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Proposed Bass ban for 2018

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    #2
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    OwlEye wrote: »
    http://www.anglingtrust.net/news.asp?itemid=4239&itemTitle=Bass+ban+sparks+fury+amongst+sea+anglers&section=29&sectionTitle=Angling+Trust+News

    Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #3
    Inchilad
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Inchilad


    Cant read the link.ban on bass fishing ?surely not a nationwide ban in ireland?


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    #4
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    EU has proposed no recreational fishing for the first 6 months of the year, and C&R only for the second half. This will probably be watered down to C&R for the year, given the high commitment to C&R among anglers, the dependence of the bass tagging and other studies on angler participation, and the deterrent value of having anglers present on poaching and illegal fishing.


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    ardinn
    Registered Users Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Zzippy wrote: »
    EU has proposed no recreational fishing for the first 6 months of the year, and C&R only for the second half. This will probably be watered down to C&R for the year, given the high commitment to C&R among anglers, the dependence of the bass tagging and other studies on angler participation, and the deterrent value of having anglers present on poaching and illegal fishing.

    The ifi stopped salmon fishing on the slaney last year - there was never as many salmon taken out of it due to poaching! it is frightening how stupid the people are that govern these things - 150 anglers who would mind and patrol that river were effectively removed.

    It is beyond comprehension!
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    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    ardinn wrote: »
    The ifi stopped salmon fishing on the slaney last year - there was never as many salmon taken out of it due to poaching! it is frightening how stupid the people are that govern these things - 150 anglers who would mind and patrol that river were effectively removed.

    It is beyond comprehension!

    Just to be clear on the bass, this is a proposal from the EU, not the IFI, and I know IFI are advising the government on how to respond and pretty sure the strong recommendation will be that angling should not be banned.

    As for the salmon fishing, no one in IFI wants to see rivers closed. There is a national salmon group, advised by the Marine Institute and IFI, that advises the Minister on current stock levels and recommends management options for each river. Opening or closing a river is decided at department level. There is currently a public consultation open for next year's recommendations - if you want to influence policy now is your chance. (Current recommendation for 2018 on the Slaney is closed to 11th May and open C&R from 12th May)


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    ardinn
    Registered Users Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Oh im well aware its the EU and not the IFI - I was simply pointing out the effect banning and removing decent recreational anglers from water has on said water regardless of who implements the ban.

    With regards the slaney, there is so much wrong concerning clohamon and the turbines there is very little of our club left to save now above bunclody. Half the anglers who gave up their membership probably wont come back! A different issue but another nail in the coffin of a good/great river because of desperate management by the powers that be, whether or not it was an advisory board within the departmentor not is irrelevant as they made the decision.

    I had a very long rant written there but this is the bass thread and to be honest it's hard to care anymore so i'll leave it be!
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    OwlEye
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭OwlEye


    C&R for 2018


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    #9
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Is this the same EU that gives out huge quotas to foreign trawlers, that are up and down the west coast raping our seas. The mind boggles at the idiots in power. Our seas will be empty of fish in a few decades time and all the EU are worried about is banning anglers for 6 months of the year. Sure how can they police it, all you have to say is your spinning for pollack or mackeral...


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    #10
    Snowc
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Snowc


    What a joke:mad:there is an area off the south coast where a large volume of bass congregate at a certain time of the year and the local fishing fleet avoid(except a few) trawling this area at this time of the year, but there is always French and Spanish trawlers who move to this area and then land their catch in Spain and France without any inspection of their catch and its the recreational anglers who are blamed for the collapse of the bass stock .....


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    #11
    delboythedub
    Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭delboythedub


    ardinn wrote:
    The ifi stopped salmon fishing on the slaney last year - there was never as many salmon taken out of it due to poaching! it is frightening how stupid the people are that govern these things - 150 anglers who would mind and patrol that river were effectively removed.


    It was bound to happen , nobody around to keep an eye on the river for poachers etc. Took long enough to get the Nets off it and now being poached to sh##. Really Sad.


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    #12
    silien2007
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭silien2007


    Just to let you know, the European Anglers Alliance have a petition up calling on the EU to alter the latest bass fishing regulations for anglers.

    Search change.org for 'bass fishing' - i can't post links here.

    Please sign and share, thanks.


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    OwlEye
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭OwlEye


    Taken from the IFI website;

    Following revised advice from the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea (ICES) from 1 October to 31 December 2018 anglers fishing in Ireland will be allowed to keep one bass a day.

    ICES submitted revised advice for bass in the ICES divisions covering the central and southern North Sea, Irish Sea, English Channel, Bristol Channel, and Celtic Sea for 2018.

    According to that advice recreational angling does not impact on bass stocks to the degree previously assumed. In addition, ICES estimated a higher survival rate from the catch-and-release practice (a 95 % survival rate compared to the previously estimated 85 %). Therefore, it is appropriate that one fish per fisherman per day may be retained in recreational fisheries that take place in October – December 2018. A minimum size limit of 42cm applies.


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