Is your phone making you miserable?

Koala Sunshine · 22-02-2018 9:34am #1

Interesting video below about how people are addicted to social media on their phones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJV9BoU5Yg

Hector Bellend · 22-02-2018 11:10am

I'd rather be addicted to crack then Facebook.

Facecrack, Crackbook

branie2 · 22-02-2018 11:17am

22-02-2018 11:19am

I was miserable before I got the phone..

lawred2 · 22-02-2018 11:20am

it's not the phone's fault that people have to have an account on every bullsh!t unsocial media platform going..

you'd see it on the train every morning

lads and lasses cycling through about 5 or 6 different social media apps - round and round they go...

what the hell! · 22-02-2018 11:20am

Does it not make everyone miserable?

Koala Sunshine · 22-02-2018 11:22am

I think the rise in rates of depression this decade is caused in part by smartphones and social media. People are om their phones for hours everyday. In order to be functioning well emotionally and mentally people need to spend time in a state of presence. Too much thinking and rationalising disconnects people from their body. You need to be able to look at a tree or a sunset and just observe, without labelling and comparing. Just observe the detail of the tree or the sunset as you notice the feelings in your bed, your breath etc. Don't judge it, don't label it or conpare what you see.

s15r330 · 22-02-2018 11:22am

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'd rather be addicted to crack then Facebook.

Facecrack, Crackbook

Why both and why crack first, surely Facebook first then crack as a pick me up.

Or did you mean than?? :pac:

jimgoose · 22-02-2018 11:30am

I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 at the moment and to be honest it quite pleases me. It is an incredible machine, as powerful as a workstation from 10-12 years ago and capable of all the day-to-day bits and pieces I need, no need to faff about with a laptop. I arse about on Ye Booke Of Faeces a bit - I find that's what you make of it, depends who you pal around with and what you choose to interest yourself in. I'm 46 years old and FB notifications are either one of my idjit mates on about cars, steak or beer, or else Woman on about horses, steak or beer. WhatsApp is a rather decent IP telephony/messaging program. The rest of it I don't take much notice of. Command technology, kids - never, ever, let it command you. The Man is the Weapon. :cool::cool::D

branie2 · 22-02-2018 11:31am

Only miserable if there's no credit

jimgoose · 22-02-2018 11:32am

Koala Sunshine wrote: »

...Too much thinking and rationalising disconnects people from their body. You need to be able to look at a tree or a sunset and just observe, without labelling and comparing. Just observe the detail of the tree or the sunset as you notice the feelings in your bed, your breath etc. Don't judge it, don't label it or conpare what you see.

Slow down, slow down, I'm trying to take notes - how should we fuck off, O Lord?? :pac:

draiochtanois · 22-02-2018 11:34am

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Trigger Happy · 22-02-2018 11:35am

My phone gives me great joy. Unbridled.

Peatys · 22-02-2018 11:36am

This thread as a snapshot, 100% of people are not addicted to snapbook or instafood.

Fake news!!!!!!!!!

#hashtag

22-02-2018 11:55am

branie2 wrote: »

Only miserable if there's no credit

Does anyone over the age of about 18 still use prepay?

Your Face · 22-02-2018 11:58am

I stopped watching the video after a few seconds.
His spasm-like movements were somewhat disconcerting.

D3V!L · 22-02-2018 12:00pm

I use mine for listening to music mostly. I dont bother with Facebook anymore. Its a complete waste of time and resources. I also try and avoid crap like clickbait sites such as Buzzfeed etc.

Smart phones are a great tool, they're not an extension of your life or a form of escapism.

22-02-2018 12:09pm

draiochtanois wrote: »

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This..

This is the worst thing about the whole social media thing..the youtuber personality type..

Loads of very expressive hand movements..
Starting every conversation with 'Hey guys..'

This is the really damaging aspect of social media...Everything is persona now..

It just so happens this dude decided to go with social media ills as his chosen topic..

If it wasn't about phones he'd be making videos about Bitcoin or Call of duty..

Mossy Monk · 22-02-2018 12:11pm

Christopher Unkempt Passover wrote: »

Does anyone over the age of about 18 still use prepay?

I do. Bill pay is a waste of money for my needs. I get all I want from a €20 topup. It's rather stupid to think PAYG is only useful for young people.

eviltimeban · 22-02-2018 1:48pm

He's a bit too...

uch · 22-02-2018 4:39pm

I dropped my new phone in the Urinal when slightly inebriated and widdled all over it before I realised what had happened, fried the fecker,,, does that count as making me miserable

_Dara_ · 22-02-2018 4:43pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I do. Bill pay is a waste of money for my needs. I get all I want from a €20 topup. It's rather stupid to think PAYG is only useful for young people.

Yeah, I only recently switched to billpay at 34. I'd say many students especially still use PAYG.

ED E · 22-02-2018 4:46pm

Christopher Unkempt Passover wrote: »

Does anyone over the age of about 18 still use prepay?

Three AYCE deal cannot be beaten for data users.

Grateful Dread · 22-02-2018 4:53pm

I reckon people's phone contracts are making them miserable.

You're essentially subsidising handsets for others under the guise of purchasing minutes for exhorbatant fees, ensuring you're their customer for two years.

Who needs minutes and texts these days anyway? You can use Facetime (or Facetime audio), Whatsapp, Duo, Hangouts etc to call or send texts over data. And in the first two cases, quality is excellent.

Buy a reasonably priced phone. Get a cheap 20e per month plan with a good data allowance and stop being a slave to carriers.

I realise I've gone slightly off the point of the thread, but...

shaunr68 · 22-02-2018 4:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg

Cheerful Spring · 22-02-2018 4:55pm

Interesting topic and relevant. I was at NCT centre the other day and while waiting for my car to be tested. I noticed something 15 people in the waiting room. 13 of those people using their phone while waiting. 10 of them relatively young early twenties. Me another guy never looked at our phones. I wonder what up with that young people seem to be way more distracted?

Lorelli! · 22-02-2018 4:56pm

They ruined the pub quiz.

diceyreilly · 22-02-2018 5:01pm

Christopher Unkempt Passover wrote: »

Does anyone over the age of about 18 still use prepay?

Yes, bill is a rip off.

Schindlers Pissed · 22-02-2018 5:08pm

On a serious note, I think social media has made younger people rely too much on "fake friends" etc. I think that the amount of peer pressure due to social media is crazy....when I was a kid you only had to impress a few kids on the street, now you have to impress the internet.

Kids are looking at the perfection of Instagram and trying to achieve this, or envying the stuff that they can't have. I stopped into a service station the other night and a car beside me had five teenagers in it, all I could see was the glow of five phones. They need to realise that nobody has 500 "friends".....I can count my true, actual friends that I could call on in times of trouble on one hand.

Kids are so busy interacting on digital media that when the sh'it hits the fan they aren't able to interact with other humans properly.

I have attended a few suicides of young people in my job recently and I think the whole issue of not being able to interact with real friends or not having anywhere to turn, or the whole peer pressure thing has a lot to do with it.

Thus endeth my sermon....

22-02-2018 5:10pm

Miserable? I tend to forget about my phone most days...

Most people I know use my landline or various apps which I only have on my Ipad/PC. I don't like facebook or other such connections type sites.

_Dara_ wrote: »

Yeah, I only recently switched to billpay at 34. I'd say many students especially still use PAYG.

I'm 40 and still use PAYG.

22-02-2018 5:25pm

Schindlers Pissed wrote: »

Kids are looking at the perfection of Instagram and trying to achieve this, or envying the stuff that they can't have.

Some kids are. I've noticed that while my nieces/nephews use Instagram or other photo sharing apps, they spend most of their time laughing at what other people are doing. They haven't changed their behavior or appearance since participating. I think people underestimate many kids or teens ability to be self-confident about SM while being insecure about real life relationships.

A lot of kids/teens know the difference between social media and real life, and are able to create the true distinction beween the two.

I stopped into a service station the other night and a car beside me had five teenagers in it, all I could see was the glow of five phones. They need to realise that nobody has 500 "friends".....I can count my true, actual friends that I could call on in times of trouble on one hand.

Different culture now. I have 11 close friends I can rely on, and about 400 acquaintances i've kept in contact with through Social media, who I could ask for a favor but wouldn't be actual friends with. That's similar to the way many teens look at these things. They're able to tell the difference between actual friends, acquaintances or distant contacts on an app.

Kids are so busy interacting on digital media that when the sh'it hits the fan they aren't able to interact with other humans properly.

TBH I find kids these days to be far more socially capable than kids twenty years ago. They're generally more confident due to drama classes, dance classes, etc. There seems to be a lot of encouragement for kids to do social activities compared to when I was a teen (20+ years ago) [The activities available were different and less social]. There's little to no violence from adults towards them, bullying is far less, etc.

Personally, I think really comes down to the parents and how they shape their kids' development when it comes to technology. Yes, the kids will still gain access (you can't really stop it) but the parents can guide their kids regarding the risks, or the limitations of such communication. My parents are in their mid-70s now and struggle with most modern tech. They couldn't help me or my siblings as the tech/phone culture became more commonplace. My sister, on the other hand, is comfortable and can teach her kids about the usage from personal experience. Some boundaries are useful, like turning off the wifi at 8pm or other such measures that aren't confrontational. Seems to work for many families I know.

chrissb8 · 22-02-2018 5:50pm

Koala Sunshine wrote: »

I think the rise in rates of depression this decade is caused in part by smartphones and social media. People are om their phones for hours everyday. In order to be functioning well emotionally and mentally people need to spend time in a state of presence. Too much thinking and rationalising disconnects people from their body. You need to be able to look at a tree or a sunset and just observe, without labelling and comparing. Just observe the detail of the tree or the sunset as you notice the feelings in your bed, your breath etc. Don't judge it, don't label it or conpare what you see.

This is so true, people are always constantly "on" as it were. Taking in information processing it and then ultimately thinking on it. A constant thing continuously like that is bad.

This too much gets you caught in your own head. People need to learn to be bored and just let their mind wander off or do some of it's own thinking by itself.

_Dara_ · 22-02-2018 5:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm 40 and still use PAYG.

I only changed because I wanted an smartphone and I am totally broke.

€30 a month bill which people told me I would breach every month. Five months in and on only one month have I gone over and that was by €0.01.

It helps that I'm housebound due to illness so that I mainly just keep the mobile data switched off and use my own WiFi. That said, if I could work, I'd have plumped for higher than a €30 a month contract. I'd need it!

22-02-2018 6:03pm

diceyreilly wrote: »

Yes, bill is a rip off.

Its not, bill pay plans when in contract for a phone are obvioulsy more expensive as you are paying for your phone also but sim only bill pay plans are cheap and no messing around having to buy credit or running out etc.

aaronjumper · 22-02-2018 6:36pm

No my phone doesn't make me miserable as I don't let it control too much of my life.
Every now and again I'll throw it on silent for the evening and chill out by myself.

Christopher Unkempt Passover wrote: »

Its not, bill pay plans when in contract for a phone are obvioulsy more expensive as you are paying for your phone also but sim only bill pay plans are cheap and no messing around having to buy credit or running out etc.

I top up by €20 and get unlimited texts to any network for 28 days and more data than I can use.
After it runs out I go through my credit and when that runs out then I've to go to the shop for more.
I don't think I'd class having to go to the shop for credit every month and a half or so as messing around.

Sure I can buy milk and coffee while I'm there.

I also only use the data on my phone when I'm forced to so my battery life is around five days before I've to recharge.

freshpopcorn · 22-02-2018 7:21pm

aaronjumper wrote: »

No my phone doesn't make me miserable as I don't let it control too much of my life.
Every now and again I'll throw it on silent for the evening and chill out by myself.

I top up by €20 and get unlimited texts to any network for 28 days and more data than I can use.
After it runs out I go through my credit and when that runs out then I've to go to the shop for more.
I don't think I'd class having to go to the shop for credit every month and a half or so as messing around.

Sure I can buy milk and coffee while I'm there.

I also only use the data on my phone when I'm forced to so my battery life is around five days before I've to recharge.

You can also top up online/at the ATM or over the phone!

aaronjumper · 22-02-2018 7:26pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

You can also top up online/at the ATM or over the phone!

Pfffft. Get out of my cave you technological genius!

lertsnim · 22-02-2018 7:47pm

Christopher Unkempt Passover wrote: »

no messing around having to buy credit or running out etc.

You might have a problem alright if you are on top of a mountain nowhere near a shop/atm. Of course if you are unable to keep track of your top ups then that is another matter entirely.

Ipso · 22-02-2018 9:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Miserable? I tend to forget about my phone most days...

Most people I know use my landline or various apps which I only have on my Ipad/PC. I don't like facebook or other such connections type sites.

I'm 40 and still use PAYG.

Howya, Nidge!

Atoms for Peace · 22-02-2018 9:38pm

I was looking for a phone and then I got one and heaven knows I'm miserable now.

jonon9 · 22-02-2018 10:01pm

No I use my phone as a tool thats it.

Is your phone making you miserable?

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