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Recommend a cordless drill

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  • 10-05-2021 11:29pm
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    Snotty
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    Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

    Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
    Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter :) made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.


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    Mike2006
    Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Mike2006


    Hi,

    Really depends on your budget.
    I would consider this to be a good value twin kit with a few good features:
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    • impact driver for screws
    • two batteries with a decent capacity (4Ah each)
    • good combi-drill with hammer function
      LIST]

      Good value at €240 (imo) which would be up to most if not all DIY jobs...

      Mike


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    greasepalm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Have a look on screwfix website as it gets reviews from the users who bought it.


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    #4
    Fine Cheers
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Parkside range by Lidl do the job for me - occasional DIY. Go for the larger battery if possible.


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    Krombopulos Michael
    Registered Users Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    I went with Ryobi for my drill and impact driver. One of the things I spent time on is deciding which battery eco system I wanted to buy into. As Ryobi basically havent changed the battery shape in a very long time, I can use the same battery on my drill, leaf blower, strimmer etc.

    Just something to consider if you are expecting to go cordless with other tools in the future.


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    Snotty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    This drill is in Aldi,, €120. Cannot see it on the Irish site but there was a few of them for sale last night when I was in.
    Is the 2ah battery enough?

    https://www.aldi.co.uk/scheppach-mobile-workshop-drill/p/804247467611800


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    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Snotty wrote: »
    Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

    Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
    Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter :) made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.

    Buy once, buy right and never buy again.

    Have a range of Black & decker (Poor enough), Makita (pretty good but the older models, not sure if new stuff is as good) and Dewalt (always seems to stand up).

    If you plan on making holes in concrete get a good sds - goes through like butter.


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    tDw6u1bj
    Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tDw6u1bj


    Snotty wrote: »
    I use... a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
    Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter

    It's not really a matter of a good drill, it's the one that's right for the job. It sounds like the larger drill you've been using for concrete is just the wrong kind.

    For masonry, anything except a SDS drill is a waste of time. These do go through masonry like butter but usually aren't "very small". Combi-drills have a masonry function, but it's very slow for anything but very soft materials. Sounds like this guy either had one of the few SDS drills that could be called small, or was using a combi-drill and went through the mortar instead of the brick. SDS drill can be got in lidl for as little as 35, but normally they start at about 100

    Other than that you have

    cordless (and combi) dare for drilling standard holes and are all-rounders, if you only get one drill this is what you get.

    Impact drivers which are for screwing in screws. They have a chuck which is designed for only taking screw bits so you don't use them for drilling (you can get drill bits that fit, but they're expensive for something that might break and tend to be wobbly anyway). Doesn't sound that great but feels kind of life-changing once you start using them (same with SDS tbh).

    If you've got the money then treat yourself to a nice dewalt/makita/etc if your pockets will take it but for home use I'd try and get all three before moving to better brands.


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    The Continental Op
    Registered Users Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Is there some way we can put together a Drill FAQ? Questions about drill recommendation have to be fairly common.

    While the brand recommendations may change a little overtime there are a few things that don't change .....

    Drill types

    Plain Drilling/Screwing

    Impact driver (perhaps not strictly a drill)

    Hammer drill (normally a feature of a combi drill)

    SDS ​

    Battery V Corded

    Brushes V brushless

    Battery Voltage and Amperage.

    Chuck types

    Bit types sizes and uses

    Lidl/Aldi Drills V big brand names

    etc etc

    The B&Q Drill buying guide covers a lot of it.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    The Continental Op
    Registered Users Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Snotty wrote: »
    This drill is in Aldi,, €120. Cannot see it on the Irish site but there was a few of them for sale last night when I was in.
    Is the 2ah battery enough?

    https://www.aldi.co.uk/scheppach-mobile-workshop-drill/p/804247467611800

    That could be a good drill but I'm not sure if I was buying I wouldn't stick to a brand (even Lidl or Aldi's own brands) were the batteries could be used in another tool. However for someone who only wants a drill thats not a bad choice.

    Plus a three year warranty.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    dodzy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,930 ✭✭✭dodzy


    Snotty wrote: »
    Going to treat myself to a new drill, only do the usual DIY with a bit of wood work, anyone have a recommendation?

    Currently have a b&d 12v that I use for screw etc and a large power drill for if I need to drill into concrete etc.
    Had a guy in fitting broadband and he had what I would call a very small and neat cordless drill that drilled through the concrete like it was butter :) made me realise my 20+ year old drills could do with an update.

    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt#product_additional_details_container

    You can thank me after you’ve used them ;)


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    mickuhaha
    Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭mickuhaha


    If you're buying a drill for concrete you would need to find the drills impact energy rating not to be confused with an impact drill. The sds drills have a high impact rating normally over 6J. This is what makes them go through concrete like butter. Most of the cordless sds drills would be under 2.5J. so if you're dealing with fresh concrete the cordless would do but if its anything older that 15 year old concrete I would get a corded sds. They also have the bonus of being able to chisel.


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    Silent night
    Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭Silent night


    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt

    I got these can't fault them


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    Wolftown
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Wolftown


    I've a Black and Decker combi. Has served me well over the past 2 years.

    Will go through concrete on hammer setting, but certainly not like butter..so it depends how much concrete drilling you plan to do really.

    Kit also came with 2 batteries which is handy.


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    dodzy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,930 ✭✭✭dodzy


    mickuhaha wrote: »
    If you're buying a drill for concrete you would need to find the drills impact energy rating not to be confused with an impact drill. The sds drills have a high impact rating normally over 6J. This is what makes them go through concrete like butter. Most of the cordless sds drills would be under 2.5J. so if you're dealing with fresh concrete the cordless would do but if its anything older that 15 year old concrete I would get a corded sds. They also have the bonus of being able to chisel.

    Highly inaccurate post that only serves to confuse those unfamiliar with power tools.

    Sub 2.5 joules perfectly fine for concrete SDS work
    Cordless SDS unit can chisel too


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    Snotty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    tDw6u1bj wrote: »
    It's not really a matter of a good drill, it's the one that's right for the job. It sounds like the larger drill you've been using for concrete is just the wrong kind.

    No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v :)

    I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup


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    The Continental Op
    Registered Users Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Snotty wrote: »
    No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v :)

    I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup

    Really nothing wrong with 12V I used a 12V Hitachi for years. In the end I couldn't get replacement batteries for it.

    Then if you only occasionally need to drill into brick then getting the extension lead out will save you quids on batteries sat doing nothing.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    dodzy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,930 ✭✭✭dodzy


    Snotty wrote: »
    No the corded drill is definitely the right tool for it, it's just that it is large, heavy and obviously needs to be plugged in so even for drilling a small hole in brickwork requires the extension cable out and I was just admiring the newer drills that are obviously more advanced than my 20 year old 12v :)

    I think the dewalt twin pack seems like a good choice however if that aldi drill gets reduced to sub €100, seen there are a good few of them there over week, I'd be tempted even as a backup

    Get away from the corded stuff. Buy the set I linked...and then just pick up a 133 or a 253 naked (both are SDS). You’ll already have the batteries. Then your drilling arsenal will be complete ;)


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    askU
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭askU


    Would anyone recommend Argos for power tools? Looking at the website, prices are competitive.


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    Fine Cheers
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Picked up a black and decker mini angle grinder in Argos for a tenner cheaper than Woodies, exact same type. No harm to use Argos to compare prices but do your homework on actual spec of tool.


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    The Red Ace
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The Red Ace


    as there seems to be always a good bit of advice here re tools have you come across the brand Kielder, they are made in Yorkshire mostly supplied with 4ah interchangeable batteries and brushless motors with 3 year warranty. I got their 750 newton meter 1/2 inch impact driver last year for E 236 and it is a serious piece of kit, (google Kielder tools) or find them on facebook.


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    niallers1
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭niallers1


    DeWalt 18v cordless from Screwfix.
    Excellent drills from DeWalt.


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    TimHorton
    Registered Users Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭TimHorton


    dodzy wrote: »
    https://www.screwfix.ie/p/dewalt-dck2060m2t-sfgb-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-xr-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/362jt#product_additional_details_container

    You can thank me after you’ve used them ;)

    I have these https://www.screwfix.ie/p/milwaukee-m18-fpp2a2-502x-fuel-18v-5-0ah-li-ion-redlithium-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/133fj

    Plus

    https://www.caulfieldindustrial.com/p/milwaukee-m18ffn-502c-18v-m18-fuel-framing-nailer-2-x-5ah-batteries/p-h13192

    Got all 3 Tools + 2 5 amh batteries for €350 Total on HomeDepot + €60 Address Pal fees and duty

    Details of HomeDepot Deal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRm5fvGrqD0&t=2s

    Savage Tools


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,387 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    askU wrote: »
    Would anyone recommend Argos for power tools? Looking at the website, prices are competitive.

    Depends, their own brand stuff like Guild is muck.


    Best bang for buck is Lidl 20v (€25) plus 2ah battery and charger (€25) plus spare 2ah battery (€16)

    They sometimes do a hammer version for €30 too.

    Great warranty.


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    Snotty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Depends, their own brand stuff like Guild is muck.


    Best bang for buck is Lidl 20v (€25) plus 2ah battery and charger (€25) plus spare 2ah battery (€16)

    They sometimes do a hammer version for €30 too.

    Great warranty.

    How often would these come into Lidl?


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,387 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    A few times a year


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    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Snotty wrote: »
    How often would these come into Lidl?

    Keep an eye, often seen builders go in a fleece the stuff, lads i know who do contract work and have guys working for them swear by the Lidl stuff.

    Now their reasoning is the lads they have wreck everything no matter how good and the Lidl stuff does the job.


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    TimHorton
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    FileNotFound wrote: »
    Keep an eye, often seen builders go in a fleece the stuff, lads i know who do contract work and have guys working for them swear by the Lidl stuff.

    Now their reasoning is the lads they have wreck everything no matter how good and the Lidl stuff does the job.[/QUOTE

    Builders buy cheap and burn them out and go again , Disposable.


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    tDw6u1bj
    Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭tDw6u1bj


    TimHorton wrote: »

    Builders buy cheap and burn them out and go again , Disposable.

    Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.


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    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,015 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    tDw6u1bj wrote: »
    Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.

    The specific use I saw referred to in a Youtube video was using the battery end of a drill/impact driver as a lump hammer. :D


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    Fine Cheers
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    tDw6u1bj wrote: »
    Lidl tools aren't built to take the abuse of a site, but with a regular home user they'll only ever see occasional use and are plenty up to the job.

    Spot on !


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