Ireland's Jewish community

Wibbs wrote: »

For someone who claims to be a buff of the period your take is decidedly partisan and more Hollywood than fact and painting an entire nation under a totalitarian dictatorship in such terms is shabby indeed. The German people did not at any stage "vote" for the Final Solution. Even those of lower position who served within the inner circle of the orchestrators of this mass murder of all those they considered subhumans, Jews, gypsies, gays, Soviets, even "Arian" Germans who stood in their way, vanishingly few were privy to the realities. Why do you suppose the death camps were situated outside Germany? There was a reason for that.

While he was the very definition of a hero, Witold Pilecki was not Jewish, he was a devout Catholic from a Polish aristocratic family. And "everyone" didn't know what was going on. Why do you think he volunteered for such a deathly dangerous task to pass as a Jew to see for himself and then tell the world what was going on?

So yeah, maybe hone your facts first?

Its like an excuse some 11 year old comes up for not doing their homework.

I didn’t know that the Wermacht Stormtroopers who had rolled Panzers through the low countries, murdering thousands, had launched a Blitzkreig air warfare on the one remaining country standing up to them , whos freely elected Government had rallied against the Jew since 1928 was going to do something bad to my neighbor of 20 years who I shopped to them and they shipped them , their grandparents and under 10s off with one suitcase in their possession.
Your honor I didn’t know what these German vermin were going to do to them, I was too busy finding out who got their house and business premises.


Ive read all the books, I know of all the incidents of German treatment of any resistance, more importantly I also know about the logistics involved in major military manouveres.

Its laughable to consider that few knew about what was going on .
Its laughable to consider that the Nurenberg trials and the noble efforts of Simon Wisenthal to round up Germans involved , touched any more than the tip of the iceberg.


When you had among other things the national railways of Holland, Belgium and France (NS, SNCF still paying fines for their involvment) and an estimated 2000 companies in Germany benefiting from slave labour, and everywhere from Guernsey to Dansk was under the German whip.
But yeah nobody knew ...


I was just re-reading a pamphlet I have that was airdropped by the Luftwaffe over Britain in Aug 1940 , it was an English translation of some speeches Hitler gave at the Reichstag and Berlin Opera House July 1940. Gemans widely and wildly celebrated the early success of the War , were confident of total success and bought into it, and it was clearly outlined that Judaism was one of the main targets.

Yeah the extermination of 6 million people, and coincidentally by the end of the war there were 6 million members of the Nazi party and you want me to believe nobody knew.


Plenty academics have grasped the thorny issue and rasied the spectre that most Nazis were ordinary Germans who freely aided ‘The Final Solution’ and post war hung up the uniform and slipped back and reintegrated into Adenaurs Germany , going on to live long and prosperous lives, including stealing the best deck chairs by the pool in Marbella.

This reintegration of Germans guilty of heinous crimes was only made possible because so many were involved that it was on an institutional level post war, EVERYONE (not literally but you know what I mean) was involved during the war, and EVERYONE was scrambling to disown it and slink back into society post-war.

Back to OP .
Interesting topic thanks for raising it.
Judging by the fact the Jewish community has a prescence here and every poster has experience of interaction , but based on the response or lack of response from Jewish people living in Ireland theres a number of conclusions to be reached.

The Jewish Community in Ireland keep a low profile, they don’t draw attention to themselves unnecessarily and most of them seem too busy with getting on with their lives, working and looking after important things like their family to waste grey matter on a inconsequential forum debating with random strangers about who they are.. Maybe the Rabbis teachings are hitting home …