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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Baby75 wrote: »
    The irish 5 mile is another one I really enjoyed in the lead up to DCM it might be a bit of a spin for you but the waterford viking run is also another one I enjoyed, it has a 1/4, HM and full but I am sure you find somthing closer to home

    As far as I am aware, the RnR route has changed this year so back to its old one I think. I believe it was changed last year due to the Popes visit. I could be wrong though.

    wont be long before the new DCM thread starts up again! I say the new mentor is being picked or contacted around now! should be a great thread looking forward to it again this year myself :)


    R&R is indeed back to its original route but with a new start, same start as DCM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Any tips for a blister on the sole of your foot?


    Walked about 10km in a pair of shoes that probably weren't best suited for that distance - it was a brisk enough walk at that and wasn't wearing socks. Sunshine went to my head!!


    Was planning to register to a local race on this Fri evening.... but I'm currently hobbling around the office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Any tips for a blister on the sole of your foot?


    Walked about 10km in a pair of shoes that probably weren't best suited for that distance - it was a brisk enough walk at that and wasn't wearing socks. Sunshine went to my head!!


    Was planning to register to a local race on this Fri evening.... but I'm currently hobbling around the office.

    Is the blister full of fluid? If so sterlise a needle, dip in boiling water. Thread it but don't knot it. Feed it in and out of the blister and the thread with drain it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    aquinn wrote: »
    Is the blister full of fluid? If so sterlise a needle, dip in boiling water. Thread it but don't knot it. Feed it in and out of the blister and the thread with drain it.
    Thanks, do I dip the thread in boiling water also?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Thanks, do I dip the thread in boiling water also?

    You can if you want but needle really only required.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    aquinn wrote: »
    Is the blister full of fluid? If so sterlise a needle, dip in boiling water. Thread it but don't knot it. Feed it in and out of the blister and the thread with drain it.

    I have just had it confirmed that I'm a total wuss!!! Haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    You’re better off leaving blisters alone.

    They’ll disappear themselves over time.

    Popping them can make things worse with infections etc.

    Should only pop them if you have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Djoucer wrote: »
    You’re better off leaving blisters alone.

    They’ll disappear themselves over time.

    Popping them can make things worse with infections etc.

    Should only pop them if you have to.

    If a blister was getting worse or causing problems with walking/running, I'd pop it. A sterile blister plaster can help once it's lanced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Folks, a question for the community and Mods I guess; Why is Boards so manic about doping speculation?

    The reason I ask this right now is that I was looking at LetsRun earlier and well, it's the absolute opposite there. People come out with all sorts of completely unsubstantiated and wild claims on that subject. Some of them are silly, some are nonsensical but some are interesting. The only other message board I visit is also free and easy, irreverent let's say.

    Why is Boards so strict and serious?

    Genuine question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Itziger wrote: »
    Folks, a question for the community and Mods I guess; Why is Boards so manic about doping speculation?

    The reason I ask this right now is that I was looking at LetsRun earlier and well, it's the absolute opposite there. People come out with all sorts of completely unsubstantiated and wild claims on that subject. Some of them are silly, some are nonsensical but some are interesting. The only other message board I visit is also free and easy, irreverent let's say.

    Why is Boards so strict and serious?

    Genuine question.

    Repercussions I think Itzi, if the claims prove to be false and said athlete decides to sue Boards there up $hit creek without a paddle i’d say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭Itziger


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Repercussions I think Itzi, if the claims prove to be false and said athlete decides to sue Boards there up $hit creek without a paddle i’d say.

    Yeah, I'm guessing that's why but how are Letsrun different or the Peoples Republic of C??

    There must be a reason. Can someone explain it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,490 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Itziger wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm guessing that's why but how are Letsrun different or the Peoples Republic of C??

    There must be a reason. Can someone explain it?

    Different libel/defamation laws in different countries, I’d imagine. But I’m only speculating! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Fusitive


    Itziger wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm guessing that's why but how are Letsrun different or the Peoples Republic of C??

    There must be a reason. Can someone explain it?

    Letsrun has had cases taken against them many times in the past. It just ignores the consequences of not having restrictions and operates an semi-anonymous board in the "name of free speech And clean sport". The idea was that inside whistleblowers would have a place to speak out and there has been occasions where actual whistleblowers have posted(Magness and Goucher posted "anonymously" about NOP long before pro-rebulica came out with the report for instance.) But the flipside of it is that 99.9% of doping speculation is just noise, most of it inchorrent conspiracy type stuff throwing darts blindly at a board.

    They also aren't very impartial, one of the Letsrun mods was protected and all posts deleted when real evidence of him and Athletics West doping came out and his use of Winstrol. He has since admitted using it but any mention of his doping is deleted to this day.

    You end up in a clusterfućk of a mess when you leave unsubstantiated doping claims open and you end up with a site that has a very low signal to noise ratio letsrun and actual evidence and whistleblowers get buried in the mess. Letsrun has a motto of "if an athlete can't prove the accusation to be false, they will not remove it" and proving innocence is almost to impossible to do.

    The huge amount of unsubstantiated doping claims and trolling has destroyed that board. You used to have genuine World class coaches and athletes posting on there about training regularly but not anymore because they were reguraly attacked by the mob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Itziger wrote: »
    Folks, a question for the community and Mods I guess; Why is Boards so manic about doping speculation?

    Just as a short note, this has nothing to do with mods, it's a policy from the very top and non-negotiable. It's the same with the no-medical-advice thing.

    Boards have been sued in the past, and the decision was made to strictly ban those kind of posts.

    Anyone wishing to discuss this more freely is welcome to head to letsrun. Personally I have long given up on that board because the signal-to-noise ratio is close to 0. I know moderation can be annoying at times, but looking at the other side I find that non-moderation is worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Noticing a slight discomfort in my knees after a long run, wouldnt say its painful as such but dont want to ignore warning signs and get injured in future. It might just be the runners so I've ordered a new pair. Anything else i can do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    deisedude wrote: »
    Noticing a slight discomfort in my knees after a long run, wouldnt say its painful as such but dont want to ignore warning signs and get injured in future. It might just be the runners so I've ordered a new pair. Anything else i can do?
    MRI both


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,490 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    For now I’d just wait and see if the new shoes make a difference. Slightly sore knees after a long run doesn’t sound too unusual to me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    Murph_D wrote: »
    For now I’d just wait and see if the new shoes make a difference. Slightly sore knees after a long run doesn’t sound too unusual to me!

    You'll miss them when they're gone - Baz Luhrmann


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭cullenswood


    Do many in here use Rowing as a cross training exercise?

    I'm out injured for a while and am waiting for my appointment with a specialist in relation to knee cartilage damage. I don't really have handy access to a pool (can swim but have never done more than a length anyway!), and find the bike pretty dull.

    Have started using the rowing machine in the gym to try and get a bit of cardio in but am not really sure what I am doing on it to be honest.

    For people that use it, how long would you row for, what pace / stroke rate etc should I be doing / aiming for. I know this is all relative, but was hoping to get a ball park idea from other people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    Same sessions as running, speed, tempos, longer slow rows. There are many free plans online if you plan on using it 3-5 times a week. You would do a test, something like 3-5k hard and that calculates paces for all your sessions


    edit:

    https://www.fitness.marines.mil/Portals/211/Docs/PFT_CFT/PFT_CFT%20Standards/Training%20for%205K%20Rowing%20Ergometer%20Test.pdf?ver=2016-12-15-105509-990


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Do many in here use Rowing as a cross training exercise?

    I used to, many years ago. It's a great cardiac workout, really strengthens your core and if you want to learn how to suffer there are few places that can teach you that equally as well.

    However, one day I really hurt my lower back on the rowing machine. It was all down to improper technique, no doubt at all, but looking at all the non-rowers using a rowing machine, improper technique is very, very common.

    I still got the occasional back pain 5 or more year after the incident, and I have not been back on the rower since. It was just not worth the injury risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Yes I do. I have a concept 2 rower at home and I used to row competitively in Uni.

    I've always used it as cross training as I understand the value of it and have decent technique. Bias aside it's hands down one of the best strength endurance related cardiovascular activities you can do. If you learn the technique you will find it really works your legs. Quads, calves, glutes, hamstrings and hip flexors. Everything you use running including your core but no impact.

    I didn't use it the last few months as I was building run mileage. But I'll incorporate it again this summer. I take it out into my garden on sunny days.

    Trust me, learn the technique properly and it's bang for buck!

    Edit: sorry missed the last question. Tip: go on to the Concept 2 website and sign up (free) for daily sessions to be sent to you. You get a short, medium and long option every day with time, intervals, stroke rate and rest.

    The workout you get from it is as relative as it us to running. Long low rate easy (30 min rate 20spm) hard short intervals (10x500m), threshold (3x 2,000m or 2x 5,000m at various rates).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Does anyone know what the spat between Dublin Mountain Marathon and Popupraces/ Anto is all about? DMM Facebook page is apparently blowing a big fish out of a small pond!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    Does anyone know what the spat between Dublin Mountain Marathon and Popupraces/ Anto is all about? DMM Facebook page is apparently blowing a big fish out of a small pond!

    Didn't know anything about it until your post. Strange one. So, did people sign up to this race and have subsequently lost their money? I wonder how many people we are talking


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Didn't know anything about it until your post. Strange one. So, did people sign up to this race and have subsequently lost their money? I wonder how many people we are talking

    It sounds more like the original organisers wanted all proceeds to go to charity but the race managers took over running of the event as a for profit event. I'm sure there are two sides to the story. I can't understand how a hired event management company could just take over an event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Didn't know anything about it until your post. Strange one. So, did people sign up to this race and have subsequently lost their money? I wonder how many people we are talking

    Not knowing anything about what is going on but knowing both Don and Anto very well, I cannot possibly imagine that being the case.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    skyblue46 wrote: »
    It sounds more like the original organisers wanted all proceeds to go to charity but the race managers took over running of the event as a for profit event. I'm sure there are two sides to the story. I can't understand how a hired event management company could just take over an event.


    There where two separate events as far as I understand. One person who makes money out of something called 'eco therapy' is calling out people who make money out of races. Go figure.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,518 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    13 million views in 2 days, and as for the actual finish...
    :confused:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭mutley18


    Why do I get an annoying pain on the sole of my right foot when I run long distance :( Always thr right and never the left


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    mutley18 wrote: »
    Why do I get an annoying pain on the sole of my right foot when I run long distance :( Always thr right and never the left

    This could be due to over-training, and/or maybe bad shoes. Try building up slower to longer distances, and maybe swapping out your current running shoes for some other ones. I used to get various injuries in my feet when I started out running, they went away over time. Apart from running volume, these days I try to avoid foot problems by running in a few pairs of different shoes over the course of a week, as they'll tend to stress different parts of your feet in different ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    I have something similar. I'm using the bike for my easy miles. The physio just said I had to manage the load until the tendon got used to it. Moving the long run to grass has helped a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    When road running .. should I run on the left or right side of the road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Soulsun wrote: »
    When road running .. should I run on the left or right side of the road.

    I always run against the traffic, so on the right hand side of the road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭vargoo


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    I always run against the traffic, so on the right hand side of the road.

    This when car coming^, otherwise middle. So no dip. Country roads.



    Don't run on the road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Slow_Runner


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Soulsun wrote: »
    When road running .. should I run on the left or right side of the road.

    I always run against the traffic, so on the right hand side of the road.
    When coming up to a blind right hand bend always cross over to the left side of the road


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Said I'd throw in a few questions here instead of creating a thread, hope that's OK.

    Recommendations for a decent pair of runners I can get online or instore? Booked in for my first half and full marathon in Dublin this September and October so looking to buy soon to have them broken in :) Some nice Asics Gel ones on sale on sports direct for 40 - 50 euro half price Atm.

    Best recommended 16 week marathon plan? Currently do in 3 short runs a week (5-10km) with 1 day football (60mins, another 4-5km of running according to the watch) and 2 or 3 days in the gym. Looking to build up the milage, most I've ever run in one run is 14km.

    I'm sure I'll have lots of other questions when they pop into my head!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    rizzee wrote: »
    Said I'd throw in a few questions here instead of creating a thread, hope that's OK.

    Recommendations for a decent pair of runners I can get online or instore? Booked in for my first half and full marathon in Dublin this September and October so looking to buy soon to have them broken in :) Some nice Asics Gel ones on sale on sports direct for 40 - 50 euro half price Atm.

    You're better off trying a few pairs yourself or getting a gait analysis done. Everyone is different. I do all my runs in racing flats for example, that could leave someone else injured.
    rizzee wrote: »
    Best recommended 16 week marathon plan? Currently do in 3 short runs a week (5-10km) with 1 day football (60mins, another 4-5km of running according to the watch) and 2 or 3 days in the gym. Looking to build up the milage, most I've ever run in one run is 14km.

    I'm sure I'll have lots of other questions when they pop into my head!

    The marathon novices thread on here might be a good one for you to follow a plan. No such thing as a best plan...the best plan is the one that fits into your lifestyle and works for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    You're better off trying a few pairs yourself or getting a gait analysis done. Everyone is different. I do all my runs in racing flats for example, that could leave someone else injured.



    The marathon novices thread on here might be a good one for you to follow a plan. No such thing as a best plan...the best plan is the one that fits into your lifestyle and works for you.

    Thank you! I actually posted in there a few minutes after I put up that post. I'm going to follow the beginners plan there. (starting 24/06 but I will get the ball rolling and count weekly milage from next week)

    Is the gait analysis the one Elverys have in store? Would be interested in trying that out instead of getting a pair that irritated me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    rizzee wrote: »
    Thank you! I actually posted in there a few minutes after I put up that post. I'm going to follow the beginners plan there. (starting 24/06 but I will get the ball rolling and count weekly milage from next week)

    Is the gait analysis the one Elverys have in store? Would be interested in trying that out instead of getting a pair that irritated me.

    I'd be more inclined to try some of the specialist running shops for gait analysis. Runhub is my go to shop but lots of good reports about Amphibian King as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    rizzee wrote: »
    Said I'd throw in a few questions here instead of creating a thread, hope that's OK.

    Recommendations for a decent pair of runners I can get online or instore? Booked in for my first half and full marathon in Dublin this September and October so looking to buy soon to have them broken in :) Some nice Asics Gel ones on sale on sports direct for 40 - 50 euro half price Atm.

    Best recommended 16 week marathon plan? Currently do in 3 short runs a week (5-10km) with 1 day football (60mins, another 4-5km of running according to the watch) and 2 or 3 days in the gym. Looking to build up the milage, most I've ever run in one run is 14km.

    I'm sure I'll have lots of other questions when they pop into my head!
    If Dublin based, I'd recommend going to a running specialist shop for the shoes. Although I think the drop and comfort is more important than anything else.
    On the plan its hard to say but you can go wrong following the boards beginners plan. You can search back previous years to see what's ahead of you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Thanks all :) Meath based but work in Citywest - base2race seems to be close by so will have to take a look there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    I'm currently training for my first full, and while I know I can physically complete it in my target time, I feel terrible anxiety around my psychological ability to finish. Is this normal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Fenster wrote: »
    I'm currently training for my first full, and while I know I can physically complete it in my target time, I feel terrible anxiety around my psychological ability to finish. Is this normal?

    Very much so! The first marathon anxiety extended to having nightmares about showing up at the wrong time for me.

    This cheap ebook is decent on the general topic:
    https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/how-to-survive-the-marathon-freak-out/

    So is Dubgal's post before DCM 2015 on the Novices thread: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=97497103&postcount=7293


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Anyone know of a heart rate monitor which is compatible with a garmin forerunner 25?


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭Butterbeans


    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Anyone know of a heart rate monitor which is compatible with a garmin forerunner 25?

    No expert on it but I think Garmin have a generic HRM strap that works across all their watches. I say that because I got one from a running buddy who didn't want his, I had a Garmin Forerunner 15 at the time and he had a different model but the HRM worked for both watches


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    Singer wrote: »
    Very much so! The first marathon anxiety extended to having nightmares about showing up at the wrong time for me.

    This cheap ebook is decent on the general topic:
    https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/how-to-survive-the-marathon-freak-out/

    So is Dubgal's post before DCM 2015 on the Novices thread: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showpost.php?p=97497103&postcount=7293

    Thanks, I appreciate that! I'm reading through the book now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭Seesee


    Where to now? I have just completed the HH HM plan - well almost completed it. I did the second last week with the LSR of 16k. I plan to do a similar week this week - maybe another 16k lsr on Sunday although I would also like to do parkrun and give it a good lash on Saturday so maybe that would be too much? (I'm older and have to be careful not to over train!)

    The HM I have signed up for is not until August RnR and I also hope to do the KBC series in the run up to DCM. However, I am stopping short of DCM as have never even done a Half and only did my first 10K in December so don't think Id be able this year. (yes I am lurking on the mentored novices thread and dying with envy!!!)

    So question is where to from here - do I continue with about 20 miles a week where possible and maybe extend the LSR each time? I would like to have run HM distance a few times before the actual event - don't like these plans where they leave you 5/6K short and assume adrenaline will get you over the line in the meantime.

    I have a few shorter distances coming up over the summer too and I am mixing in intervals and hill sessions every week though I have let the old S&C slip a bit recently but hope to rectify that over the summer months. Big thing is to stay injury free and be able to run all summer long.

    TIA


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Seesee wrote: »
    Where to now? I have just completed the HH HM plan - well almost completed it. I did the second last week with the LSR of 16k. I plan to do a similar week this week - maybe another 16k lsr on Sunday although I would also like to do parkrun and give it a good lash on Saturday so maybe that would be too much? (I'm older and have to be careful not to over train!)

    The HM I have signed up for is not until August RnR and I also hope to do the KBC series in the run up to DCM. However, I am stopping short of DCM as have never even done a Half and only did my first 10K in December so don't think Id be able this year. (yes I am lurking on the mentored novices thread and dying with envy!!!)

    So question is where to from here - do I continue with about 20 miles a week where possible and maybe extend the LSR each time? I would like to have run HM distance a few times before the actual event - don't like these plans where they leave you 5/6K short and assume adrenaline will get you over the line in the meantime.

    I have a few shorter distances coming up over the summer too and I am mixing in intervals and hill sessions every week though I have let the old S&C slip a bit recently but hope to rectify that over the summer months. Big thing is to stay injury free and be able to run all summer long.

    TIA

    Heya,

    So you have completed, or nearly, a HM plan but the HM isn't until August? Would you not look at the race thread and see if there is one coming up that you can do once the plan has finished?

    You are right not to tackle the marathon this year. Get a good base and a few races and target next year.

    I did the HH HM plan for my first half and like that it stopped at 10 miles. Most marathon plans have 2*20 as you don't need to complete the full marathon distance in training, it will give you no benefits. They say a 20 mile run or 3 hours on your feet I think so trust in the plan as it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭Seesee


    I could do the thoroughbred half maybe. I don’t want to travel too far and would prefer to do a few shorter races like 10ks over the summer then do the two halfs in August and September while keeping the long runs up most weekends maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Hi all

    Posted this in the DCM Mentored Novices Thread too but am now thinking there might be more traffic here. If I can't have the same post in two places at once then could the mods delete this one please. And thanks.

    An ultrasound tomorrow will hopefully confirm for sure, but it looks like I have a hernia. Swelling began on Thurs. Went to A&E last night. I'm not looking for medical advice, I will get that tomorrow from my doc, but just in a bit of a mood about it at the moment. My training has been very good and very consistent.

    Just wondering if anyone knows how much of an issue this is likely to be? I've private health insurance so would be hoping to have what needs to be done ASAP. I know I haven't yet been diagnosed and that everyone is different, but am expecting to be waiting 6weeks until I can return to training. Say 7 when you factor in getting the diagnosis and the procedure if needed.

    Boards plan starts in 5weeks if I've done my maths right.

    Am I screwed or am I lucky that it has happened now rather than later?


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