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09-08-2019, 12:57   #1
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Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

This is really bad for Biden. The fact he is the frontrunner says a lot about the state of the Democrats. Sanders is too old and too far left. Harris was destroyed in the last debate. The only one who looks half decent is Elizabeth Warren.

Trump will easily beat "Sleepy Joe" now in 2020.

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After a pause, during which a few people clapped, Mr Biden added: “Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids....think how we think about it.”

The 76-year-old is currently the Democratic frontrunner but has a history of making distracting gaffes.

In the last few months he has come under scrutiny for allegedly hugging and touching women in an inappropriate manner.

He has also been criticised for joking about the controversy.

The former vice president has since been attacked for suggesting it was acceptable to mock a “gay waiter” five years ago and for fondly recalling his friendly relationship with a segregationist former senator.

The latter remarks, in which Mr Biden discussed working with James O Eastland, prompted fury in Democratic ranks.

Kamala Harris and Cory Booker were among those who criticised the 76-year-old’s comments about Mr Eastland.

“I do not believe you are a racist. And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground,” Ms Harris said to the former vice president, during the second Democratic debate.

“But I also believe – and it’s personal, and it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and careers on the segregation of race in this country.”

A wave of Democratic candidates are scheduled to visit the Iowa State Fair this weekend.

The crucial Iowa caucuses, the first contest of the campaign trail, will be held in February 2020.


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09-08-2019, 13:01   #2
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Hard to decide if he is this election's Jeb Bush or John Kerry.
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Trump has set the bar very low given his pussy and other comments.

Biden seems very acceptable in comparison.
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Trump has set the bar very low given his pussy and other comments.

Biden seems very acceptable in comparison.
Are you sure about that? Check up 'Creepy Uncle Joe' on YouTube.
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Sure Elizabeth Warren can claim to be the first Native American President.
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Trump has set the bar very low given his pussy and other comments.

Biden seems very acceptable in comparison.
Not really. People expect it from Trump, not from a career politician.
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Are you sure about that? Check up 'Creepy Uncle Joe' on YouTube.
No great shining stars on the Dem's side this time out and if YouTube is the extent of your view of the world I'd say you really need to find a new source.
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He made a speech following the shootings which I thought was very strong and it got alot of coverage. He came across presidential but November 2020 is a long way away yet. I think he does have a likeability factor and seems very genuine when speaking about loss.

But, in debate situations and discussing policy detail he is below par.

Along with his verbal gaffes and his long political record that is open for scrutiny though he's far from a sure thing.

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Not really. People expect it from Trump, not from a career politician.
That all depends on the US voters and in a Biden-Trump race he'd still be in with a decent shout.
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Throwing out labels like "Sleepy Joe" reminds one of a belligerent in a playground. If this coarse piffle doesn't galvanise his voter base, then victimhood isn't far behind.
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I know Sanders is an old man at this stage but surely he's the best thing the Dems have to offer and has been for a long time.

An imbecile could fix the US problems. Cut military spending by at least 50%, put the money into health and education and anything else that needs more funds.

It's amazing how many Americans would be against this though. The level of brainwashing is up there with North Korea. Against spending their tax dollars for socialist programs that benefit society massively but are fine with blowing it on the military.

What benefit to society is all of this military spending?, outside of job creation, which would also happen by putting the funds into other areas. At least they got to blow up a few hundred nukes in the 50's which increased the radiation levels in every living organism on the planet by 30%. USA USA USA!!!

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It's hard to say. They'll accept the likes of Trump but hold the like of Biden to a higher bar. Trump's advantage is he can be as dirty and crooked as he likes. It's almost accepted at this stage, whereas every other candidate is held to a higher level. Basically they all need play by a different rule book than Trump, who's separated children from parents, caged children, the pussy comments, the racism, the divisive rhetoric etc. And what, Biden might be racially incentive? Saunders wanting to give too much to the American people?
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End of Biden? Nah. This is ‘we’ll have to settle election” for Democrats… like Kerry was in 2004 and McCain was for the GOP in 2008. Sadly, crazy uncle Joe just comes off as too old and hasn’t been able to shine in live debates anymore. It will be a close election regardless as the democrats could run a sack of potatoes and start off with 212 electoral college votes in the election [California (55), New York (29), Illinois (20), Michigan (16), New Jersey (14), Washington (12), Massachusetts (11), Maryland (10), Minnesota (10), Oregon (7), Connecticut (7), Hawaii (4), Maine (4), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Vermont (3), as well as Washington, D.C. (3)]. 270 votes is need to win. If the economy stays relatively strong and unemployment low Trump should win reelection by a narrow margin... but as 2016 has proven anything is possible and age old formulas don't always count.

I still can't wrap my head around who he would pick as a running mate but it is sure to be a woman to counter his 'creepy' image.
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It's hard to say. They'll accept the likes of Trump but hold the like of Biden to a higher bar. Trump's advantage is he can be as dirty and crooked as he likes...
I don't think Trump would have won the Democratic nomination though, which is what Biden is chasing! And you'd have to be lacking some sort of base radar to think that now is a good time to make comments about good times with a segregationist senator.

If a Republican candidate made same comments, probably wouldn't even raise a headline.
Republicans would have different tripwires, e.g. Trump pivoting to pro-life.

Are they holding Biden to a higher bar than Bill Clinton? The 'Creepy Uncle Joe' thing seems to pale in comparison... so it could be just mud slinging by rivals for the democratic nomination trying to use any angle to gain an advantage.
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End of Biden? Nah. This is ‘we’ll have to settle election” for Democrats… like Kerry was in 2004 and McCain was for the GOP in 2008. Sadly, crazy uncle Joe just comes off as too old and hasn’t been able to shine in live debates anymore. It will be a close election regardless as the democrats could run a sack of potatoes and start off with 212 electoral college votes in the election [California (55), New York (29), Illinois (20), Michigan (16), New Jersey (14), Washington (12), Massachusetts (11), Maryland (10), Minnesota (10), Oregon (7), Connecticut (7), Hawaii (4), Maine (4), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Vermont (3), as well as Washington, D.C. (3)]. 270 votes is need to win. If the economy stays relatively strong and unemployment low Trump should win reelection by a narrow margin... but as 2016 has proven anything is possible and age old formulas don't always count.
Just curious, what would say is the Republican starting position with regard to electoral college votes?
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