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How long should repairs take?

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  • 12-05-2019 2:58pm
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    Liberal_irony
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭


    Our washing machine broke 2 weeks ago and we've been trying to get it either repaired or replaced by the landlady. The letting agency doesn't reply to emails and phone calls aren't much better.
    I'm just wondering what if anything we can do?


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    Evd-Burner
    Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    People will say otherwise but I have always just withheld rent and it gets the attention fairly quickly.


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    Browney7
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    Liberal_irony wrote: »
    Our washing machine broke 2 weeks ago and we've been trying to get it either repaired or replaced by the landlady. The letting agency doesn't reply to emails and phone calls aren't much better.
    I'm just wondering what if anything we can do?

    Two weeks is taking the p1ss but make sure you're on solid ground tenancy wise before going in heavy. Keep a written record of all interaction but I'd ring the agent multiple times a day and just be a pain in the hole from know on. My last LL replaced a washing machine within 3 days of it failing and I'd consider him a very good LL


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    Charles Ingles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    It's should be fixed by rent day, otherwise don't pay rent until it's fixed


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    AnRothar
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    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    It's should be fixed by rent day, otherwise don't pay rent until it's fixed


    And 14 days later what happens?


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    Charles Ingles
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    AnRothar wrote: »
    And 14 days later what happens?

    You will have a new washing machine


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    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Evd-Burner wrote: »
    People will say otherwise but I have always just withheld rent and it gets the attention fairly quickly.
    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    It's should be fixed by rent day, otherwise don't pay rent until it's fixed

    Two stupid ideas right there.

    In the interim I'd be using one of those washing machines you see at the garages and keeping the receipts for the landlord to reimburse me. Two weeks is unacceptable though to be without a washing machine. Have you tried calling into the letting agents office? Have you got an number for the landlady


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    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    You will have a new washing machine

    The house might have a new washing machine you might find yourself with notice.


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    Charles Ingles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    The house might have a new washing machine you might find yourself with notice.

    Have you ever heard of the prtb not a chance landlord could get you out over his negligence


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    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    Have you ever heard of the prtb not a chance landlord could get you out over his negligence

    Negligence?


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    Charles Ingles
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    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Two stupid ideas right there.

    In the interim I'd be using one of those washing machines you see at the garages and keeping the receipts for the landlord to reimburse me. Two weeks is unacceptable though to be without a washing machine. Have you tried calling into the letting agents office? Have you got an number for the landlady
    °^^ spoken like a true landlord


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,915 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    Have you ever heard of the prtb not a chance landlord could get you out over his negligence

    Not paying rent is the reason for getting you out and there is no option to withhold in the RTB. If you are in conflict with your landlord you have to keep paying rent till its resolved.


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    4ensic15
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    All complaints should be in writing and sent by recorded post. If no adequate response threaten the RTB. Check if the tenancy is registered.


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    Charles Ingles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Not paying rent is the reason for getting you out and there is no option to withhold in the RTB. If you are in conflict with your landlord you have to keep paying rent till its resolved.

    To the prtb who hold in escrow account until the matter is resolved


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    shane b
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭shane b


    Is the landlady contactable? Could you propose to her that you would contact someone to fix it and take the cost out of the rent. Maybe that might speed things up.
    If the machine is reasonably new there maybe even a parts warranty on it.


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    10pennymixup
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭10pennymixup


    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    It's should be fixed by rent day, otherwise don't pay rent until it's fixed

    Worst advice ever!!!


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    10pennymixup
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭10pennymixup


    OP, there is a prescribed way in which to deal with this, starting with putting it formally in writing (not email etc), giving a reasonable time frame. Not sure of the follow through, it's been a while/

    But this will take even more time and you're two weeks in already. Perhaps ring threshold asking would they talk to LL.


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    The_Conductor
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    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    To the prtb who hold in escrow account until the matter is resolved

    First off- its called the RTB- it changed its name nearly 4 years ago.

    Secondly- they don't operate an escrow account for landlords and tenants- however it has been mooted they hold deposits on behalf of landlords (its also been suggested that this function should be operated by a wholly separate entity- given the manner in which the RTB are viewed).

    Thirdly- you are immediately in breach of your obligations under the Residential Tenancies Act if you withhold rent. Regardless of the dispute you have with your landlord- you do not withhold rent, period.

    Fourthly- offering antagonistic and illegal advice- is against the forum's charter- as is trolling other posters and suggesting they're landlords etc- just because they offered advice which you dispute or disagree with.


    If you disagree with another poster- refute their post factually- without resorting to personalising your posts or insulting they or other posters.

    Nameslinging and/or trolling are not acceptable behaviour and will not be tolerated.

    I hope I've made myself clear. You're not going to get another warning.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
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    Letter to the LL giving them 14 days to fix it. If no joy, fix it yourself and open a case with the RTB for reimbursement.


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    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    To the prtb who hold in escrow account until the matter is resolved


    The RTB do not hold money is escrow.


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    Gumbo
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    Evd-Burner wrote: »
    People will say otherwise but I have always just withheld rent and it gets the attention fairly quickly.
    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    It's should be fixed by rent day, otherwise don't pay rent until it's fixed
    Charles Ingles wrote: »
    °^^ spoken like a true landlord

    Mod Note

    Do not post illegal instructions again or a ban will be issued.


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    #22
    Graces7
    Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I once waited 3 months. when later the freezer died I sourced a second hand one locally and sent the landlord there.


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    #23
    eoing90
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭eoing90


    if after 21 days the landlord hasn’t fixed the washing machine you are legally allowed to deduct it from the rent.


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    AnRothar
    Registered Users Posts: 542 ✭✭✭AnRothar


    eoing90 wrote: »
    if after 21 days the landlord hasn’t fixed the washing machine you are legally allowed to deduct it from the rent.
    Do you have a link?


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    Liberal_irony
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Liberal_irony


    eoing90 wrote: »
    if after 21 days the landlord hasn’t fixed the washing machine you are legally allowed to deduct it from the rent.

    Seriously, haven't found anything like that. Just a "recommended" 3 to 5 days off the Threshold website


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    iwillhtfu
    Registered Users Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Liberal_irony wrote: »
    Seriously, haven't found anything like that. Just a "recommended" 3 to 5 days off the Threshold website

    He's serious but he couldn't be more wrong.


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    #27
    overkill602
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    If a LL has no maintenance response they are leaving or left the business imo so its may be a sign of worst to come go on J D, media or scream from the highest building.
    as a LL 24 hour response is the only way as some problems left can sometimes do more damage my approach would be the norm.
    Sometimes a tenant might be slow to report or may have a sublet or something they don't want LL to see.


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    #28
    Liberal_irony
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Liberal_irony


    Eventually landlady came out today with a repairman to confirm the machine was indeed fecked. So I can now organise a replacement and subtract the cost from next month's rent.
    3 weeks to get to the solution I suggested on day 1.....


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