Census of Agriculture

JoeCasey · 15-09-2020 8:40pm #1

The census is due by Thursday. Anyone have any news about this?

alps · 15-09-2020 8:49pm

JoeCasey wrote: »

The census is due by Thursday. Anyone have any news about this?

It arrived in the post last week...filled it up and sent it back.

Its surely just a snapshot and not every farm will be surveyed.

Its badly put together, and impossible to answer questions accurately. Cant see the data being collected being of any credible use..

Siamsa Sessions · 15-09-2020 9:05pm

alps wrote: »

It arrived in the post last week...filled it up and sent it back.

Its surely just a snapshot and not every farm will be surveyed.

Its badly put together, and impossible to answer questions accurately. Cant see the data being collected being of any credible use..

I work in data analytics off-farm and I thought the same thing - poorly put together and hard to see how anything accurate could be gleaned from it.

As the saying goes, “Garbage in, garbage out”.

And since all BPS is done online now, surely there could be an option to complete the census online and make the data collection more efficient?

893bet · 15-09-2020 9:05pm

Is it manadory if you got it?

whelan2 · 15-09-2020 9:12pm

893bet wrote: »

Is it manadory if you got it?

If you dont fill it in they keep sending reminders. You can write a note on it that you dont want to do it anymore afaik

hopeso · 15-09-2020 9:22pm

whelan2 wrote: »

If you dont fill it in they keep sending reminders. You can write a note on it that you dont want to do it anymore afaik

I used to get them regularly years ago, and then they stopped. This current one was the first one I got for ages.... If they keep coming again, I think I'll try that note......

15-09-2020 9:26pm

hopeso wrote: »

I used to get them regularly years ago, and then they stopped. This current one was the first one I got for ages.... If they keep coming again, I think I'll try that note......

Me too.

whelan2 · 15-09-2020 9:27pm

A polite note

15-09-2020 9:29pm

whelan2 wrote: »

A polite note

I'll practice.

crossman47 · 15-09-2020 9:30pm

Maybe a small bit of civic responsibility and fill it out as best you can (i'm sure best estimates will do).

orm0nd · 15-09-2020 9:37pm

it's no big deal, only take a few minutes to fill

reading posts on facebook giving out about it , and the same individuals spend more time posting sh1te on social media that would fill out 10 forms

Donegalforever · 15-09-2020 9:51pm

893bet wrote: »

Is it manadory if you got it?

Yes.
If you get the form and do not return it filled in you will be breaking the law.

That said, it is a pain in the arse.

893bet · 15-09-2020 10:33pm

Will do it so. Tis easier.

I says · 15-09-2020 10:44pm

Filled it out, more paperwork so much for everything online.

curiousinvestor · 15-09-2020 11:03pm

Hi all.
I thought the form was total sh1te also.
Why d paper copy and post ?
I could have done faster on agfood or icbf.
Seems like another way to have some very important people employed in a handy job in cork

Dunedin · 15-09-2020 11:16pm

Donegalforever wrote: »

Yes.
If you get the form and do not return it filled in you will be breaking the law.

That said, it is a pain in the arse.

Took me 5 minutes to fill it in. Don’t really understand what the issue is with doing it.

grizzlyadams · 15-09-2020 11:17pm

Got it, put it some place saying ya I'll fill that when I've a bit of time, read this and realised I have no idea where I put it and for the life of me cannot find it....... ðŸ™„

alps · 15-09-2020 11:59pm

orm0nd wrote: »

it's no big deal, only take a few minutes to fill

reading posts on facebook giving out about it , and the same individuals spend more time posting sh1te on social media that would fill out 10 forms

I found the commentary on that site, nearly a bit upsetting..

Vile hatred and disdain towards people and ioften our ndustry is mind boggling..

You don't have like someone or agree on anything....but the hsit on it is deplorable..

whelan2 · 16-09-2020 5:57am

grizzlyadams wrote: »

Got it, put it some place saying ya I'll fill that when I've a bit of time, read this and realised I have no idea where I put it and for the life of me cannot find it....... ��

You'll probably get sent another one if you haven't returned it the lo call number on the form is 1890924990

whelan2 · 16-09-2020 6:19am

alps wrote: »

I found the commentary on that site, nearly a bit upsetting..

Vile hatred and disdain towards people and ioften our ndustry is mind boggling..

You don't have like someone or agree on anything....but the hsit on it is deplorable..

I filled it in there in about 3 minutes. I think it used to be about 8 or 12 pages long. So people probably dont realise it's shortened now.

Hard Knocks · 16-09-2020 10:09am

Is it a only land owner that get one?

endainoz · 16-09-2020 10:45am

alps wrote: »

I found the commentary on that site, nearly a bit upsetting..

Vile hatred and disdain towards people and ioften our ndustry is mind boggling..

You don't have like someone or agree on anything....but the hsit on it is deplorable..

I got out of all those facebook groups as the negative whinging would really bring a person down. Also best ignored is any mainstream news article about farming, it's always followed by vile comments. It's good for the health to steer clear of these!

Say my name · 16-09-2020 11:10am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is it a only land owner that get one?

No. Former land and farm owners from 10 years ago get them too.

16-09-2020 1:28pm

endainoz wrote: »

I got out of all those facebook groups as the negative whinging would really bring a person down. Also best ignored is any mainstream news article about farming, it's always followed by vile comments. It's good for the health to steer clear of these!

Surely a slash of burnt oil and a thump of a holly bush would cure it :cool:

Siamsa Sessions · 16-09-2020 1:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely a slash of burnt oil and a thump of a holly bush would cure it :cool:

It cures everything else according to that Facebook group

You'd feel sorry for anyone who asks a question in that group. They nearly always get grunts as replies: "don't do it", "no money in milk/beef/lamb", etc.

Some difference between that and the genuine replies you get on here

16-09-2020 2:13pm

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

It cures everything else according to that Facebook group

You'd feel sorry for anyone who asks a question in that group. They nearly always get grunts as replies: "don't do it", "no money in milk/beef/lamb", etc.

Some difference between that and the genuine replies you get on here

This is the bit that get's me, if you suggest any other way than the way it's ever been done you get hassle about that too. I've decided lads are lazy in thinking. They'll work themselves into hospital physically but they don't want to work the brain at all.

endainoz · 16-09-2020 3:25pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is the bit that get's me, if you suggest any other way than the way it's ever been done you get hassle about that too. I've decided lads are lazy in thinking. They'll work themselves into hospital physically but they don't want to work the brain at all.

Absolutely, these are the types of people that share articles in capital letters making some sensationalist statement.

It's a lot easier to ask questions here I find, granted you'd still have the few that are stuck in their ways and might certainly disagree with you, but it's mostly done in a civil manner.

Another thing that really gets to me from these groups is the terrible grammer and punctuation, hurts my eyes to look through some of it.

jntsnk · 16-09-2020 3:53pm

Donegalforever wrote: »

Yes.
If you get the form and do not return it filled in you will be breaking the law.

That said, it is a pain in the arse.

Always chucked them in the bin. Didn’t get arrested yet!

Dinzee Conlee · 16-09-2020 5:24pm

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

It cures everything else according to that Facebook group

You'd feel sorry for anyone who asks a question in that group. They nearly always get grunts as replies: "don't do it", "no money in milk/beef/lamb", etc.

Some difference between that and the genuine replies you get on here

Jaysus lads, what FB groups are ye in?

I must admit, I only recently joined one or two groups on FB - I never used it much before... I don’t see much controversial on the ones I’m on... I’m obviously on the wrong ones

whelan2 · 16-09-2020 7:23pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Jaysus lads, what FB groups are ye in?

I must admit, I only recently joined one or two groups on FB - I never used it much before... I don’t see much controversial on the ones I’m on... I’m obviously on the wrong ones

I posted something on one last week and it was deleted as it wasn't what they wanted to hear. :eek:

Say my name · 16-09-2020 7:36pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Jaysus lads, what FB groups are ye in?

I must admit, I only recently joined one or two groups on FB - I never used it much before... I don’t see much controversial on the ones I’m on... I’m obviously on the wrong ones

That's because you're in the Cork Mammy's buy and sell groups.:pac:

alps · 16-09-2020 8:05pm

And they seen to have medicine cabinets as well stocked as Pat Shortt's sweet shop.

Dinzee Conlee · 16-09-2020 8:09pm

Say my name wrote: »

That's because you're in the Cork Mammy's buy and sell groups.:pac:

Ha - they sound like super creepy groups to be in... you wouldn’t know what them mammies be selling...

I joined one or two on FB - I see yourself commenting in one all right Say...

Say my name · 16-09-2020 8:12pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Ha - they sound like super creepy groups to be in... you wouldn’t know what them mammies be selling...

I joined one or two on FB - I see yourself commenting in one all right Say...

I know nothing.. (in a Manuel voice).

Dinzee Conlee · 16-09-2020 8:13pm

Say my name wrote: »

I know nothing.. (in a Manuel voice).

As a lad I work with says - me no speak the good English

endainoz · 16-09-2020 8:23pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I posted something on one last week and it was deleted as it wasn't what they wanted to hear. :eek:

Ah go on, tell us what shocking idea you posted.

whelan2 · 16-09-2020 8:45pm

endainoz wrote: »

Ah go on, tell us what shocking idea you posted.

Some lad was trying to sell that he will reduce your electricity bill, I said just go on to bonkers.ie and anyone can do it themselves, no need to pay anyone for doing it for you....harmless

endainoz · 16-09-2020 9:36pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Some lad was trying to sell that he will reduce your electricity bill, I said just go on to bonkers.ie and anyone can do it themselves, no need to pay anyone for doing it for you....harmless

Well how dare you for coming out with a good idea, has no place on those groups.

Donegalforever · 17-09-2020 10:01pm

curiousinvestor wrote: »

Hi all.
I thought the form was total sh1te also.
Why d paper copy and post ?
I could have done faster on agfood or icbf.
Seems like another way to have some very important people employed in a handy job in cork

It could also be Big Brother gathering more information.

17-09-2020 10:06pm

Donegalforever wrote: »

It could also be Big Brother gathering more information.

IMO, all of these things inform someones policy or strategy somewhere. Be it this census or carbon navigators etc. Data is important, but I don't believe it's being used for my good, which is why I try to remove myself from these things as much as I can now. I didn't start into farming to farm paper and I certainly didn't start into farming so paper could farm me.

Injuryprone · 24-09-2020 12:45pm

Got the reminder letter from CSO this morning. Funnily enough, it gave the option to complete it online. Grand and handy, took all of 10 minutes to do. You'd have to wonder why they went paper option only first. Typical Irish public sector

Dinzee Conlee · 24-09-2020 2:34pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

Got the reminder letter from CSO this morning. Funnily enough, it gave the option to complete it online. Grand and handy, took all of 10 minutes to do. You'd have to wonder why they went paper option only first. Typical Irish public sector

Whats the link to complete online? I had a quick look there on mine, and I didnt see it anywhere...

Injuryprone · 24-09-2020 3:07pm

Launch.survey.cso.ie

The reminder letter gave me 2 numbers to log in with

The original letter had no mention of it

minerleague · 03-11-2020 5:23pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

Launch.survey.cso.ie

The reminder letter gave me 2 numbers to log in with

The original letter had no mention of it

Thanks for this , couldn't find how to do it online myself

Genghis Cant · 03-11-2020 6:48pm

There's a phone number on the form that I rang with an enquiry, sorta trying to wriggle my way out of doing it.
The long and the short of it was she took the survey over the phone , took around 5 mins.
I wasn't expecting it to happen like that but I completed it anyway.

01-12-2020 11:30pm

whelan2 wrote: »

If you dont fill it in they keep sending reminders. You can write a note on it that you dont want to do it anymore afaik

I wonder can you. 4th reminder today plastered in red ink quoting law, "direct"ing me to send it back, threatening prosecution of an offence with fines of €2,500 or €45,000 depending on the offense.

Filled it in online but I do object to doing so.

blue5000 · 02-12-2020 1:02am

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder can you. 4th reminder today plastered in red ink quoting law, "direct"ing me to send it back, threatening prosecution of an offence with fines of €2,500 or €45,000 depending on the offense.

Filled it in online but I do object to doing so.

I wonder how many of those were sent out? One here somewhere too:(

02-12-2020 1:03am

blue5000 wrote: »

I wonder how many of those were sent out? One here somewhere too:(

Quite a few if Facebook is any indicator.

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