Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

nix · 19-04-2019 5:17pm

Vicxas wrote: »

So.....
Still on Ishinn, but i'm comfortably getting him to his third phase now. Its just working out the timings on his spear sweeps.

Have him in the 4th phase a good bit now but cant seem to get Lighting return to work.

I didnt bother with his lightning return, anytime he done it i just dodged in behind him then hit him with a smack or two, its a lot safer and consistent i found. I kept fecking myself over trying to deflect that lighning, always left me in a state of panic..

:pac:

daheadonu · 19-04-2019 5:49pm

Vicxas wrote:

So.....

I had the exact same problem as you,found running away when he did that the best solution or running under him when he did it.

19-04-2019 10:48pm

Divine Dragon

down, was wondering if there would be a gimmick fight in this game. Easiest fight in the game but also pretty cool.

Now I'm back to get upgrade and prepare what I expect will be the push to the end and I notice the

Sculptor is missing and I'm now mysteriously able to do my own upgrades with one hand I note yet I still have to pay Sen

Speculation hat on

The sculptor is Sekiro????? Awfully convenient he just happened to have a spare left hand at the start of the game now I think of it, and we have had examples of time travel in the game

Vicxas · 20-04-2019 12:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Divine Dragon
down, was wondering if there would be a gimmick fight in this game. Easiest fight in the game but also pretty cool.

Now I'm back to get upgrade and prepare what I expect will be the push to the end and I notice the
Sculptor is missing and I'm now mysteriously able to do my own upgrades with one hand I note yet I still have to pay Sen

Speculation hat on
The sculptor is Sekiro????? Awfully convenient he just happened to have a spare left hand at the start of the game now I think of it, and we have had examples of time travel in the game

Oh my word, i cant wait for you to find out what happened him

20-04-2019 6:41pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Oh my word, i cant wait for you to find out what happened him

Just did wow, so thats what

I was being told during the eavesdrop with himself and Emma, I think they said something like one of us had to die

Asus X540L · 20-04-2019 9:13pm

Finally beat Corrupted Monk.
Was bricking it he'd have another phase like Lady Butterfly.

Now that i can swim underwater there's a whole new world!

(I finally killed a Headless too the underwater one)

It's getting very Zelda alike now - The Grappling hook, 4 things to level up, New powers opening up new areas, the general feel, the weird vendors.
I always held that The Souls games are really dark, difficult Zelda games but I think Sekiro is even closer to the Zelda philosophy.

Zelda BOTW was probably the most "Japanese" Zelda to date.

21-04-2019 10:09pm

Anyone got any advice for the second

Owl

fight? Just can't get any kind of rhythm going with it. Location and taking him to corners it's hell with the camera. So far from what I can see staying at range is not the way to go here I need to be in his face but suffering there.

sticker · 22-04-2019 9:30am

Any recommendations for final tool? I've only 2 lapis lazuli and I'm not sure between lazulite shuriken or lazulite Sabimaru. Any suggestions from use?

Best final tool? Im still to face final boss...

Vicxas · 22-04-2019 10:30am

sticker wrote: »

Any recommendations for final tool? I've only 2 lapis lazuli and I'm not sure between lazulite shuriken or lazulite Sabimaru. Any suggestions from use?

Best final tool? Im still to face final boss...

Sabimaru is very situational, i would go for the Shuriken personally.

Asus X540L · 22-04-2019 3:49pm

I'd like to say I prefer the new level up system.

It's a real sense of elation when you find a prayer bead (for example I went diving in the Temple area and found my 4th bead) which you didn't get from killing random monsters in the Soulsborne games.

Also, when you defeat a boss you really feel you've earned it.
I remember grinding 3 or 4 levels to kill bosses rather than actually learning his attack patterns.

Vicxas · 23-04-2019 6:25pm

Finally!

Beat Ishinn with a sliver of health left and a heart rate of about 2 million,

Then went down and got the Demon of hatred within 10 tries, we was definitely an old school souls boss

Started NG+ as i missed a lot of the possible endings.

SomeSayKos · 24-04-2019 12:26am

Vicxas wrote: »

So.....
Still on Ishinn, but i'm comfortably getting him to his third phase now. Its just working out the timings on his spear sweeps.

Have him in the 4th phase a good bit now but cant seem to get Lighting return to work.

Jump as soon as the danger symbols fades away and spam r1. It's worth getting right as you get some good hits on him

24-04-2019 12:58am

Quite annoyed I sided with the owl now as I'm still reading this thread and missed a good bit of the game including the toughest boss. I don't have the time at the moment to commit to a ng+ run.

Still a great game.

Doctor Nick · 24-04-2019 7:19am

I rage quit a few weeks back. Spent two weeks brooding over it so went back and started NG+ now. It was just

Shura - fire isshin

that drove me crazy. Must have spent 13 hours before finally beating him. Probably mad doing NG+ for

Sword saint

.

sweetie · 24-04-2019 10:44am

So I beat

the Ape and Owl handy enough after learning their patterns and off I go to Fountainhead palace to be confronted by another feckin boss, jesus! Had a good few tries at the monk and got her very near to third phase once and after reading online for advice found I could deathblow the first bar if I was quick enough, no such luck, then I find out it was patched out of the game yesterday! Aah, looks like I'll have to mortal blade my way out of this one! Also went back and tried the ape due and was going fine until junior turned up.

petes · 24-04-2019 11:03am

sweetie wrote: »

So I beat
the Ape and Owl handy enough after learning their patterns and off I go to Fountainhead palace to be confronted by another feckin boss, jesus! Had a good few tries at the monk and got her very near to third phase once and after reading online for advice found I could deathblow the first bar if I was quick enough, no such luck, then I find out it was patched out of the game yesterday! Aah, looks like I'll have to mortal blade my way out of this one! Also went back and tried the ape due and was going fine until junior turned up.

I managed to deathblow the monk twice :eek:

nix · 24-04-2019 11:05am

sweetie wrote: »

So I beat
the Ape and Owl handy enough after learning their patterns and off I go to Fountainhead palace to be confronted by another feckin boss, jesus! Had a good few tries at the monk and got her very near to third phase once and after reading online for advice found I could deathblow the first bar if I was quick enough, no such luck, then I find out it was patched out of the game yesterday! Aah, looks like I'll have to mortal blade my way out of this one! Also went back and tried the ape due and was going fine until junior turned up.

Really? they patched out the early before fight begins if yer quick death blow? Thats odd, did they patch out the death blow you can do when he first starts up the smoke phase also? I never actually done it myself, but i seen a speed runner doing it after finishing the game, guy rinsed that boss in like a minute :eek:

sweetie · 24-04-2019 12:02pm

nix wrote: »

Really? they patched out the early before fight begins if yer quick death blow? Thats odd, did they patch out the death blow you can do when he first starts up the smoke phase also? I never actually done it myself, but i seen a speed runner doing it after finishing the game, guy rinsed that boss in like a minute :eek:

Think the second one might still be available according to youtube comments. Should be doable eventually as I'm consistently getting through the first phase now. This game is relentless!

sticker · 24-04-2019 12:17pm

I just got

Owl 2, Demon and Spirit Saint

to go - But I'm weary of it now to be honest. Fatigued at this point...

I would definately rate Bloodbourne the far better game... I got my as handed to me relentlessly there but still had such passion to continue.

Not so much here. Think I'll drop it now. I've RE2 and Divison 2 ready to go - Will go there instead.

beans · 24-04-2019 12:49pm

I got caught-up in the notion of progressing the story, and sent our

large childish friend to the dungeon

... and then immediately regretted it but alas, what's done is done.

24-04-2019 1:07pm

sticker wrote: »

I just got
Owl 2, Demon and Spirit Saint
to go - But I'm weary of it now to be honest. Fatigued at this point...

I would definately rate Bloodbourne the far better game... I got my as handed to me relentlessly there but still had such passion to continue.

Not so much here. Think I'll drop it now. I've RE2 and Divison 2 ready to go - Will go there instead.

I'm at pretty much the same point and feel the same. I've

Demon

done but haven't been back to it in a few nights now.

The Owl father

fight was wearing me down just couldn't make consistent progress against him and poked my nose in to see what the other fight was like. I did go through a stage were I was really enjoying it after initially having issues with but now at the end I'm fatigued by it also.

SomeSayKos · 24-04-2019 1:57pm

sticker wrote: »

I just got
Owl 2, Demon and Spirit Saint
to go - But I'm weary of it now to be honest. Fatigued at this point...

I would definately rate Bloodbourne the far better game... I got my as handed to me relentlessly there but still had such passion to continue.

I love bloodborne in terms of its story and world, but I think the gameplay in Sekiro is far superior. Differen't strokes for different folks i guess!

I finished it for the 6th time yesterday. Managed to do it in just 5 hours which is 43 hours quicker than my first playthrough. I think I need help

derfderf · 24-04-2019 2:09pm

sticker wrote: »

I just got
Owl 2, Demon and Spirit Saint
to go - But I'm weary of it now to be honest. Fatigued at this point...

I would definately rate Bloodbourne the far better game... I got my as handed to me relentlessly there but still had such passion to continue.

Not so much here. Think I'll drop it now. I've RE2 and Divison 2 ready to go - Will go there instead.

I gave up at the dragon. In bloodbourne/DS you can always try a different weapon, or different character build if stuck. You can level up too if you don't mind fighting twinks.
The options in Sekiro are switch to a different underwhelming prosthetic.
I did enjoy parts of of it, but it's definitely my least favorite FS game (which still makes it better than most).

24-04-2019 6:09pm

Came back to this after a Genichiro inspired break, and finally killed the bastard! Tore through senpou temple and now at the gun fort. Feels like a lot of progress but I'm just waiting to get hammered by whatever boss comes next.
Edit: just got killed by the gaurdian ape!

Asus X540L · 24-04-2019 9:01pm

Man, the second phase of guardian ape is brutal. Absolutely brutal cause in the first phase you got a Shinobi deathblow and you think it's all over.

24-04-2019 9:20pm

Asus X540L wrote: »

Man, the second phase of guardian ape is brutal. Absolutely brutal cause in the first phase you got a Shinobi deathblow and you think it's all over.

I can get him down to about two thirds of that phase. He's tough, but I just need to learn his attacks a bit better. I feel invincible after beating Genichiro!

24-04-2019 11:42pm

Second phase is actually easier than the first one, wait for him to do that attack where he raises the sword over his head and use

easy to time a parry on it then thrusting lance on him to pull out the worm

massive posture damage.

You just need to parry / deflect a few attacks to get him to do it and you can usually get it even spamming the deflect button.

sweetie · 25-04-2019 12:20am

Or evade him (and the terror scream) by circling the arena until he does the dive and time your jump toward him over the sword for a few easy hits. Takes longer but dead easy.

Anyone know if mortal blade stacks with divine confetti or negates it? Just finalising my strategy so that True Monk goes down tonight.

sweetie · 26-04-2019 1:02am

Just copped I've been fighting the true monk for two days with the bell demon bell rung. Think I'm ready now!

Edit: done it next try!

petes · 26-04-2019 8:05am

sweetie wrote: »

Just copped I've been fighting the true monk for two days with the bell demon bell rung. Think I'm ready now!

Edit: done it next try!

Ha

K.O.Kiki · 26-04-2019 10:38am

Beat Guardian Ape!!

Pity the internet spoiled me on his 2nd stage but I actually had less problems once I learned that the slow overhead causes him to stumble.

Also interesting thing, I went back to the area where you find the Mist Raven prosthetic, and the purple ninja was alive!
...and he nearly killed me!

YouSavedMyLife · 26-04-2019 6:30pm

Going through the game for the second time now. It is no doubt the easiest FromSoft game.

I wish I instead started on NG+ with the demon bell rang and no Kuros charm

27-04-2019 12:56am

Had the ape on the ropes, one or two more attacks would have done it but I got greedy and kept hitting him instead of jumping back and running. Got caught in his terror scream and game over. Absolutely kicking myself!

Asus X540L · 27-04-2019 7:48pm

Think I'm done with this game. Finally killed the Ape, went back through the castle. Met Owl, and decided to join him as I usually pick the first option on my first playthrough. Realized I just ruined the game for myself (cut is seriously short) and really have no urge to fight Emma now

nix · 27-04-2019 8:09pm

Asus X540L wrote: »

Think I'm done with this game. Finally killed the Ape, went back through the castle. Met Owl, and decided to join him as I usually pick the first option on my first playthrough. Realized I just ruined the game for myself (cut is seriously short) and really have no urge to fight Emma now

Hardly call it ruined, you're just going a shorter path to the finish and fighting different bosses. Just do another play through or go through NG+ for the other endings/bosses.

28-04-2019 11:57am

Asus X540L wrote: »

Think I'm done with this game. Finally killed the Ape, went back through the castle. Met Owl, and decided to join him as I usually pick the first option on my first playthrough. Realized I just ruined the game for myself (cut is seriously short) and really have no urge to fight Emma now

I did the same. Felt terrible having that fight immediately afterwards. I've yet to stick to ng+

nix · 28-04-2019 1:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I did the same. Felt terrible having that fight immediately afterwards. I've yet to stick to ng+

GIT GUD!

Doctor Nick · 28-04-2019 2:21pm

I chose

Shura

ending as well. Didn't mind cutting it short a bit, in fact, the reason I chose it was I was getting a bit jaded with it despite loving it.

I kept thinking about the game after I'd finished and the fights I missed so am currently doing NG+ and it's been a breeze so far. This morning killed

Jozou, Butterfly, Gyoubu the Demon, Blazing Bull , General outside castle and Ashina elite

so already up to Genichiro. If you're tiring of the game give it a break for a few days and come back to it. Worked for me.

28-04-2019 3:22pm

Asus X540L wrote: »

Man, the second phase of guardian ape is brutal. Absolutely brutal cause in the first phase you got a Shinobi deathblow and you think it's all over.

Beat the ape yesterday, and now I think the second phase is easier. His attacks are not as varied and are a lot more predictable. Once you dodge out of the scream, everything else can be deflected.

Doctor Nick · 28-04-2019 4:40pm

Everything hits like a truck in NG+ but I suppose that's the point. Anyway Genichiro down now. First play through he took two days so it's great to see your skills as a player improve. Suppose the Ape is my next big boss.

I have to start using prosthetics more. All I really use is firecrackers and umbrella. Don't understand the anti air deathblow skill at all. I jump when they in the air but never get a deathblow marker.

28-04-2019 5:10pm

I've found the perfect motivation to give ng+ another shot

https://youtu.be/knXvbg49FuM

Asus X540L · 28-04-2019 6:14pm

Think I'm done with this

Man, **** this. The mutiple phases/resurrections etc are just plain not fun. These were never a thing in Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 1. It seemed to have started in the DLC of Dark Souls 3 with Sister Freya (spl) and her three resurrections. Then the twin demon princes were just brutal. Now half(if not more) of the bosses in Sekiro come back after you kill them once. It's cheap and brutal and it's not fun. So I kill Emma and Ishiin attacks me without so much as a checkpoint. I'm done with this game, **** this. At least in the souls game if you made bad choice you could pay some NPC to rectify it (eg attacking the ancient dragon in DS2 instead of talking to him) This is just stupid. I never once had to youtube bosses in FROM software games until DS3. They're just going for cheap now I'm afraid.

nix · 28-04-2019 6:32pm

Asus X540L wrote: »

Think I'm done with this
Man, **** this. The mutiple phases/resurrections etc are just plain not fun. These were never a thing in Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 1. It seemed to have started in the DLC of Dark Souls 3 with Sister Freya (spl) and her three resurrections. Then the twin demon princes were just brutal. Now half(if not more) of the bosses in Sekiro come back after you kill them once. It's cheap and brutal and it's not fun. So I kill Emma and Ishiin attacks me without so much as a checkpoint. I'm done with this game, **** this. At least in the souls game if you made bad choice you could pay some NPC to rectify it (eg attacking the ancient dragon in DS2 instead of talking to him) This is just stupid. I never once had to youtube bosses in FROM software games until DS3. They're just going for cheap now I'm afraid.

YouSavedMyLife · 28-04-2019 7:25pm

Instead of 3 health bars, imagine its one huge health bar and the fight changes at different points in the health bar :rolleyes:

sweetie · 28-04-2019 9:07pm

Finally at the last boss(es) and went back to clean up a few things. Absolutely wrecked the guardian ape duo with mortal blade, they never got away from the wall even. Don't know if I've the patience for the last boss though and I've seen all of what the game has to offer. I'd rank it midway in the From ouevre and feel it could have done with an extra area or two and wasn't mad about the split choice storyline.

Asus X540L · 28-04-2019 10:23pm

**** this.
Went exploring again. Killed the ogre in the castle, two mini boss ninjas, and O'Reilly of the lake to get four prayer beads.
Also killed the warrior in the dungeon and a couple of headless. How useful are those drops from headless?
Also finished the surgeon side quest.
**** loot.
In fact most the world loot in this game is rubbish besides the odd prayer bead
Those Buddhist candies and the balloons are ****e

28-04-2019 10:28pm

The stuff from the headless is needed to upgrade some of the prosthetics

sweetie · 29-04-2019 12:00pm

I got through Genichiro first phase easy enough and then Isshin climbs out of his body, I think i'm done now, I havent the will now to fixate on this battle for hours.

If I replay and make a different choice is there any new areas or is it just different boss fights?

29-04-2019 12:27pm

Just got back to ashina castle and got to the top. Got killed by the boss after siding with Kuro. Is there much more to go after this fight? I'm enjoying it but want to just get it over with now. Backlog is building up.

Mr.Fantastic · 29-04-2019 12:33pm

Just beat

Genchiro, felt he was very tough, that posture bar tho

and ploughed through most of senpekou temple.

Just near the

Gun fort

the latent abilities are really powerful I found.

Have to say am really enjoying it love the style of it , say its up there with bloodbourne for me, never really gelled with dark souls 3.

Does anybody else feel guilty looking up tips when you are stuck on a boss? haha

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

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