Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

Clearlier · 07-01-2016 3:30pm

I'm about five days late with this one but thought some might be interested to know that Ringrose is not a stranger to Joe's training methods. IIRC he was first brought into train with the extended squad two years ago.

CMOTDibbler · 07-01-2016 4:13pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

yes, definite last year there was at least weeks training camp which meant the 4 interpro games were shorn of the internationals.

Are you sure of that? It's hard to know with rotation but POC was starting for Munster on the 1st Jan and Conor Murray in the next game on the 10th.

sydthebeat · 07-01-2016 4:19pm

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Are you sure of that? It's hard to know with rotation but POC was starting for Munster on the 1st Jan and Conor Murray in the next game on the 10th.

afair the camp was the week before christmas?

but it was plainly obvious that 'player welfare' seriously affected the quality of squads all interpros put out over that period.

eg munster v leinster game

LEINSTER:

15. Zane Kirchner
14. Darragh Fanning (Jimmy Gopperth, 64)
13. Luke Fitzgerald
12. Gordon D'Arcy
11. Dave Kearney
10. Ian Madigan
9. Isaac Boss (Luke McGrath, 64)
1. Michael Bent
2. Richardt Strauss (Aaron Dundon, 71)
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Mike McCarthy (Tom Denton, 71)
5. Kane Douglas
6. Dominic Ryan (Jordi Murphy, 14)
7. Shane Jennings CAPTAIN
8. Jack Conan

MUNSTER: F Jones CAPTAIN; A Conway, P Howard, D Hurley, R O'Mahony; I Keatley, D Williams; J Ryan, D Casey, S Archer, Donncha O'Callaghan, B Holland, CJ Stander, T O'Donnell, R Copeland.

aimee1 · 07-01-2016 4:25pm

AdamD wrote: »

15. Rob Kearney
14. Isa Nacewa CAPTAIN
13. Ben Te'o
12. Luke Fitzgerald
11. Dave Kearney
10. Johnny Sexton
9. Luke McGrath
1. Jack McGrath
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Devin Toner
5. Mike McCarthy
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Sean O'Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip

16. Sean Cronin
17. Peter Dooley
18. Marty Moore
19. Tom Denton
20. Dominic Ryan
21. Eoin Reddan
22. Ian Madigan
23. Noel Reid

Why are we bothering with Teo?

Teo gets wages, so use his ability and others need rest. Reid and ferg are out too

Tarf1234 · 07-01-2016 4:28pm

aimee1 wrote: »

Teo gets wages, so use his ability and others need rest. Reid and ferg are out too

Reid is on the bench

07-01-2016 4:38pm

Reid gets a hard time on here and I think he adds a lot for us in attack. He definitely needs to work on his defensive guile but I think if he sorts this out there is a lot of quality there and him and Ringrose could well tear things up. Hope his season kicks on.

Interested Observer · 07-01-2016 4:47pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Reid gets a hard time on here and I think he adds a lot for us in attack. He definitely needs to work on his defensive guile but I think if he sorts this out there is a lot of quality there and him and Ringrose could well tear things up. Hope his season kicks on.

I don't disagree with you on his attacking abilities but he's an absolute liability in defence. To the point where it looks like he shirks contact on occasion, which is an awful thing to say about a rugby player.

07-01-2016 4:54pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

I don't disagree with you on his attacking abilities but he's an absolute liability in defence. To the point where it looks like he shirks contact on occasion, which is an awful thing to say about a rugby player.

Yeah there have been two stand out occasions where he really didn't commit to a tackle and this notion has developed since then. But the reality is that this guy has been playing rugby for a long time and I'd say those were situational errors rather than pointing to a more deep rooted fear of tackling.

Either that or he was carrying a knock of some description.

Regardless, it's his defensive positioning at times and the lack of impact when he tackles that is more of a concern for me. You see Dave Kearney absolutely milling players into touch regularly, Reid doesn't seem to have anything like this kind of power in his hits.

aimee1 · 07-01-2016 6:35pm

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Reid is on the bench

Didnt read the subs list. But point is the same. Cant have teo collecting wages for training everyday.

sheep? · 07-01-2016 6:53pm

aimee1 wrote: »

Didnt read the subs list. But point is the same. Cant have teo collecting wages for training everyday.

Yeah that's for Zane. :pac:

Jawgap · 08-01-2016 11:58am

Bryan Cullen lands High Performance Manager role with Dublin GAA

Dublin's gain is Leinster's loss!

ArmchairQB · 08-01-2016 12:09pm

Jawgap wrote: »

Bryan Cullen lands High Performance Manager role with Dublin GAA

Dublin's gain is Leinster's loss!

Plenty of really good guys out there now with huge experience so wouldn't be concerned

Riskymove · 08-01-2016 1:30pm

Jawgap wrote: »

Bryan Cullen lands High Performance Manager role with Dublin GAA

Dublin's gain is Leinster's loss!

Headline was "Cullen to leave Leinster for Dublin Role":rolleyes:

salmocab · 08-01-2016 1:39pm

Id imagine its good for guys like that to move to other sports and see how things are done and it will probably something that will happen more especially with ex GAA and rugby players who because of the 2 sports setups are likely to have qualifications when they retire from playing. Wasn't Flannery with Arsenal for a year or two before going back to Munster.

Bazzo · 08-01-2016 1:48pm

salmocab wrote: »

Id imagine its good for guys like that to move to other sports and see how things are done and it will probably something that will happen more especially with ex GAA and rugby players who because of the 2 sports setups are likely to have qualifications when they retire from playing. Wasn't Flannery with Arsenal for a year or two before going back to Munster.

Himself and Johnny O'Connor were there doing fitness I think. O'Connor might still be?

stephen_n · 08-01-2016 2:19pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

I don't disagree with you on his attacking abilities but he's an absolute liability in defence. To the point where it looks like he shirks contact on occasion, which is an awful thing to say about a rugby player.

I don't think he shirks it, he does sandbag though. His latest injury seemed to come directly from poor body positioning in the tackle. Which if iirc was the second time in as many minutes he managed to do the same in that game.

aimee1 · 08-01-2016 5:31pm

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MB678 · 08-01-2016 9:11pm

What a try! Great crossfield kick and fantastic play by D.Kearney to get over the tryline.

CatFromHue · 08-01-2016 10:39pm

We've only lost 2 in the league so far and the record is only losing 3.

I think we'll come close to that this season.

Interested Observer · 08-01-2016 10:40pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

We've only lost 2 in the league so far and the record is only losing 3.

I think we'll come close to that this season.

Also have 9 wins already, only got 11 in the entire season last year so huge improvement, in the league at least.

Stheno · 08-01-2016 10:40pm

And top of the table with a game in hand.

vienne86 · 08-01-2016 10:42pm

Stheno wrote: »

And top of the table with a game in hand.

Hmmm the game in hand is Glasgow away.

sheep? · 08-01-2016 10:46pm

vienne86 wrote: »

Hmmm the game in hand is Glasgow away.

During the 6N, isn't it? Should make it a little more interesting.

Neil3030 · 08-01-2016 10:47pm

7 league wins in a row now, and that includes Ospreys, Connacht, Munster, Ulster, Scarlets and Glasgow.

molloyjh · 08-01-2016 10:48pm

sheep? wrote: »

During the 6N, isn't it? Should make it a little more interesting.

Glasgow have been poor this season. I wouldn't be as worried about that fixture as I was last season at all.

molloyjh · 08-01-2016 10:50pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

7 league wins in a row now, and that includes Ospreys, Connacht, Munster, Ulster, Scarlets and Glasgow.

Yeah Edinburgh are the only top 8 side missing from that list. Very happy with our form in the league. We're still getting better too.

awec · 08-01-2016 10:51pm

Have to be favourites to win it with this current form.

Neil3030 · 08-01-2016 10:55pm

Best D in the league too. Only 11.3 points per game conceded.

irishbucsfan · 08-01-2016 11:03pm

The addition of Nacewa and Sexton is so huge. It's guys like Nacewa we need in games like that.

Where we replace him from next time though I have no idea.

Teferi · 08-01-2016 11:06pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Where we replace him from next time though I have no idea.

Let's worry about that in 2 years.

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread VI: End of the MOC [Revenge of the STH]

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