Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

Seth Brundle · 19-12-2019 9:33am

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Some van driver in a small navy blue van (letters vss or similar)

ISS?

Zzippy · 19-12-2019 11:27am

magicbastarder wrote: »

is it legal to cycle no-hands, pulling *two* bikes alongside, one in each hand?

Not only is it legal, you get a medal from the President for pulling it off...

Effects · 19-12-2019 11:29pm

Zzippy wrote: »

Not only is it legal, you get a medal from the President for pulling it off...

How do you pull it off if you're using both your hands on the two bikes?

20-12-2019 12:33am

I'd put that up there with the question as to how to wipe your backside with 2 broken collar bones

bingobars · 20-12-2019 11:53pm

Finding it impossible to get a reply to a complaint with Bus Éireann. I was nearly flattened by a bus that ran a junction in May. I filed a complaint within 2 hours providing all the details of bus, route, google maps image of spot, time and date and requested footage as part of the complaint. Unfortunately I didn’t have my Cycliq as it was on another bike at the time. I got a reply asking for my contact number initially but dead air ever since.

Anyway the incident. I was in a junction moving to exit from it and could hear a bus moving at a fairly handy speed towards the only blind entry to it. It was 100m into pace building from a stop and was emitting that distinctive bus roar. I decided to make a stop in the junction and let the driver continue to accelerate through the Yield sign. I could see the shock in the drivers face as he saw me pulling to a stop as he crossed my path. I would have been flattened.

Anyway no joy from Bus Éireann to date. I’ve pulled the GDPR line on further requests as I feel entitled to the footage of the driver running the junction and will keep filing complaint tickets for now (anyone got any tips??).

Finally. The most memorable part of the story after was when I told a ‘comedian’ creative colleague at work and he managed to mock up the entire incident in hilarious format. It’s the complete reverse of what happened me on the morning.

Anyway. For giggles

https://gfycat.com/jovialgrandacouchi

fryup · 21-12-2019 12:01am

magicbastarder wrote: »

is it legal to cycle no-hands, pulling *two* bikes alongside, one in each hand?

have you actually seen this?

magicbastarder · 21-12-2019 10:44am

no, but i await with bated breath.

Eamonnator · 21-12-2019 12:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd put that up there with the question as to how to wipe your backside with 2 broken collar bones

or my favourite:
Can you pick up teeth with broken fingers?

eeeee · 22-12-2019 12:20am

Eamonnator wrote: »

or my favourite:
Can you pick up teeth with broken fingers?

Jesus that's grim :eek:

22-12-2019 1:07am

eeeee wrote: »

Jesus that's grim :eek:

He was playing bad cop when he'd use that line, good cop would have picked up the teeth for the poor unfortunate with the broken fingers :P

Utter Consternation · 24-12-2019 10:32am

magicbastarder · 24-12-2019 1:49pm

had a frank exchange of views with the driver of a black X5 outbound on the howth road approaching killester about half an hour ago. he jammed on and swung hard into the cycle lane without indicating while a couple of metres in front of me.
i may have gotten the red mist and slapped his wing mirror.
i may have also forgotten to wish him a happy christmas.

Acquiescence · 27-12-2019 2:14pm

Some of the driving I've witnessed over the past few days is incredible.

I've had to jam on and swerve at 40kph+ twice for people pulling straight across me at junctions with no hardshoulder.

One guy yesterday was totally oblivious to me even as I whispered in his window at him for a good ten seconds. When he finally looked at me it was clear he had no idea I was there despite being the only road user within 200m of him and having come down a straight stretch of road before he looked through me and pulled out.

Pa ElGrande · 29-12-2019 9:41pm

A cyclist narrowly escaped death after being run over by a truck in northern China's Tianjin on December 19.

http://nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=Cyq3-Rf6NIA

He has some minor injuries and can walk away, but damn lucky to be alive.
Notice the cultural difference between China and a country like Ireland, nobody gets out of their car to help him.

CramCycle · 29-12-2019 11:22pm

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Notice the cultural difference between China and a country like Ireland, nobody gets out of their car to help him.

Trying lying on the road in Dublin, I have had people drive around me before

tnegun · 29-12-2019 11:24pm

Yup my neighbor came off coming into the estate and 2 other neighbors just drove around him while he was sitting there

CramCycle · 30-12-2019 12:48am

Actually, just watched the video, only two others there. He was moving etc. No cultural differences at all

Oberkon · 30-12-2019 1:24pm

Encountered some terrible driving around Dublin in the last couple of days , even more so than usual .
Little spin to Howth yesterday between Sutton x and Howth village I had 3 incidents alone of close calls . 2 of them from Audi drivers .

There is a running joke in our house when I have a close call or punishment pass . Was it an Audi ?? Yes luv

AndrewJRenko · 30-12-2019 5:37pm

CramCycle wrote: »

Trying lying on the road in Dublin, I have had people drive around me before

I trust you apologised for the inconvenience you caused them as they passed?

coolbeans · 30-12-2019 5:47pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

was driving through oldtown at 8:30pm this evening, two people out on bikes on an unlit road, but it was OK because they were both wearing builders vests.

Bonus points if the builder vest is RSA branded.

Pinch Flat · 30-12-2019 6:57pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I trust you apologised for the inconvenience you caused them as they passed?

I've found motorists beep in support of you've come down in front of them. They'll never get those few seconds back

CramCycle · 31-12-2019 12:40pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I trust you apologised for the inconvenience you caused them as they passed?

I did get tutted once, I foolisly thought he was stopping to check on me, I was OK but still on the ground. Rolled around me, rolled down the window and loudly tutted before driving off.

tnegun · 31-12-2019 8:16pm

Just to finish out the year in style

Clueless Pedestrian
Pointless Pass
Close Pass

Seth Brundle · 01-01-2020 12:30pm

For reference, when I went to my local station a month ago with both front and rear camera footage of a dangerously stupid overtake attempt, I was told that the garda could only proceed with the new law if I went to court (as otherwise it was my word against theirs and the footage wasn't evidence per se) :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/Cyclistie/status/1211701180038029312?s=19

AndrewJRenko · 01-01-2020 3:11pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

For reference, when I went to my local station a month ago with both front and rear camera footage of a dangerously stupid overtake attempt, I was told that the garda could only proceed with the new law if I went to court (as otherwise it was my word against theirs and the footage wasn't evidence per se) :rolleyes:

This is generally the case with any video evidence afaik - it needs to be accompanied by the person who can say "I took this video on this date at this location" at a minimum.

The UK have better systems and legal processes that allow cyclists to submit video footage online and fines/points are issued automatically, which would be great - but we're a long way off that here.

sy_flembeck · 01-01-2020 11:45pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

For reference, when I went to my local station a month ago with both front and rear camera footage of a dangerously stupid overtake attempt, I was told that the garda could only proceed with the new law if I went to court (as otherwise it was my word against theirs and the footage wasn't evidence per se) :rolleyes:

Is there a problem with going to court? I have made 4 traffic watch complaints. Thus far none of them has gone to court but if they did then so be it

Seth Brundle · 02-01-2020 12:22am

sy_flembeck wrote: »

Is there a problem with going to court? I have made 4 traffic watch complaints. Thus far none of them has gone to court but if they did then so be it

No but what's the point of the new law and video evidence if I still have to spend an hour in the station doing out a statement and then take a day off work to visit court over some ignorant prick? It's more of a punishment on me than the driver!

sy_flembeck · 02-01-2020 12:30am

Seth Brundle wrote: »

No but what's the point of the new law and video evidence if I still have to spend an hour in the station doing out a statement and then take a day off work to visit court over some ignorant prick? It's more of a punishment on me than the driver!

Fair enough. I wasn't being argumentative by the way, just curious

Steoller · 02-01-2020 12:59pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

No but what's the point of the new law and video evidence if I still have to spend an hour in the station doing out a statement and then take a day off work to visit court over some ignorant prick? It's more of a punishment on me than the driver!

Does the law need to be changed to allow video submission like in the UK?
Is it an internal garda procedure that prevents flexibility here, or a restriction in law?

Pinch Flat · 02-01-2020 1:03pm

Took the bike down home over Christmas and got out for a quick 50km spin around county Waterford. Only a few hundred meters out of the house when a woman in a car squeezes through this roundabout - I'd already signaled I was taking primary and moving right, but she bullied on through nevertheless. Almost brushed me as she passed.

https://goo.gl/maps/m4CdaAReq7w2hfMX6

Her two outer wheels were on the concrete part around the roundabout as she passed me. Two kids strapped in the back. She was genuinely oblivious to me. Using a bright strobe, usual hi vis etc.

Went out for a club spin on New Years eve. Tullow Oil tanker overtakes us (a group of 8, travelling two abreast, nice and tight) then left hooks us at a Y-junction. Totally pointless and dangerous.

Seth Brundle · 02-01-2020 2:17pm

Steoller wrote: »

Does the law need to be changed to allow video submission like in the UK?
Is it an internal garda procedure that prevents flexibility here, or a restriction in law?

According to the fella in Leixlip station, in the eyes of the law it's my word against hers and the video is only there to support me. The video on its own is not sufficient for anything

magicbastarder · 02-01-2020 2:45pm

For chain of evidence purposes, I can see why the complainant would need to be in court. You'd expect a much smaller chance of having to go to court, if the person caught on camera knows they've been caught on camera, they'd be more likely to accept the charge?

AndrewJRenko · 02-01-2020 3:37pm

Steoller wrote: »

Does the law need to be changed to allow video submission like in the UK?
Is it an internal garda procedure that prevents flexibility here, or a restriction in law?

Not sure which needs to change, or possibly both - but certainly AGS need to take some serious action here.

Steoller · 02-01-2020 5:45pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

According to the fella in Leixlip station, in the eyes of the law it's my word against hers and the video is only there to support me. The video on its own is not sufficient for anything

That is strange. My complaint from last February is (finally) going to court, and I have not been required to attend - they are proceeding off the back of the footage I submitted. And my complaint was an incident in Celbridge, which should be under the same Super as leixlip.

Seth Brundle · 02-01-2020 5:49pm

It possibly depends on the garda on the desk

Pinch Flat · 02-01-2020 5:52pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

It possibly depends on the garda on the desk

Dunno about that. I reported a crazy close pass in February 2019 - I was basically forced off the road by a white van man, who overtook me to get in behind a slow moving bus that I was cycling behind. Brought the video to the garda on duty at Pearse Street, who said he was a keen cyclist and agreed it was very dangerous. Have yet to hear anything.

downtheroad · 02-01-2020 7:40pm

Cyclist down in Killester this evening, at junction of Collins Avenue and Howth Road. Fire brigade at the scene. Hopefully she is ok, she was sitting up when I passed and being assisted by several people.

RobbieMD · 03-01-2020 2:18am

Steoller wrote: »

That is strange. My complaint from last February is (finally) going to court, and I have not been required to attend - they are proceeding off the back of the footage I submitted. And my complaint was an incident in Celbridge, which should be under the same Super as leixlip.

You’d be required to go to court if the defendant goes not guilty and takes a hearing. If they plead guilty then the facts are given by the Garda or court presenter.

The footage you submitted would be played in court for a hearing and you would be questioned by both the prosecution and defence on it. It may be a case that the defence are reviewing the evidence against their client and depending on the footage, they may or may not take a hearing.

RobbieMD · 03-01-2020 2:21am

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Dunno about that. I reported a crazy close pass in February 2019 - I was basically forced off the road by a white van man, who overtook me to get in behind a slow moving bus that I was cycling behind. Brought the video to the garda on duty at Pearse Street, who said he was a keen cyclist and agreed it was very dangerous. Have yet to hear anything.

You could possibly follow this up with the Garda you reported it to. Depending on the offence, you may be recorded on PULSE as being a witness or injured party. Witnesses generally are not informed of court outcomes/ FCPNs. Victims now have a right under the Victims Charter to be kept informed of their case by the Gardai.

Wishbone Ash · 03-01-2020 2:38pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

It possibly depends on the garda on the desk

Yes.

"You shouldn't be out cycling at night" was the response I got several years ago when reporting a driver who made physical contact with me while passing.

Kaisr Sose · 03-01-2020 8:46pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

According to the fella in Leixlip station, in the eyes of the law it's my word against hers and the video is only there to support me. The video on its own is not sufficient for anything

I think AGS have a lot to do with the current situation. They see their role as evidence gatherers. They frequently dismiss video evidence as being insufficient on its own with no reason given. Then when it suits them, they appeal to the public for dash cam footage to help them with an investigation or go on Crimecall with CCTV footave seeking information on the ID of somebody.

CCTV either is or is not evidence.

Oberkon · 03-01-2020 11:15pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Yes.

"You shouldn't be out cycling at night" was the response I got several years ago when reporting a driver who made physical contact with me while passing.

He probably regards bikes as a toy for kids to potter about in the estate during the day

I know people who think bikes are for kids only - at the age of 35 I was told by a woman my own age - are ya not a bit old for cycling !

work · 04-01-2020 12:33am

Oberkon wrote: »

...... - at the age of 35 I was told by a woman my own age - are ya not a bit old for cycling !

Love it, I think people have a strange mind-set as they get older. Why stop doing things you did as a kid. Rollerblade, ice-skate, surf, swim etc etc and cycle.
I have been told numerous times partaking in the above is irresponsible. The biggest motivation to keep enjoying life is to look at how boring most adult lives are especially the ones with that attitude, they seem to have given up on living, to me anyway!

AndrewJRenko · 04-01-2020 12:07pm

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

I think AGS have a lot to do with the current situation. They see their role as evidence gatherers. They frequently dismiss video evidence as being insufficient on its own with no reason given. Then when it suits them, they appeal to the public for dash cam footage to help them with an investigation or go on Crimecall with CCTV footave seeking information on the ID of somebody.

CCTV either is or is not evidence.

I think there is a cultural resistance to active citizenship withi AGS. They really don't like the idea that people (especially people on two wheels) are actually taking action to drive particular outcomes.

They tend to miss the key point that cyclists wouldn't bother their ass taking the time to navigate through the cumbersome procedure if there was any real level of enforcement of traffic laws.

Pinch Flat · 04-01-2020 2:44pm

Well, thats the closest I've come to been wiped out earlier. Happened here:

https://goo.gl/maps/YoAShjXgRVmxs5nT9

I was approaching from Dunboyne, indicating and turning right. Saw a SUV approaching from my left - she was going straight through and I had right of way. Saw at the last minute she was on a mobile phone and completely oblivious - those types that hold the mobile out from their mouth while she was talking and driving. I was in a day glow orange rain jacket, front strobe. I didn't even register with her and she didn't let off as she passed straight through the roundabout, right in front of me, i mean missing me by inches, as if it wasn't there. I was sure she was going to hit me - I let a guttural roar inches from the drivers window - fooooooooook - so hard, my throat still hurts. She didn't even flinch. Couldn't get her reg number, she was travelling too fast.

No one deserves this. Mobile phones are proven to be a huge distraction and danger on the roads and are contributing to hundreds of collisions, yet we still have complete tools driving around on them in their own little world, zero awareness and with total impunity.

04-01-2020 3:13pm

Knew before I clicked the link what kind of roundabout I was going to see. They're a pox.

Pinch Flat · 04-01-2020 3:17pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Knew before I clicked the link what kind of roundabout I was going to see. They're a pox.

They should have a massive ramp on approach to each. People treat them like they dont exist.

tnegun · 06-01-2020 7:24pm

Will check the camera later and see if there's anything worth posting, first two scrotes in training tried to block me on the canal I peddled as hard as I could and aimed for one and they jumped out of the way, they couldn't of been more than 10/11. Then a car overtakes me in the Adamstown road into on Artic, Attic flashes his lights and the car behind me decides it's my fault and beeps while driving up my arse so I took the middle of the.lane. I assuming he thought it was my fault as 100m of bike lane with 3 yields existed to my left. Just another day

Seth Brundle · 07-01-2020 10:07am

(This thankfully isn't my footage)
Dublin Bus #37 performs a number of dangerous driving manouvres...

https://twitter.com/Dublin_Suzy/status/1214293583550959617

Pinch Flat · 07-01-2020 10:26am

Looks like driving a 25 tonne vehicle responsibly is not for him / her.

Anywhere on my commute like that, I just take the lane, i''ll keep this up at least until drivers of huge vehicles learn to respect other vulnerable road users.

Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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