PGA Tour Thread

SnowDrifts · 12-05-2013 11:43pm

copacetic wrote: »

He went for the win by taking a risk and going after the flag, nothing wrong with that, margin of error was a lot lower and he came up a couple of yards short.

In fairness, the 17th (with that pin location) is not the hole to go for the win. He knew he was level at the top. 18th is where he should have been looking for the win.

Rikand · 12-05-2013 11:43pm

Weetabix wrote: »

Why oh why do i always back garcia and westwood, it's always the same, get hopes up first 3 days only fir the to crush my dreams come sunday.

in fairness, sergio shipped it on day 2 of the Masters

Almaviva · 12-05-2013 11:44pm

realgolfgeek wrote: »

http://www.golfchannel.com/media/golf-central-live-from-saturday-feature-1/

Looks like Sergio had plenty of time to me (if not quite the Tiger skill of stiffling a shot mid swing). Often see players abort at that stage due to crowd rustling, applause from a neighbouring green etc. No doubt it put him off - but a better player would have backed away.

Rikand · 12-05-2013 11:44pm

copacetic wrote: »

He went for the win by taking a risk and going after the flag, nothing wrong with that, margin of error was a lot lower and he came up a couple of yards short.

people have been hitting the safe side of 18 all day and the ball kicking towards the hole....ALL DAY! that was the time to go for the win, not on 17

Almaviva · 12-05-2013 11:48pm

copacetic wrote: »

He went for the win by taking a risk and going after the flag, nothing wrong with that, margin of error was a lot lower and he came up a couple of yards short.

I admire the ambition, but do have to question the judgement. There is a time to attack and a time to play smart.

mag · 12-05-2013 11:49pm

****ing sergio...
c'mon lingmerth!

kmart6 · 12-05-2013 11:50pm

Jesus, a 3rd ball in the water! Tiger must be laughing on the inside at Garcia!

realgolfgeek · 12-05-2013 11:51pm

copacetic wrote: »

He went for the win by taking a risk and going after the flag, nothing wrong with that, margin of error was a lot lower and he came up a couple of yards short.

Everything was wrong with it.
Tied for the lead, pin location, and the huge bonus that woods was playing one hole ahead of him.
Deadful course management and you can be sure he knows it now as well.
Greedy and immature.

Nuri Sahin · 12-05-2013 11:52pm

As I said, writing was on the wall once I put money on him. Final rounds in particular have been a sickener.

Creasy_bear · 12-05-2013 11:55pm

Anyone know why Tiger wasn't in the final pairing, rather than Sergio?

copacetic · 12-05-2013 11:56pm

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

people have been hitting the safe side of 18 all day and the ball kicking towards the hole....ALL DAY! that was the time to go for the win, not on 17

5 birdies ... ALL DAY on 18. 11 I think on 17, it's clearly the hole to go for a birdie on, assuming you actually want one rather than to play safe.

fullstop · 12-05-2013 11:57pm

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Anyone know why Tiger wasn't in the final pairing, rather than Sergio?

He presumably finished after Sergio yesterday

Almaviva · 12-05-2013 11:57pm

Tweety Bird bludgeoned himself this time saving Tiger the trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR3410r2Bc

fullstop · 12-05-2013 11:58pm

copacetic wrote: »

5 birdies ... ALL DAY on 18. 11 I think on 17, it's clearly the hole to go for a birdie on, assuming you actually want one rather than to play safe.

It's clearly not. It's idiotic in the extreme.

copacetic · 12-05-2013 11:58pm

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Anyone know why Tiger wasn't in the final pairing, rather than Sergio?

They were level at end of 3rd round play and Sergio had started with honour.

Creasy_bear · 12-05-2013 11:59pm

copacetic wrote: »

He went for the win by taking a risk and going after the flag, nothing wrong with that, margin of error was a lot lower and he came up a couple of yards short.

He's an idiot. The one shot in world golf you don't go for the pin is there. Hit the green take two putts, move on.

Just before he hit the tee shot, I texted my mate and said he'd go right at it.

Creasy_bear · 13-05-2013 12:00am

fullstop wrote: »

He presumably finished after Sergio yesterday

Tiger shot a lower round?

AdpRo · 13-05-2013 12:00am

copacetic wrote: »

5 birdies ... ALL DAY on 18. 11 I think on 17, it's clearly the hole to go for a birdie on, assuming you actually want one rather than to play safe.

I would guess course management isn't the strong point of your game, absolutely idiotic shot for garcia to take on.

copacetic · 13-05-2013 12:01am

fullstop wrote: »

It's clearly not. It's idiotic in the extreme.

Ermm, the stats are very clear, its high risk but more likely to be close than in the water on 17 when going for it. Roughly 65/35.

See link for today's distance from pin, loads of people very close.
http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/the-players-championship/closest-to-the-pin-17.html

Assuming you care about nothing but the win and think the shot looks good to you it's perfectly valid to go for it. Same way it was for legworth. Hitting a bad shot doesn't mean it wasn't an ok decision.

copacetic · 13-05-2013 12:03am

fullstop wrote: »

He presumably finished after Sergio yesterday

No, he didn't.

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Tiger shot a lower round?

No, he didn't.

fullstop · 13-05-2013 12:04am

copacetic wrote: »

Ermm, the stats are very clear, its high risk but more likely to be close than in the water on 17 when going for it. Roughly 65/35.

See link for today's distance from pin, loads of people very close.
http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/the-players-championship/closest-to-the-pin-17.html

Assuming you care about nothing but the win and think the shot looks good to you it's perfectly valid to go for it. Same way it was for legworth. Hitting a bad shot doesn't mean it wasn't an ok decision.

You think he was trying to hit the ball there? Not a chance, he was leaning as soon as he hit it. Pushed the hell out of it.

Nuri Sahin · 13-05-2013 12:04am

My woes aside, happy for Tiger. Some week of golf as ever at the 5th Major.

kmart6 · 13-05-2013 12:06am

Happy for Tiger...clearly meant a lot to him!

Creasy_bear · 13-05-2013 12:07am

copacetic wrote: »

No, he didn't.

No, he didn't.

Interesting. Maybe you should check the 3rd round scores.

Keano · 13-05-2013 12:07am

Wish we'd see a bit more of the smiley Tiger on course that we saw there.

fullstop · 13-05-2013 12:08am

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Interesting. Maybe you should check the 3rd round scores.

3rd round scores don't matter. First in, last out if tied.

Nuri Sahin · 13-05-2013 12:08am

copacetic · 13-05-2013 12:11am

fullstop wrote: »

3rd round scores don't matter. First in, last out if tied.

Not at the players.

SnowDrifts · 13-05-2013 12:12am

McGinley described the 17th perfectly - "you don't normally win the comp there, but you can lose it". Like I said, 18th is where he should have been going for the birdie.

realgolfgeek · 13-05-2013 12:14am

When two players in the same pairing are tied after the round, the player who was first to hit when the full round began is listed first. That put Garcia, who had a one-shot lead going into the third round, in the final group

Creasy_bear · 13-05-2013 12:17am

realgolfgeek wrote: »

When two players in the same pairing are tied after the round, the player who was first to hit when the full round began is listed first. That put Garcia, who had a one-shot lead going into the third round, in the final group

Your username suits you. Just fcuking with you, thanks!!

realgolfgeek · 13-05-2013 12:17am

SnowDrifts wrote: »

McGinley described the 17th perfectly - "you don't normally win the comp there, but you can lose it". Like I said, 18th is where he should have been going for the birdie.

I couldn't praise McGinley enough for his commentary ...
he's a natural .. and explains everything so well, instead of talking about himself all the time !!!!
Loads of respect for him, was always my favourite Irish player even though he didn't have as much success as others.

WHIP IT! · 13-05-2013 12:19am

Just want to point out that this 'Epic' PGA Tour thread is the worse idea ever... Some tournaments you want to follow here, some you don't... Back to Individual tournament threads please... Thanks!

realgolfgeek · 13-05-2013 12:20am

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Just want to point out that this 'Epic' PGA Tour thread is the worse idea ever... Some tournaments you want to follow here, some you don't... Back to Individual tournament threads please... Thanks!

agree !

Nuri Sahin · 13-05-2013 12:27am

Sergio admits he was a bit too overconfident on his tee shot at 17.

Middle of the green or a bit right of center was the line.

sector · 13-05-2013 12:27am

"taking it on the chin", whats that tigers load lol of golf that is

GreeBo · 13-05-2013 12:56am

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Just want to point out that this 'Epic' PGA Tour thread is the worse idea ever... Some tournaments you want to follow here, some you don't... Back to Individual tournament threads please... Thanks!

So follow the thread when the tournament you want to watch is on and dont follow it when you are not interested in the current tournament?

You do know that you dont have to read a thread if you dont want to right?

lostatsea · 13-05-2013 1:02am

Unfortunately the game of golf has turned Sergio into a madman. I think he is a fantastic player who has shaken off his putting woes to become a top player again. But mentally he is carrying too much baggage from past disappointments and he will never have the mental strength to overcome these. I feel sorry for him. His decision making on 17 when he got right back into the tournament was pure car crash TV. His interview afterwards, while admirable, made you worry about his future in the game.

lostatsea · 13-05-2013 1:07am

realgolfgeek wrote: »

I couldn't praise McGinley enough for his commentary ...
he's a natural .. and explains everything so well, instead of talking about himself all the time !!!!
Loads of respect for him, was always my favourite Irish player even though he didn't have as much success as others.

I thought McGinley was excellent. My only problem with having the Ryder Cup captain commentate is that he is loathe to criticise European players when it is warranted (which of course is perfectly understandable). I felt he couldn't comment honestly on Garcia's atrocious decision on 17.

WHIP IT! · 13-05-2013 1:43am

GreeBo wrote: »

So follow the thread when the tournament you want to watch is on and dont follow it when you are not interested in the current tournament?

You do know that you dont have to read a thread if you dont want to right?

I haven't been interested enough in recent weeks to follow the tournaments. So when i click on the thread to follow the discussion on the Players I'm brought back to my 'last viewed' post. In this case it was over 3 weeks ago. I don't know where the Players discussion starts & I'm not going searching for it.

I find it astonishing that whoever started this thread didn't consider that & quite ridiculous that it needs to be explained.

But eccentric moderation is the name of the game in the Golf forum.

We've always had Individual threads for Golf tournaments, what's the big deal? Some have little interest & garner only a handful of posts. Some, like the Players, carry huge interest & attract many pages of posts... then they all slip down the queue in the manner of all threads on all discussion forums... why we're trying to fix what isn't broke is beyond me but hey, I don't have my Mod's licence...

sydneybound · 13-05-2013 6:32am

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Just want to point out that this 'Epic' PGA Tour thread is the worse idea ever... Some tournaments you want to follow here, some you don't... Back to Individual tournament threads please... Thanks!

Much agreed.

Ilik Urgee · 13-05-2013 8:26am

Would love to see the soccer guys take a leaf from this forum's book. All PL soccer matches in a not so Epic thread.
Never gonna get that "footfall" in this forum with this flawed MO.

Russman · 13-05-2013 9:30am

Interesting.......
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/story/Tiger-wins-Players-after-another-controv?blockID=901709&feedID=3796

slave1 · 13-05-2013 9:34am

Wow, exciting finish with the visits to the water waking me up as I nodded off last night via the ipad, I thought Tiger going for the green on 14 was mad but what do I know, drama on 17 too, very unpredictable finish to that tournament with 16,17,18.
Couldn't be bothered to go back in the thread to where we started talking about this tournament though...

GreeBo · 13-05-2013 10:03am

WHIP IT! wrote: »

I haven't been interested enough in recent weeks to follow the tournaments. So when i click on the thread to follow the discussion on the Players I'm brought back to my 'last viewed' post. In this case it was over 3 weeks ago. I don't know where the Players discussion starts & I'm not going searching for it.

I find it astonishing that whoever started this thread didn't consider that & quite ridiculous that it needs to be explained.

But eccentric moderation is the name of the game in the Golf forum.

We've always had Individual threads for Golf tournaments, what's the big deal? Some have little interest & garner only a handful of posts. Some, like the Players, carry huge interest & attract many pages of posts... then they all slip down the queue in the manner of all threads on all discussion forums... why we're trying to fix what isn't broke is beyond me but hey, I don't have my Mod's licence...

So you think that the forum should be run to suit you, a member who only has a passing interest in reading/commenting on golf tournaments?

Funnily enough I think it should cater more for the members who read/post regularly, but hey, what do I know, I'm eccentric. :rolleyes:

/edit
Also, when your interest kicks in, why not just click on the last page...?

Brain Stroking · 13-05-2013 10:46am

Russman wrote: »

Interesting.......
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/story/Tiger-wins-Players-after-another-controv?blockID=901709&feedID=3796

That is interesting. I never spotted that. My knowledge of the minutia of the rules isnt the best (like most golfers). However, did Sky mention it? Was it explained at all?

SnowDrifts · 13-05-2013 11:28am

Russman wrote: »

Interesting.......
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/story/Tiger-wins-Players-after-another-controv?blockID=901709&feedID=3796

As much as I hate the idea of armchair referees, looking at the following clip, its fairly obvious Tiger dropped from the wrong position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SL57mef4E

Dolph Starbeam · 13-05-2013 12:18pm

I absolutely hate armchair referees. The video above is clearly a man that has something against Tiger. Not one piece of the coverage that I seen clearly shows where the ball crosses the hazard. Tiger obviously had a reference point himself, asked his partner, who agreed on the point and thats it. I think 2 men standing on the tee box have a better view of it that anyone looking on tv has.

fullstop · 13-05-2013 1:46pm

YayaBanana wrote: »

I absolutely hate armchair referees. The video above is clearly a man that has something against Tiger. Not one piece of the coverage that I seen clearly shows where the ball crosses the hazard. Tiger obviously had a reference point himself, asked his partner, who agreed on the point and thats it. I think 2 men standing on the tee box have a better view of it that anyone looking on tv has.

He's right though, his feelings for/against Tiger don't matter. Look at the overhead shot, there's no way the ball crossed at that point. Do you think Wittenberg would have the balls to tell Tiger to drop it back at the tee?

Topper Harley · 13-05-2013 2:59pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

As much as I hate the idea of armchair referees, looking at the following clip, its fairly obvious Tiger dropped from the wrong position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B5SL57mef4E

Does that guy wear his golf gear to watch the golf on TV? That's a bit sad.

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