TAMS 2 grand for slurry equipment

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 4:16pm #1

Think of getting a slurry tanker next year and wondering if I would qualify for the TAMS 2 40% grant.

Been looking online and can't figure out what the requirements are.

Anyone shed any light on it? Anyone got slurry equipment through the grant?

Injuryprone · 16-12-2018 6:59pm

Why wouldn't you?
I'm thinking that maybe you've no tank of your own that you can claim you're buying it to empty. I think it's not open to contractors alright

I've applied, approved no problem, about to put in the claim next week

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 7:01pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

Why wouldn't you?

I've applied, approved no problem, about to put in the claim next week��

See I've no green cert or anything. Is that a requirement?

Do you have to purchase the machine first or get clearance for the grant before ya buy?

Injuryprone · 16-12-2018 7:06pm

Reggie. wrote: »

See I've no green cert or anything. Is that a requirement?

I'm not sure about that one but I'd guess it wouldn't be a problem. Sure wouldn't there be thousands of older farmers that predate the green cert

Injuryprone · 16-12-2018 7:07pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Do you have to purchase the machine first or get clearance for the grant before ya buy?

Clearance first

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 7:07pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

I'm not sure about that one but I'd guess it wouldn't be a problem. Sure wouldn't there be thousands of older farmers that predate the green cert

This is true. That's why I was wondering. No clear list of requirements online. Could be that once your on agfood and have a herdnumber your covered

Donald Trump · 16-12-2018 7:08pm

Reggie. wrote: »

See I've no green cert or anything. Is that a requirement?

Do you have to purchase the machine first or get clearance for the grant before ya buy?

General rule for anything like that is it's safer to have everything approved before you buy. I'd imagine you won't have any joy if you wait until after buying it

Injuryprone · 16-12-2018 7:17pm

Just looked up the t&C's

3. Eligibility

3.1 General requirements

The Scheme is open to farmers who:

(i) hold a Department identifier
(ii) prior to submitting the online TAMS II application have a minimum of 5 hectares owned and/or leased or rented which have been declared under the Basic Payment Scheme or equivalent in the year of application or preceding year, or
(iii) are engaged in the breeding, rearing or fattening of pigs and have a minimum of 60 production units at the time of application in accordance with Annex B of the Scheme;
Or
(iv) in the case of a co-operative, all the members of the co-operative have to each independently meet the eligibility criteria laid down in (i), (ii) or (iii) above.

4.2 Farming Activity

Investments shall relate only to the farming activities carried out or which, in the opinion of the Department, are reasonably likely to be carried out on the holding in question. For this purpose, the slaughter of animals, the collection or disposal of fallen animals, the sale or offering for sale of meat or the holding of animals for sale or for offer for sale shall not constitute farming. Investments pertaining to premises used for the slaughter of animals, the collection or disposal of fallen animals, the sale or offering for sale of meat or the holding of animals for sale or for offer for sale shall therefore be ineligible for grant-aid.

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 7:27pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

Just looked up the t&C's

3. Eligibility

3.1 General requirements

The Scheme is open to farmers who:

(i) hold a Department identifier
(ii) prior to submitting the online TAMS II application have a minimum of 5 hectares owned and/or leased or rented which have been declared under the Basic Payment Scheme or equivalent in the year of application or preceding year, or
(iii) are engaged in the breeding, rearing or fattening of pigs and have a minimum of 60 production units at the time of application in accordance with Annex B of the Scheme;
Or
(iv) in the case of a co-operative, all the members of the co-operative have to each independently meet the eligibility criteria laid down in (i), (ii) or (iii) above.

4.2 Farming Activity

Investments shall relate only to the farming activities carried out or which, in the opinion of the Department, are reasonably likely to be carried out on the holding in question. For this purpose, the slaughter of animals, the collection or disposal of fallen animals, the sale or offering for sale of meat or the holding of animals for sale or for offer for sale shall not constitute farming. Investments pertaining to premises used for the slaughter of animals, the collection or disposal of fallen animals, the sale or offering for sale of meat or the holding of animals for sale or for offer for sale shall therefore be ineligible for grant-aid.

I'll take it that the dept identifier is a herdnumber. Sorted on that regard so.

Dunedin · 16-12-2018 7:46pm

What % is grants? Is it the normal 40 & 60% for the over and under 40’s?

duffysfarm · 16-12-2018 8:13pm

from what i understand you dont get the grant for a straight forward tanker. does it not have to have a trailing show or something like that and that means a lot more money to be spent on the tanker?

Limestone Cowboy · 16-12-2018 8:18pm

duffysfarm wrote: »

from what i understand you dont get the grant for a straight forward tanker. does it not have to have a trailing show or something like that and that means a lot more money to be spent on the tanker?

Ya needs a trailing shoe or dribble bar.

Donald Trump · 16-12-2018 8:21pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Ya needs a trailing shoe or dribble bar.

Has to be low emission, but don't be surprised if the splash plate is banned outright anyway in the near enough future. So I wouldn't be too put out about getting it covered under grant a bit early

Limestone Cowboy · 16-12-2018 8:22pm

Reggie. wrote: »

See I've no green cert or anything. Is that a requirement?

Do you have to purchase the machine first or get clearance for the grant before ya buy?

Have to get grant approved and you can't finance the tank either or they won't pay the grant on it. Green cert isint a requirement.

Donald Trump · 16-12-2018 8:34pm

Anyone have any idea what an umbilical system would cost?

Or are they really only for contractor and very large scale?

visatorro · 16-12-2018 8:38pm

Remember years ago the size of the farm related to the size of the tank. Say you had twenty cows you only qualifed for a 1300 gallon tank, or something along those lines. Maybe it's changed now.

kevthegaff · 16-12-2018 9:59pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

Anyone have any idea what an umbilical system would cost?

Or are they really only for contractor and very large scale?

Basic 1000 metre dribble bar 45k excellent vat

Bullocks · 16-12-2018 10:00pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Have to get grant approved and you can't finance the tank either or they won't pay the grant on it. Green cert isint a requirement.

Why are you not allowed finance I wonder ?

Injuryprone · 16-12-2018 10:02pm

Bullocks wrote: »

Why are you not allowed finance I wonder ?

I'm guessing a fella might stop making payments

Donald Trump · 16-12-2018 10:14pm

If you finance it, you don't own it until the last payment.

You could get the grant and it could be repossessed. From the departments point of view, the money would be wasted and gone.

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 10:22pm

kevthegaff wrote: »

Basic 1000 metre dribble bar 45k excellent vat

On the tankers they are about 15k ish

Donald Trump · 16-12-2018 10:34pm

kevthegaff wrote: »

Basic 1000 metre dribble bar 45k excellent vat

Does that include the pump and the piping? Would that be for decent enough quality stuff?

That might be feasible. Would get it out earlier and quicker. Less damage to the ground too. I'd imagine you'd be emptying a large overground tank in a matter or a day or two rather than a few weeks!

wrangler · 16-12-2018 10:56pm

Donald Trump wrote: »

If you finance it, you don't own it until the last payment.

You could get the grant and it could be repossessed. From the departments point of view, the money would be wasted and gone.

just get an ordinary loan then, no hold on the machine then

charolais0153 · 16-12-2018 11:09pm

Not allowed for contractors

Reggie. · 16-12-2018 11:15pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Not allowed for contractors

Not at the minute but would be for the home farm anyways

GrasstoMilk · 17-12-2018 12:45am

Bullocks wrote: »

Why are you not allowed finance I wonder ?

You can finance it but the machine has to be paid from your farm acc.
Few people have been caught out in that the finance company paid for the machine (as is standard) and dept wouldn't scantion the grant.
Happened a friend who retrofitted a dribble bar onto a tank we

TAMS 2 grand for slurry equipment

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