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  • 04-03-2021 2:58pm
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I’ve moved house and now in a rural setting with c. 1 acre of land.

    Thinking of getting chickens.

    Where do I start? What do I need (besides chickens!)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭amytomjerry


    I have chickens and the one thing needed is a fox proof run considering you are in a rural location...the best way to keep the little hens safe is to run electric wire around their enclosure.

    Hens are very easy to keep, all they desire is fresh water, pellets and some grass...they love to roam and have dust baths..

    I keep mine in a garden shed adapted for them...have 3 roosts and a couple of plastic drums as nest boxes...I use shavings or straw as bedding..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    in expensive to keep and a laying hen will pay back your investment of time etc. in spades. Great also if you have young children it helps to teach them important skills.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Any recommendations on coops/runs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭amytomjerry


    godtabh wrote: »
    Any recommendations on coops/runs?

    Electric Poultry netting is the way to go..you are free to move it around and it simply connects to a battery..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    A securely fenced in hen run, with a secure house.
    The house should have perches, and nest boxes
    DONT get two hens - if one dies you will be left with a lonely single hen. Always good to go with a decent number - eg 6 hens, which will give you enough eggs for your family and for friends if surplus - if you have the space
    Important to be able to ENCLOSE them safely (ie netting that is dug into the ground) for when you close them into their coop at night, and also for when you are away from home.
    Feeders can be made DIY or get some actual hen feeders - at very least two to prevent bullying - preferably with 'hats' on to keep the grain dry
    Water drinkers - again you can use old dishes or whatever, or buy specific water drinkers. Make sure they are easy to wash/keep clean. They need to be topped up or kept full every day.
    Find a local supplier/farmers coop or whatever for LAYERS PELLETS or LAYERS MASH - these are complete food for hens. After that anything you give them (scraps from the kitchen etc) is just icing on the cake.
    Put some quality Apple Cider VInegar on the list, to add a little to their water
    Some straw or bedding for their nest boxes
    Purple spray (Gentian) in your Hen First Aid kit - you will be very glad when there is a need for it - also some hibiscrub or sudocrem
    Cleaning materials you will find out about as you go along - their coop if a small
    one will need to be cleaned very regularly
    Make an compost bin area for the dirty straw/whatever bedding
    Collect eggs every morning, to prevent issues
    Decide if you are going to let them free range around your property. They will be far happier, but the issues of fox or neighbours (your?) dogs etc will need to be considered
    Make the BIGGEST run you can manage - if they are not freeranging, this is critical - but even if they are going to free range its good to consider keeping them in the run until they have laid their eggs (to save you hunting for the stash of eggs hidden elsewhere on your acre!)
    Get your hens from a REPUTABLE source - its critical that you do this or you could be fobbed off with anything - including cockerals! Point of Lay is what you want - good time of year to be getting them now too
    Good luck - keeping hens can be addictive, the quality of the eggs is far superior to anything in shops (or maybe we hen keepers tell ourselves that, to keep us sane!) - hens can be very tame and great fun too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭angelic123


    hi, we are also thinking of getting chickens and were considering 2. are they very dirty i.e. how much do they soil in comparison to any other animal and if you have a small dog , will the dog be a threat to the hens or should they be ok?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    angelic123 wrote: »
    hi, we are also thinking of getting chickens and were considering 2. are they very dirty i.e. how much do they soil in comparison to any other animal and if you have a small dog , will the dog be a threat to the hens or should they be ok?

    DONT get 2 hens - if one dies you will be left with one hen, and hens are flock creatures - go for 3 absolute minimum. They poo :cool: If they freerange they will poo on your patio/outside your back door. If you have a decent sized garden, and only 3 hens, you wont notice their poo particularly (except on the patio/back door!) If the dog is the aggressive type, he could easily kill them. You can train a small dog to let the hens be, but you will have to monitor that situation until you are confident the hens are safe while you dog is there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭MRTULES


    Sorry to hijack but just wondering if anyone here knows if there are any restrictions or licenses required to keep a few chickens?
    Based in South Dublin.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Yes, if you keep poultry, no matter how many, you are supposed to register your flock with the Department of Agriculture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    I've 8 birds and built my own run/coop.
    Remember that when it rains, the run will be muddy unless covered.

    I've enough eggs for ourselves and we sell the rest at the gate.it covers the feed costs.

    I'm not sentimental. They are livestock. When they get sick or stop laying. I end their lives and get new ones. Price is anywhere from 9-15e depending on breed.
    You may want pets and not mind paying a vet for medication which may not work. What you will do with them in such cases is an important thing to consider. It's part of keeping them.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Is the traditional way of killing them still a thing?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Any recommendations of fencing? Lots out there.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    What's your set-up like, and what do you want it to be like? Electric poultry netting is worth its weight in gold, in my opinion! It creates a very effective deterrent to predators, it keeps the chucks in, it's movable, it's relatively cheap... we have loads of it containing a large area here after faffing about with other alternatives for a couple of years. Wouldn't be without it now!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I have no set up at the moment. I am just setting up and want to get it right at the start. Have an acre of land to work with


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    godtabh wrote: »
    Any recommendations of fencing? Lots out there.

    Depends on what you can afford, and how big you want it to be.
    Ive got approx 6" posts, with chicken wire type wire all around. Its dug into the ground all the way around the run too. Ive got paving slabs all the way around the run (to prevent digging) Ive got a 'roof' of strong plastic netting on top (mostly to keep out wild birds - but also to deter others)
    Ive got several cats and dogs, so have not had an issue with foxes, and dont think there are any mink or pine martins etc in this area. Electric Fencing is certainly worth considering if you have any animals that will try to get into your hens.

    If I had the option when building our set up, I would have gone for those metal fence panels with posts that click together - dont know what they're called


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I’ve rabbits outside in a big run and no issues so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    aonb wrote: »
    Get your hens from a REPUTABLE source - its critical that you do this or you could be fobbed off with anything - including cockerals! Point of Lay is what you want - good time of year to be getting them

    How do you know a reputable source for hens? I plan on picking up 10 or 12 next month once my hen area is finished.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    How do you know a reputable source for hens? I plan on picking up 10 or 12 next month once my hen area is finished.

    Personally, I prefer to buy pullets from small-scale keepers who specialise in a small number of breeds, and takes a bit of pride in what they do! I'm not particularly interested in buying from people who have lines of small breeding pens, just churning out fertile eggs at the cost of a decent free range life for the hens and roosters.
    Personal recommendations from other hen owners may be useful, or if buying from online sources, you might try to get a feel for the sellers, call them and talk to them about what they do.
    Having said that, many first-time owners buy from the main dealers... you'll get decent enough birds from them, but you need to be aware they're going to have been mass-produced.
    If it's little red hybrid hens you're after, the ones everyone called Rhode Island Reds but they're not :D, you won't get them from anything other than mass-produced sources.
    Or perhaps you're thinking of rescuing ex-commercials?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    How do you know a reputable source for hens? I plan on picking up 10 or 12 next month once my hen area is finished.

    No harm in asking locally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    Thanks I'll ask around. Just when i saw the reputable source, i was worried on some of the done-deal adds. I don't want to be starting with trouble as they will be for the kids


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭aonb


    Thanks I'll ask around. Just when i saw the reputable source, i was worried on some of the done-deal adds. I don't want to be starting with trouble as they will be for the kids

    When I said reputable source OP, I meant from someone who KNOWS what they are doing. I know someone who bought 6 pretty point of lay hens from a local teenager, who advertised them for sale. Turns out FIVE of them were cockerels!
    I also know a few people who bought pullets that were NOT healthy, and brought all sorts of trouble into their flocks.

    So basically, buy from someone who looks like they know what they are doing - who has a 'nice' set up (if you are picking up the pullets) - a clean set up - nice bright birds, preferably free ranging. Tricky when you are buying your first hens, but have a look at their eyes, their nares, their legs. Their combs and wattles wont be very big if they're young, but alert and perky and clean looking! Find out if they're sexed, and if you get cockerels, can you bring them back :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    So I have a large coop with 3m run ordered.

    I have also got an area of c. 40sq.m that I will be fencing off soon. The base will be a chicken wire, covered with weed barrier and bark mulch.

    I was thinking of using this netting as a fence. Any one every use it?

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/shop/product/Windbreak-Netting/B9003852


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Had Hens for years, never fenced them in during the day, in the countryside we have never had foxes come after them in day time hours.
    A good hen house that can be secured when they can come in for the night is all you need.
    Bit of training required at the start - like herding silly cattle haha.
    But once routine is in they are pretty easy to work with.
    Make sure the hen house has a few perch levels - helps sort the pecking order out.


    As for who to buy from - most local marts will have people who call and sell (Ours always has anyway) - get a few pullets (pre lay) and give them a few weeks to get going.

    One thing to watch is that they don't start trying to lay in the ditch somewhere - you'll here them laying so you should be able to notice it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Springwell


    godtabh wrote: »
    So I have a large coop with 3m run ordered.

    I have also got an area of c. 40sq.m that I will be fencing off soon. The base will be a chicken wire, covered with weed barrier and bark mulch.

    I was thinking of using this netting as a fence. Any one every use it?

    https://www.glanbiaconnect.com/shop/product/Windbreak-Netting/B9003852

    That netting is very easily ripped. Either use chicken wire or gameflex netting (I much prefer the later)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Any recommendations on where to source hen equipment and hens themselfves?

    I have the area set up and looking to stock it in the coming weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    godtabh wrote: »
    Any recommendations on where to source hen equipment and hens themselfves?

    I have the area set up and looking to stock it in the coming weeks.

    Local Coop store for any bits and feed.

    Local Mart for our hens.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    godtabh wrote: »
    Any recommendations on where to source hen equipment and hens themselfves?

    I have the area set up and looking to stock it in the coming weeks.

    MacEoin Poultry are very good, very quick delivery with online orders.
    Look up the poultry section of the advertising websites and suss out the different people selling birds. You should start to figure out that some breeders produce a small number of breeds or hybrids, and do it well. They know their breeds and know what will suit you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Demonique


    If you allow them to free range they may come into your house. The last two we had used to come in the back door any chance they could. One died and I remember the remaining hen coming in the back door to get at the dog's dry food, used to hear her pecking from two rooms over


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Demonique wrote: »
    If you allow them to free range they may come into your house. The last two we had used to come in the back door any chance they could. One died and I remember the remaining hen coming in the back door to get at the dog's dry food, used to hear her pecking from two rooms over

    If they came into the house they got a free flying lesson around our house.
    They literally sh1t everywhere haha.

    Ours have always been true free range and the sheepdogs keep an eye on them.

    They tend not to go far these days - just luck that the older ones we introduced the current crop to were very settled and stuck to our areas.


    Hens are great in how dim they are - if you always lead them left when they exit the hen house they will never bother going right. Bit of early training makes them easy to work with.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Looking to expand the flock of 3 to 12 or so. Has anyone used these cages? I'd be grateful of a steer. Thanks.

    4M x 3M Hen Run | Heavy Duty Metal Enclosure Cage for Birds (inthemarket.ie)

    Chicken Pen - 4m x 3m | Pets.ie | Ireland



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