Unpopular Opinions - OP Updated with Threadban List 4/5/21

uncommon_name · 20-08-2019 4:21pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Everyone, no matter what age should have to resit the driving test every 5 years.

Well, it looks like you have an even more unpopular opinion that I do.

Maybe 10 years up to the age of 50 and every 5 years after that.
I also think if you have issues with your eyes you should have to resit it every 5 years no matter what age you are.

Also insurance for elderly people should be bumped up in order to force them to use public transport they get for free.

Gregor Samsa · 20-08-2019 4:25pm

uncommon_name wrote: »

Also insurance for elderly people should be bumped up in order to force them to use public transport they get for free.

The words "free public transport" should be outlawed in discourse and debate where it's referred to as a universal benefit, until it's available to the whole country, and not just Dublin and certain limited sections of the other cities and major towns. None of the elderly people I know in my locality have ever even applied for a bus pass, because there's literally no opportunity for them to use it.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 20-08-2019 4:26pm

My unpopular opinion, at least amongst y’all hipsters, is that drugs shouldn’t be legalised and only partly decriminalised.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 20-08-2019 4:27pm

phutyle wrote: »

The words "free public transport" should be outlawed in discourse and debate until they're available to the whole country, and not just Dublin and certain limited sections of the other cities and major towns.

Isn’t bus eireann free for pensioners? And trains are also free.

Screw Attack · 20-08-2019 4:35pm

1. Superhero movies are childish and stupid.
2. MMA is a garbage sport, disgusting.
3. All mainstream pop music since 1970 is garbage.
4. Christopher Nolan makes empty popcorn movies.
5. Sports fanatics are sad.
6. Most Irish history is not something to be proud of. ie. Easter Rising
7. Irish music, arts and culture is overrated.
8. Hate those who promote drinking and drug culture to children.
9. If it is really true that 'people kill people, not guns', then there is no argument for asking N Korea or other rogue states not to acquire as many nukes as they want.
10. Heavens Gate is an excellent film.
11. Dances With Wolves OVER Goodfellas.
12 Punk music was a good movement, but like No Wave, it's mostly music with very little substance.
13. Rave was the worst music movement ever.
14. 2Pac couldn't hold a candle next to Kendrick Lamar, Tyler the Creator or even Kanye West.
15. ' Fly' remains Breaking Bad's greatest episode.
16. Dickheads who disrupt an argument by using the moronic cliche "Everyone has a right to an opinion". A semantic stop sign to stifle any further discussion on a topic.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 20-08-2019 4:37pm

Screw Attack wrote: »

1. Superhero movies are childish and stupid.
2. MMA is a garbage sport, disgusting.
3. All mainstream pop music since 1970 is garbage.
4. Christopher Nolan makes empty popcorn movies.
5. Sports fanatics are sad.
6. Most Irish history is not something to be proud of. ie. Easter Rising
7. Irish music, arts and culture is overrated.
8. Hate those who promote drinking and drug culture to children.
9. If it is really true that 'people kill people, not guns', then there is no argument for asking N Korea or other rogue states not to acquire as many nukes as they want.
10. Heavens Gate is an excellent film.
11. Dances With Wolves OVER Goodfellas.
12 Punk music was a good movement, but like No Wave, it's mostly music with very little substance.
13. Rave was the worst music movement ever.
14. 2Pac couldn't hold a candle next to Kendrick Lamar, Tyler the Creator or even Kanye West.
15. ' Fly' remains Breaking Bad's greatest episode.
16. Dickheads who disrupt an argument by using the moronic cliche "Everyone has a right to an opinion". A semantic stop sign to stifle any further discussion on a topic.

I supppose you have a right to your opinion.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 20-08-2019 4:39pm

Very difficult to find a bar that doesn't have live music in Dublin that plays any music from 90s+ onwards.

Not sure anyone even likes some guy playing acoustic guitar too loud.

Gregor Samsa · 20-08-2019 4:40pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Isn’t bus eireann free for pensioners? And trains?

Yep, it is.

Now think about how limited the coverage of both services are on a national basis, particularly outside of the main towns. Count the train lines in Donegal for a start.

Even taking people living out in the sticks out of the equation. Take something simple like an elderly person getting from Barefield in Clare to the Regional hospital in Limerick for an appointment by public transport. See if it can be done, just using public transport and no excessive walking (lets assume a moderately healthy elderly person, the kind that would be using public transport in Dublin, and put the limit at 2 km of walkig). Hell, lets make it even easier and say the hospital in Ennis (a 5km journey in total).

In fact, try to get an elderly person from any housing estate in Ennis to Ennis hospital, purely by public transport. Doesn't matter how may different routes they need to take, or how long it takes, just see if you can get them there.

Use the Transit option in Google maps for convenience.

Then multiply that by every town and village in the country.

Public transport in Dublin is top class. I was born there, grew up there and lived there for 30 years. Never once thought about owning a car.

Public transport outside Dublin is just about usable if you're commuting between main towns that happen to be in a route, and you have someone to drive you to or pick you up from the stop or station, or you happen to live close by. 2 weeks into moving to the west (15 years ago), I realised a car was a necessity, not a nice to have. I was applying for jobs. And began to realise that I couldn't get to any of them by 9am using public transport. it was physically impossible, no matter how early I got the bus in the general direction of the job (assuming there was a bus going in that general direction). Nothing has changed in that time.

Screw Attack · 20-08-2019 4:44pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I supppose you have a right to your opinion.

Yes, but you can criticise it. If you have the right and justification on your side you can tell me why I'm wrong.

Raconteuse · 20-08-2019 4:51pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

That 90% of our live is determined by where we are born (geography), what family we are born into, and or genetic makeup.

I don't think many criminals had much choice in their actions, but I'd still want them locked up.

What's unpopular about those?

Screw Attack wrote: »

1. Superhero movies are childish and stupid.
2. MMA is a garbage sport, disgusting.
3. All mainstream pop music since 1970 is garbage.
4. Christopher Nolan makes empty popcorn movies.
5. Sports fanatics are sad.
6. Most Irish history is not something to be proud of. ie. Easter Rising
7. Irish music, arts and culture is overrated.
8. Hate those who promote drinking and drug culture to children.
9. If it is really true that 'people kill people, not guns', then there is no argument for asking N Korea or other rogue states not to acquire as many nukes as they want.
10. Heavens Gate is an excellent film.
11. Dances With Wolves OVER Goodfellas.
12 Punk music was a good movement, but like No Wave, it's mostly music with very little substance.
13. Rave was the worst music movement ever.
14. 2Pac couldn't hold a candle next to Kendrick Lamar, Tyler the Creator or even Kanye West.
15. ' Fly' remains Breaking Bad's greatest episode.
16. Dickheads who disrupt an argument by using the moronic cliche "Everyone has a right to an opinion". A semantic stop sign to stifle any further discussion on a topic.

8 is definitely not unpopular! 10. Is it considered a terrible film?

uncommon_name · 20-08-2019 4:52pm

Temple bar should be closed down completely unless they reduce their idiotic prices for a bloody pint.

€8 for a pint of Guinness and €8.90 for a pint of Heineken. I would understand €6.50 maybe in the center of Dublin in a tourist area.
They do not advertise their prices anywhere view able and then when I refused to take the drinks and told them I would leave the bouncer was called in and wouldn't let me leave until I paid for the drinks, or else they were calling the Gardai.
Needless to say I told them to call the Gardai as they were trying to rob me, they let me go eventually.

Ended up in a much nicer pub, much quieter and feck all tourists and paid €5.80 for my Heineken and €5.40 for the Guinness.

mikemac2 · 20-08-2019 4:58pm

I thought pubs had to display prices inside the door ?

In fact when I was a student doing bar work i filled up that form and put it inside the front doors.

Bars got an easy to read template to complete and hang up

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-08-2019 4:59pm

GRACKEA wrote: »

I don't think there should be any obligation for signs and services to include the Irish language. I say that as a gaeilgeoir. Nobody needs it. Probably <5 people in the world are monoglot Irish speakers. (Monoglot = only speaks the one language)

French or Polish would be much more useful.

Edit to add: just googled it. There are actually 0 Irish monoglots in the world.

I know somebody who speaks both Irish and Welsh fluently. I think he is the only person in the world with that ability.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-08-2019 5:05pm

touts wrote: »

I believe full state benefits should only be paid to those who have worked a minimum of 5 years in the state.

Even with that all state benefits (unemployment, pension, child benefit) should be paid in vouchers that can only be redeemed against certain items (not bouncy castles, booze, fags, fake tan etc)

People in receipt of free housing should live where the state gives them the free house and not have a choice in that. Any damage they do to the house is taken from their welfare. Once they get a job they start to pay rent to the state at the average rent in the locality.

Voting should be limited to active citizens who have either paid tax or taken part in voluntary work for at least 5 years.

People should pay for water and sewage.

Property tax should be based on the services in your locality and not the value of your home.

There is nothing wrong with a two tier health service. Anyone who pays the tax that funds the health service should have priority access on waiting lists or for private rooms etc.

There should be a three strike and you are out rule in the criminal justice sector. On your third or subsequent conviction you lose all rights to bail, reduced sentences, early release etc. You serve the maximum sentence set down in law and not a day less.

Life means life.

Why should people be stigmatised like that? If you’re receiving benefits because you are seriously ill or of pension age, why add insult to injury? And would anyone begrudge somebody who is seriously ill or a pensioner treating themselves to something non-essential every once in a while?

20-08-2019 5:06pm

uncommon_name wrote: »

€8 for a pint of Guinness and €8.90 for a pint of Heineken. I would understand €6.50 maybe in the center of Dublin in a tourist area.

A fool and his money, I wouldn't abide having to fork out more than a fiver for Arthur. Let the gullible tourists empty their pockets. Surprised if many locals supped away in Temple Bar, a mugs paradise.

EmmetSpiceland · 20-08-2019 5:08pm

uncommon_name wrote: »

Ended up in a much nicer pub, much quieter and feck all tourists and paid €5.80 for my Heineken and €5.40 for the Guinness.

You’re still getting ripped off paying those prices.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-08-2019 5:10pm

Cyclepath wrote: »

A man should not be forced to take on financial or other responsibility for supporting a baby he doesn't want, for example an unplanned pregnancy, one night stand with no protection etc.

To clarify, I am pro-choice, but a prospective mother has the right to abort a foetus without recourse to the potential father, so I think it's only fair that the man should have a choice too.

Only within the window that allows a woman to abort if she’s not going to get support from the father. Much like abortion can’t happen in the latter stages of pregnancy, so too should a man not be allowed to absolve themselves of their responsibility at that stage either.

rgmmg · 20-08-2019 5:10pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I know somebody who speaks both Irish and Welsh fluently. I think he is the only person in the world with that ability.

Not quite - I know a guy who can speak Irish, Welsh and Spanish.

Goes by the name Ulick Carlos Alberto Jones - Or Ulick C.A. Jones for short

uncommon_name · 21-08-2019 10:57am

Deleted User wrote: »

A fool and his money, I wouldn't abide having to fork out more than a fiver for Arthur. Let the gullible tourists empty their pockets. Surprised if many locals supped away in Temple Bar, a mugs paradise.

Surprisingly there was a lot more Irish in there than I would have expected. Sitting there in the corner drinking and throwing their money away.

uncommon_name · 21-08-2019 10:58am

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You’re still getting ripped off paying those prices.

Yes I know, but you won't find many places less than that in Dublin City Center. Unfortunately I was there for a party so had no option but to stay in Dublin.

uncommon_name · 21-08-2019 10:59am

mikemac2 wrote: »

I thought pubs had to display prices inside the door ?

In fact when I was a student doing bar work i filled up that form and put it inside the front doors.

Bars got an easy to read template to complete and hang up

Maybe there was, I didn't look just inside the door. I was looking in the area the bar was.

the beer revolu · 21-08-2019 11:06am

Pringles are not crisps.
They are a reformed powdered potato snack.
And they're sh1te.
Pure sh1te

uncommon_name · 21-08-2019 11:09am

the beer revolu wrote: »

Pringles are not crisps.
They are a reformed powdered potato snack.
And they're sh1te.

I can't believe you just said that :eek:

the beer revolu · 21-08-2019 11:13am

uncommon_name wrote: »

I can't believe you just said that :eek:

I'm pretty edgy.
Most people can't handle that!

Paddy Cow · 21-08-2019 11:59am

uncommon_name wrote: »

Surprisingly there was a lot more Irish in there than I would have expected. Sitting there in the corner drinking and throwing their money away.

They're probably trying to chat up tourists.

SureYWouldntYa · 21-08-2019 12:00pm

I have no problem with ticket touting

I don't get why it's okay for other limited resources to be freely priced by the market but with tickets it's deemed unethical

If ticketmaster prices them at €80, they sell out and people are willing to then pay €100 then away with them

Same deal when it comes to touts buying in bulk as opposed to just 1 everyday guy trying to turn a quick buck, no different to a property developer buying all the houses, it's a risk to make a bigger profit

biko · 21-08-2019 12:06pm

My unpopular opinion - U2 is the best band in Irish history, present day included.

biko · 21-08-2019 12:08pm

My unpopular opinion 2 - it should be perfectly fine to point out spelling errors to people on internet forums.
If you don't tell people what is wrong, how do you suppose they learn?

the_pen_turner · 21-08-2019 12:13pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

I have no problem with ticket touting

I don't get why it's okay for other limited resources to be freely priced by the market but with tickets it's deemed unethical

If ticketmaster prices them at €80, they sell out and people are willing to then pay €100 then away with them

Same deal when it comes to touts buying in bulk as opposed to just 1 everyday guy trying to turn a quick buck, no different to a property developer buying all the houses, it's a risk to make a bigger profit

i dont see the problem with it either.
its business. you buy when they are cheap and sell for as high as the market will bear. that business 101. nothing wrong with that at all.
the price is set by what people will pay. if people paid less then the price would go down and it wouldnt be worth these people doing it.

Paddy Cow · 21-08-2019 12:47pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i dont see the problem with it either.
its business. you buy when they are cheap and sell for as high as the market will bear. that business 101. nothing wrong with that at all.
the price is set by what people will pay. if people paid less then the price would go down and it wouldnt be worth these people doing it.

It's not business. Business is regulated and they pay tax. This is simply ripping people off. Plus people get ripped off twice if the concert is cancelled and the money is refunded to the person who initially bought the ticket.

LirW · 21-08-2019 12:49pm

Potatoes are overrated.

the beer revolu · 21-08-2019 12:52pm

LirW wrote: »

Potatoes are overrated.

Fcuking take that back.
Take it back now!

Graces7 · 21-08-2019 1:02pm

phutyle wrote: »

The words "free public transport" should be outlawed in discourse and debate where it's referred to as a universal benefit, until it's available to the whole country, and not just Dublin and certain limited sectionfprs of the other cities and major towns. None of the elderly people I know in my locality have ever even applied for a bus pass, because there's literally no opportunity for them to use it.[/QUOTE

for this reality, thank you. I had mine but mislaid it and will never get to use it so no need to replace.

whisky_galore · 21-08-2019 1:03pm

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It's not business. Business is regulated and they pay tax. This is simply ripping people off. Plus people get ripped off twice if the concert is cancelled and the money is refunded to the person who initially bought the ticket.

It would end tomorrow if people sucked it in and had the restraint not to buy from touts. You can continue living without going to a concert.

Graces7 · 21-08-2019 1:07pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Why should people be stigmatised like that? If you’re receiving benefits because you are seriously ill or of pension age, why add insult to injury? And would anyone begrudge somebody who is seriously ill or a pensioner treating themselves to something non-essential every once in a while?

Thank you, It would simply dehumanise and desocialise. and ensure a greater dependency on welfare by removing social skills. Another form of institutionalisation.

In the US it does not work as folk sell their food stamps anyways :rolleyes:

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2019 1:09pm

Travellers are spoiled rotten by the state.

There are a disproportionate number of disabled parking spots everywhere, most are empty all of the time

the beer revolu · 21-08-2019 1:11pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Travellers are spoiled rotten by the state.

That's an extremely popular opinion.

21-08-2019 1:12pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Travellers are completely neglected by the state.

FYP.

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2019 1:15pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

FYP.

Horsesh1t

Gregor Samsa · 21-08-2019 1:16pm

We should dispose of the moronic fiction that we're a neutral country and recognise that our "neutrality" was merely a childish expression of anti-British petulance at the beginning of our independence.

21-08-2019 1:17pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Horsesh1t

*Inspects thread title again*

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2019 1:19pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

*Inspects thread title again*

Doesn't explain you're horsesh1t post

21-08-2019 1:26pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Doesn't explain you're horsesh1t post

No medal for you.

whisky_galore · 21-08-2019 1:36pm

phutyle wrote: »

We should dispose of the moronic fiction that we're a neutral country and recognise that our "neutrality" was merely a childish expression of anti-British petulance at the beginning of our independence.

Anyone who is anyway informed knows it's a sham.
Useful way to stay out of foreign wars on one hand but still keep "special relationships".

the beer revolu · 21-08-2019 1:41pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Doesn't explain you're horsesh1t post

I explained it a few posts back, in simple terms.

keano_afc · 21-08-2019 1:44pm

I see sheep wrote: »

I think most travellers are grand

It's the 99% that give the 1% a bad name.

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2019 2:25pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No medal for you.

I don't accept medals from deluded liberals

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2019 2:28pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

I explained it a few posts back, in simple terms.

No you parroted the aprooved PC line of official Ireland which has no basis in reality but which is essential to progress in politics or media

Omackeral · 21-08-2019 2:35pm

Oreos are sh*t

Nando's is just ok.

Cats are better than dogs.

quokula · 21-08-2019 2:40pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Cats are better than dogs.

That's a fact not an opinion.

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