeping.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #42
    eire4
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Religious institutions should have to pay taxes, they effectively get a huge subsidy by not having to pay any.



    I would agree with that.


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