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dougal · 21-09-2019 6:49pm

BaronVon wrote: »

Cam is out, definitely a must win now! Tomorrow would be a nice day for a few beers on the Great Lawn!

Yes Cam out and replaced by Kyle Allen from Scottsdale so hopefully he will be nervous playing so close to home.

dougal · 22-09-2019 10:17pm

dougal wrote: »

Yes Cam out and replaced by Kyle Allen from Scottsdale so hopefully he will be nervous playing so close to home.

Nope not nervous-he is pumped up and actually really looks a very good Qb!

BaronVon · 23-09-2019 1:04pm

Yeah, balls to that. Really missed Pat P on Defense yesterday. Any Kyler was poor

dougal · 23-09-2019 7:14pm

BaronVon wrote: »

Yeah, balls to that. Really missed Pat P on Defense yesterday. Any Kyler was poor

Josh Rosen 18/39 200 3/13 running 0TD-0-INT
Kyler Murray 30/43 173 8/69 running 2TD-2-INT So at least Murray was better than Rosen.
Kyle Allen 19/26 261 4TD 0 INT. At least Kyler was better than Rosen ðŸ˜£ hard to know what to do Kyler Was sacked too often and did panic when the things that did work were changed in the next possession.

BaronVon · 23-09-2019 10:31pm

My assessment was from watching Redzone. Watched the highlights today, and he was better than the box score. The O Line certainly doesn't help him, but good to see him using his legs. He's a pass first QB, despite his athleticism, which I like.

DM1292 · 27-09-2019 8:41am

I'm happy with how the team is progressing. We've plenty of dead cap space going into next year. Our rookie offense doesn't look too bad thus far, but of course our O-Line is dreadful.

This year doesn't count for K1 in my eyes. Remember Mannings first year? Also not the greatest. I think if we address our holes, we'll be a decent side in 2 years or so.

dougal · 29-09-2019 1:52pm

DM1292 wrote: »

I'm happy with how the team is progressing. We've plenty of dead cap space going into next year. Our rookie offense doesn't look too bad thus far, but of course our O-Line is dreadful.

This year doesn't count for K1 in my eyes. Remember Mannings first year? Also not the greatest. I think if we address our holes, we'll be a decent side in 2 years or so.

I agree that this year is one for rebuilding and that’s all parts at least we have been competing in all the games so far. Liking a lot of Kyler passing and his moving is good. Big games today to see where we are in the NFC West.

dougal · 07-10-2019 3:55pm

Well a win and a 1-3-1 record at least makes the first five games seem better. I was very impressed by Murray last night especially the game winning drive. Great pass to Johnson and a brilliant run into field goal Range. Overall in the game he was better at avoiding sacks and 93 yards running is impressive. Our defense collapsed in the 4th quarter so needs a lot of work. Next 2 games are big to see where we are at. This week was a battle of no wins teams next is one win teams and if we win a trip to New York for a battle of two wins teams.

DaithiMa · 11-10-2019 3:24am

dougal wrote: »

Well a win and a 1-3-1 record at least makes the first five games seem better. I was very impressed by Murray last night especially the game winning drive. Great pass to Johnson and a brilliant run into field goal Range. Overall in the game he was better at avoiding sacks and 93 yards running is impressive. Our defense collapsed in the 4th quarter so needs a lot of work. Next 2 games are big to see where we are at. This week was a battle of no wins teams next is one win teams and if we win a trip to New York for a battle of two wins teams.

Was great to see us get a win on the board. Bar a very shaky quarter or so against the panthers Murray has looked the part. He is improving and gaining confidence every game. Larry Fitz helping him out big time he's been savage. With Peterson back soon to hopefully shore up pass defense am looking forward to the rest of the season. We could have done with him for Falcons and Jones though.

dougal · 11-10-2019 3:45pm

DaithiMa wrote: »

Was great to see us get a win on the board. Bar a very shaky quarter or so against the panthers Murray has looked the part. He is improving and gaining confidence every game. Larry Fitz helping him out big time he's been savage. With Peterson back soon to hopefully shore up pass defense am looking forward to the rest of the season. We could have done with him for Falcons and Jones though.

Yes for a rookie Murray has looked very good - it will always take time to figure out what works best for him! Hopefully as the season goes on he will build up a more confident way of getting things done consistently. PP21 will be back for the Giants game and combining with Byron Murphy will help the secondary. We need more protections for Tight Ends. So a better secondary will help us focus on this.

dougal · 23-10-2019 5:42am

dougal wrote: »

Next 2 games are big to see where we are at. This week was a battle of no wins teams next is one win teams and if we win a trip to New York for a battle of two wins teams.

So a win against the no win, one win and two win teams. Getting up to 3 wins is good but we need a few changes. On offence a bit of variety when we have a lead to help finish off games without leaving the comeback open plus some improvement on the Linebackers on Tightends. The next 2 games are tougher playing 2 six win teams so hopefully we see that we can be competitive in both. Considering we were 100 percent against the 49ers in our 3 win season last year and we are half a game better than last season after seven games.
Like the development of Kyler Murray he just needs to throw the ball away instead of trying to get his feet to try and evade a sack like he did Sunday the play before the punt was blocked for the TD.

dougal · 01-11-2019 6:12pm

Getting within 3 of the unbeaten 49ers is a great showing but am still perplexed by how Kingsbury wrongly called timeout on the 4th and one before halftime yet the play still went ahead and we stopped them but they got another go and scored the touchdown. Only for that we could have won by 4.

dougal · 26-04-2020 10:31pm

Happy with the draft overall- would have liked a TE but 2 Offensive linemen and 2 defensive linemen will help. Was really happy with the first round pick Simmons listed as a linebacker but I say he will play as a safety with some LB thrown in kind of reminds me of Tyrann Mathieu so will be able to play multiple positions and be involved in a lot on the defensive side. I think that the 7th round pick will be a good prospect and will give options to look at.

BaronVon · 27-04-2020 1:38pm

I don't really follow college football, but the general consensus seems to be pretty good. Good to draft an ASU lad at RB, that's 3 years in a row they've drafted someone local.

I think the future looks good in AZ, I'm expecting Murray to have a very good season. The main problem for them is the Division is very strong......

dougal · 28-04-2020 6:36pm

BaronVon wrote: »

I don't really follow college football, but the general consensus seems to be pretty good. Good to draft an ASU lad at RB, that's 3 years in a row they've drafted someone local.

I think the future looks good in AZ, I'm expecting Murray to have a very good season. The main problem for them is the Division is very strong......

Yes everything is looking better for the future- Murray will improve with having the season under his belt. Hopefully with an improved Offensive Line less sacks and more ability to make plays both on the ground and passing with 2 top WR - Fitzgerald is probably not a deep threat but he is a great route runner and yard gainer.
So now it is just needed to improve the defense and make games winnable again.

DM_2092 · 31-07-2020 10:46pm

Just knocking about Boards for the 1st time in ages (Unless I'm looking for a Fantasy Football League to join or something) and thought I'd post in here.

Anyway, what are fans opinions ahead new season? Think we're play-off worthy? I've been a bit vocal on Twitter that I feel a lot are over-estimating us and do feel we'll finish 7-9. This is because we need to rely on 3 big things in order to even hit a wild-card spot:

- Kyler needs to improve. Wait! Kyler looks good, but as a 2nd year QB, I feel he needs to be even better this year.
- The OLine needs to remain healthy. (If you're a long term Cards fan, you'll know this has been an issue for quite some time.)
- The Defense. I'm not sure how I feel about about Vance Joseph. We'll see this year. We gave up a lot last season.

Other factors:
- Kirk. Needs a big year.
- Rookie class. - Nearly every year we get 'Good Grades' but this needs to be a good class.

All that being said, I do think we're on the up. This'll be an interesting year for Kliff! Regardless, I'm looking forward to the new season and I hope you all are too!

BaronVon · 01-08-2020 12:09am

I would be hoping for a wildcard spot. Very tough division. It will be an unusual season, if it goes ahead, hard for rookies to get going, although Simmons looks class. Pat P back for the whole season too should really help the D. Most confident I've been in years for the Cards.....

DM_2092 · 01-08-2020 12:41am

BaronVon wrote: »

I would be hoping for a wildcard spot. Very tough division. It will be an unusual season, if it goes ahead, hard for rookies to get going, although Simmons looks class. Pat P back for the whole season too should really help the D. Most confident I've been in years for the Cards.....

I feel we're not as good as our 2015 team. And when it comes to expectation, not as good as what our 2016 team should have been!

I really hope either Isabella or Butler breakthrough this season. I can't wait. When this corona crap is over, I'm making sure I get to see them live. I missed them in Wembley that time we were battered by the Rams cos of work.

BaronVon · 01-08-2020 10:17am

Yeah, you gotta make that trip, nothing like a few pre match beers on the Great Lawn!!!!

I'm raging, I was supposed to be heading over this year, either week 2 at home to the Washington Football Team :pac: (with a trip to Vegas to see the Raiders too), or Week 9 at home to the Dolphins. The virus is actually rampant in AZ, so a trip in 2021 could even be in doubt :eek:

dougal · 02-08-2020 3:37pm

BaronVon wrote: »

Yeah, you gotta make that trip, nothing like a few pre match beers on the Great Lawn!!!!

I'm raging, I was supposed to be heading over this year, either week 2 at home to the Washington Football Team :pac: (with a trip to Vegas to see the Raiders too), or Week 9 at home to the Dolphins. The virus is actually rampant in AZ, so a trip in 2021 could even be in doubt :eek:

See that season tickets have been cancelled and if fans are to be allowed to attend it would be limited.
So probably behind closed doors and see how the team will fare.
I think that it is looking to have built in all the right areas this off-season and with more chances for Murray to develop and hopefully be a team that can push in this division.

DaithiMa · 20-08-2020 2:18am

DM_2092 wrote: »

I feel we're not as good as our 2015 team. And when it comes to expectation, not as good as what our 2016 team should have been!

I really hope either Isabella or Butler breakthrough this season. I can't wait. When this corona crap is over, I'm making sure I get to see them live. I missed them in Wembley that time we were battered by the Rams cos of work.

I was at that game with a Rams fan (it was actually at Twickenham) andbelieve me it was miserable! We missed a FG with our first possession I think and then it was game over. Apart from the match it was a great weekend though.

I am very optimistic about this season. Bar 4 big losses to the seahawks, panthers, saints and rams we were right in most of the other games we lost in 2019. I think most of the defeats were 1 or 2 score games. I had big doubts about Kingsbury at the start given some of his brutal calls but the offence definitely improved as the season went on.

Murray will have learned a lot from last season and the addition of Hopkins could be huge if he has chemistry with him. If Kirk is 100% fit he'll be a weapon too. I think the Cards will comfortably make the play-offs and who knows what will happen then. 50/1 still available for the Superbowl with a couple of bookies

DM_2092 · 22-08-2020 12:41am

DaithiMa wrote: »

I was at that game with a Rams fan (it was actually at Twickenham) andbelieve me it was miserable! We missed a FG with our first possession I think and then it was game over. Apart from the match it was a great weekend though.

I am very optimistic about this season. Bar 4 big losses to the seahawks, panthers, saints and rams we were right in most of the other games we lost in 2019. I think most of the defeats were 1 or 2 score games. I had big doubts about Kingsbury at the start given some of his brutal calls but the offence definitely improved as the season went on.

Murray will have learned a lot from last season and the addition of Hopkins could be huge if he has chemistry with him. If Kirk is 100% fit he'll be a weapon too. I think the Cards will comfortably make the play-offs and who knows what will happen then. 50/1 still available for the Superbowl with a couple of bookies

Ooff that's a big ask. I hope you're right though.

DaithiMa · 14-09-2020 1:20am

Great start. Should have won by more only for missed FGs. Murray and Hopkins already showing signs of chemistry. Bring on the Lions

dougal · 14-09-2020 4:50pm

DaithiMa wrote: »

Great start. Should have won by more only for missed FGs. Murray and Hopkins already showing signs of chemistry. Bring on the Lions

The defense really stepped up in this game. Big plays at the end but to keep this game close all the way was important. Still on offence need to figure out how to avoid the pressure being allowed on Murray - his touchdown run was amazing.

DM_2092 · 15-09-2020 2:32pm

DaithiMa wrote: »

Great start. Should have won by more only for missed FGs. Murray and Hopkins already showing signs of chemistry. Bring on the Lions

You mean the Skins? Haha. Bring em all on!!

DaithiMa · 21-09-2020 11:18pm

DM_2092 wrote: »

You mean the Skins? Haha. Bring em all on!!

Haha yeah, I thought we had the Lions next for some reason but bring them on now!

Another good win yesterday but still plenty of improvement to come on offence. We did a lot of good things first half but it was very sloppy for a couple of drives in the 2nd half and that needs to sharpen up.

On the plus side Murray is electric on the ground and Larry showed he is going to benefit from teams double teaming Hopkins. Good to see some others contributing with sacks on defence apart from Jones and can't really ask for a better start than 2-0.

dougal · 28-09-2020 3:56pm

DaithiMa wrote: »

Haha yeah, I thought we had the Lions next for some reason but bring them on now!

Another good win yesterday but still plenty of improvement to come on offence. We did a lot of good things first half but it was very sloppy for a couple of drives in the 2nd half and that needs to sharpen up.

On the plus side Murray is electric on the ground and Larry showed he is going to benefit from teams double teaming Hopkins. Good to see some others contributing with sacks on defence apart from Jones and can't really ask for a better start than 2-0.

A lot of talk about Murray height discussed with the interceptions - not seeing the defensive backs. More importantly the game plan seems so be too set in stone and no variety in the ways of using Murray to keep the defense guessing!
Three road games now and with less mistakes all are winnable but will need defence to be more competitive to keep the scores down and allow Murray to use his talent to get our
scores high enough.

dougal · 12-10-2020 4:51pm

dougal wrote: »

A lot of talk about Murray height discussed with the interceptions - not seeing the defensive backs. More importantly the game plan seems so be too set in stone and no variety in the ways of using Murray to keep the defense guessing!
Three road games now and with less mistakes all are winnable but will need defence to be more competitive to keep the scores down and allow Murray to use his talent to get our
scores high enough.

Well the loss last week seemed to bring the need to change the game plan. Murray passing for 380 yards and getting the win. I liked the additional use of Edmunds as a pass target and the catches DeHop made for his TD were amazing.
The defence were getting more done yesterday now hopefully can get more confidence and keep the games close enough to allow Murray to do his stuff.

dougal · 26-10-2020 1:46pm

What a game!

There was so much in this to wonder how we managed to pull this off but we did.
The almost pick six from Budda Baker followed by the failure to score then the great drive at the end to bring it to overtime and the made/missed field goal to win it followed by the interception from our rookie to getting the second chance for the field goal winner and making it for an amazing win.

DaithiMa · 16-11-2020 1:41am

Game management shocking after the last turnover. The match should have been near over before Bills got the go ahead score only that 2 pass plays were called. What a way to win though, some catch by Hopkins. Go on the Cards!!!

dougal · 16-11-2020 5:15pm

https://giphy.com/gifs/nfl-football-nfl-2020-week-10-6uFKGzgoSTR0m6gOjQ

Some win with 2 seconds left after giving up the lead and Murray making the throw when moving left to make the endzone from midfield and with 3 defensive backs marking Hopkins.
It takes more than 3 to Stop De Hop!

dougal · 08-01-2021 5:27pm

Well 8-8 is a getting there season.
Losing the last 2 to backup Quarterbacks is bad but one win would have been the playoffs.
Team would not have gone far in the playoffs but have the capabilities of winning when everything is going right.
Beating 3 playoff teams including the AFC 2 seed. Now just to build on the team.
This years draft was mainly backups that did get some game time but no standout plays really.
So this year possibly a corner back or a dual threat running back to go with Murray.
A lot of talk about changing head coach but maybe am offensive coordinator that can make the play calls with more variance than Kingsbury.
Ah well at least growth and not a losing season and nearly making the playoffs.

BaronVon · 10-01-2021 4:52pm

Yeah, offensive play calling is quite poor, seems to be curl routes, so everyone is covered, and then Murray has to scramble. And a scrambling QB is always gonna get hurt and miss some game time......

Hopefully I'll get over for a game in the Autumn, maybe even a home playoff game!!:cool:

dougal · 11-01-2021 6:39pm

BaronVon wrote: »

Yeah, offensive play calling is quite poor, seems to be curl routes, so everyone is covered, and then Murray has to scramble. And a scrambling QB is always gonna get hurt and miss some game time......

Hopefully I'll get over for a game in the Autumn, maybe even a home playoff game!!:cool:

Fingers crossed that travel and crowds will be available later this year would love to get back to a game.

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