Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread III

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 21-08-2013 1:57pm

Rightwing wrote: »

Yeah, graduated from UL in the summer.

Well he certainly hasn't graduated this summer considering the graduations aren't until next week

Rightwing · 21-08-2013 2:00pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Jaysus he's got his fingers in lots of pies, fair play to him!

Absolutely, it was a masters he did. TG4 work,,,and a successful pub business. He was a director of some marketing company too, not sure if he's still involved with that.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/munster-legend-jerry-flannery-lands-arsenal-coaching-role-29387530.html

He went on to study for a masters in sports performance at the University of Limerick, which he completed in December and, although he has a number of business interests – including a pub in his native Limerick – and is a rugby analyst on TG4, he now has an opportunity to put his academic training into practice with the Gunners.

jamiedav2011 · 21-08-2013 2:01pm

Rightwing wrote: »

Absolutely, it was a masters he did. TG4 work,,,and a successful pub business. He was a director of some marketing company too, not sure if he's still involved with that.

Was involved in Joe.ie to some degree too.

Good model for a guy like EOM.

jm08 · 21-08-2013 2:25pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

He probably does, but equally he could easily know eff all about S&C for anyone who isn't a hooker of the same body type as him. Being told what to do doesn't make you an expert on what everyone else should be doing.

If he had S&C in mind as an after career he more than likely would have shown an interest in what the rest of the squad were up to.

Newtown90 · 21-08-2013 2:40pm

phog wrote: »

I'd guess if they don't arrive they can be collected/reprinted at the booth outside Thomnd Park, ring tomorrow to check. My MRSC match tickets arrived yesterday.

On the game itself I saw on twitter that Conway is due to start his first Munster game on Saturday.

Rang ticketmaster, after 30 mins of arguing they finally acknowledged I had bought tickets! They apologised and said they should have been sent, and will be available to collect on Saturday before the game!

Cheers guys!

Fireball07 · 21-08-2013 2:47pm

I think that interview with Conway is interesting, in that he says he wasn't contracted to Leinster??

Wasn't the commonly held opinion that he was mid-contract? That he had signed a 2-year one the season before? So... who reported that and why was it wrong?

edit- I see it was been discussed in the Leinster thread

Buer · 21-08-2013 2:56pm

It was reported throughout the media that he had signed a 2 year deal last year. It's a very odd situation. One can only assume that, if that's the case, the second year was an option that he rejected. But that doesn't tally with the claim that he was offered a new contract at Leinster.

Here's the release from Leinster at the time: http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/1741.php

Mahatma Geansai · 21-08-2013 3:10pm

Buer wrote: »

It was reported throughout the media that he had signed a 2 year deal last year. It's a very odd situation. One can only assume that, if that's the case, the second year was an option that he rejected. But that doesn't tally with the claim that he was offered a new contract at Leinster.

Here's the release from Leinster at the time: http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/1741.php

Could have quite easily just have been a mistake in the press release. You'd have to wonder if Leinster only chose to offer him the one year or if would only accept a one year deal.

Fireball07 · 21-08-2013 4:09pm

So we have Gloucester coming up at the weekend, then London Irish, before we kick off against Edinburgh.

Do we know whether the internationals will be available for the Edinburgh game? I'm guessing that the Lions will miss out but the likes of POM, Kilcoyne, etc?

athtrasna · 21-08-2013 7:50pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

So we have Gloucester coming up at the weekend, then London Irish, before we kick off against Edinburgh.

Do we know whether the internationals will be available for the Edinburgh game? I'm guessing that the Lions will miss out but the likes of POM, Kilcoyne, etc?

Last season they rested all the internationals for September? Wouldn't count on having POM, Kilcoyne, Ryan or the Lions - and Earls, LOD and Jones are injured.

Fireball07 · 21-08-2013 8:12pm

athtrasna wrote: »

Last season they rested all the internationals for September? Wouldn't count on having POM, Kilcoyne, Ryan or the Lions - and Earls, LOD and Jones are injured.

But O'Donnell, Sherry, Foley, Keatley, Nagle and Ryan were all involved in Ireland squads of some description this summer. Would limit us a lot.

athtrasna · 21-08-2013 8:19pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

But O'Donnell, Sherry, Foley, Keatley, Nagle and Ryan were all involved in Ireland squads of some description this summer. Would limit us a lot.

Scary thought! http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12164.php#.UhUSYNLVBtU says Keatley and Nagle available anyway - they were on the Emerging Ireland tour. Looks like the guys on the senior tour and Lions are out for this weekend anyway. Question will be how soon they come back

Fireball07 · 21-08-2013 8:38pm

So, as strong a possible a team for Edinburgh might be:

15. Denis Hurley
14. Andrew Conway
13. Casey Laulala
12. James Downey
11. Ronan O'Mahony
10. Ian Keatley
9. Cathal Sheridan
8. James Coughlan
7. CJ Stander
6. Dave O'Callaghan
5. Ian Nagle
4. Donncha O'Callaghan
3. BJ Botha
2. Damien Varley
1. James Cronin

16. Niall Scannell
17. John Ryan
18. Stephen Archer
19. Billy Holland
20. Paddy Butler/Sean Dougall/Niall Ronan
21. Duncan Williams
22. JJ Hanrahan
23. Johne Murphy

We do have decent options in the back row even without POM and TOD. You'd expect Stander to start, as well as Coughlan.... but there wouldn't be much between DOC2.0/Butler/Dougall/Ronan for the remaining starting space and sub slot.

Loosehead looks very light, I'd say Cronin might get the start with Ryan on the bench, could be wrong there. Will be good to see Scannell involved in the squad, although Casey is another option as sub hooker.

And wing is the other place we're light without Earls, Zebo, LOD and Howlett's retirement. I'd like to see ROM given the nod ahead of Murphy tbh.

It's a decent team, all things considered.

phog · 21-08-2013 9:37pm

Glenviewjf wrote: »

Rang ticketmaster, after 30 mins of arguing they finally acknowledged I had bought tickets! They apologised and said they should have been sent, and will be available to collect on Saturday before the game!

Cheers guys!

It might be no harm to bring whatever confirmation ref no you have and the credit card you used to book the tickets as proof. I had an issue with Ticketmaster before and was messed about a bit by them, as things the guy at their ticket desk at Thomond Park was very helpful but I'm still waiting for the supervisor that was in duty in their call centre to ring me back - must be about three years ago, long wait.

No, you're a... · 22-08-2013 8:46am

Penney set to take on scrum coach role

Article from Irish Indo ()

Todd Toddington III · 22-08-2013 10:32am

No, you're a... wrote: »

Article from Irish Indo ()

Try again son... although my phone hates me so could be me

Howard Juneau · 22-08-2013 10:37am

Todd Toddington III wrote: »

Try again son... although my phone hates me so could be me

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3825_8882240,00.html

Cookiemunster · 22-08-2013 10:47am

I see from the end of the indo article that Penny says that the internationals will be staggered back into action from the first weekend of the Rabo onwards.

eire_lad · 22-08-2013 4:17pm

Hurley, Conway, lualarry, dineen, munrphy, keats, duncan,,,,cronin, sherry , ryan, o callaghan , holland, stander,ronan, coughlin

.ak · 22-08-2013 4:19pm

So.... Who's on Conway watch?

thomond2006 · 22-08-2013 4:22pm

I'll be there, I can post updates if ye like.

.ak · 22-08-2013 4:24pm

Nice one.

Fairly decent team, pro12 standard anyway.

thomond2006 · 22-08-2013 4:27pm

Hold on, where the **** is John Hayes?!

.ak · 22-08-2013 4:27pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Hold on, where the **** is John Hayes?!

Skills and Kicking Coach.

eire_lad · 22-08-2013 4:31pm

Wonder what the attendance will be. Think max limerick FC got was close to 2k over the summer... wouldn't be a great sign for soccer support in the city if a meaning less friendly rugby game drew a bigger crowd,,which i can see happening.. If there was any any bit average crowd there it could open up the oppurtunity for a 7's comp to be staged over the summers...would draw a crowd i reckon...prob a bit off topic

Fireball07 · 22-08-2013 5:16pm

eire_lad wrote: »

Hurley, Conway, lualarry, dineen, munrphy, keats, duncan,,,,cronin, sherry , ryan, o callaghan , holland, stander,ronan, coughlin

Strong enough team... no JJ though.

phog · 22-08-2013 5:43pm

Saw on twitter that there's a panel of 19 named, a few club players included, not sure if that's with B&I cup in mind or what. Looking forward to live rugby again, great that's it a Sat evening game too, no rushing from work.

Cookiemunster · 22-08-2013 6:36pm

eire_lad wrote: »

Wonder what the attendance will be. Think max limerick FC got was close to 2k over the summer... wouldn't be a great sign for soccer support in the city if a meaning less friendly rugby game drew a bigger crowd,,which i can see happening.. If there was any any bit average crowd there it could open up the oppurtunity for a 7's comp to be staged over the summers...would draw a crowd i reckon...prob a bit off topic

Only the East stand/terrace is being opened so they obviously aren't expecting many to attend. Pity really as it seems to be the strongest pre season team I've seen in quite a while.

Mahatma Geansai · 22-08-2013 6:43pm

Is nobody else going to do this..?

Duncan starting at 9! :mad:

Howard Juneau · 22-08-2013 6:46pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Is nobody else going to do this..?

Duncan starting at 9! :mad:

Shhh, don't tell athtrasna!

phog · 22-08-2013 6:47pm

A preview of the game - http://www.eamorugby.com/2013/08/dreams-of-future.html?m=1

athtrasna · 22-08-2013 7:07pm

... Tries to bite tongue.... Fails... Is Sheridan injured?

jm08 · 22-08-2013 7:29pm

athtrasna wrote: »

... Tries to bite tongue.... Fails... Is Sheridan injured?

I'd imagine Sheridan is being kept with JJ, his Bohs halfback partner and Duncan is covering for Murray with Keatley

kub · 22-08-2013 10:13pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Is nobody else going to do this..?

Duncan starting at 9! :mad:

Any bit of luck so he may not be playing the game down in Musgrave next week:D

thomond2006 · 22-08-2013 10:19pm

It's a shame we didn't sign someone like Heaney, who was originally out of contract before signing a long term deal with Ulster.

Murray is our most important player in terms of staying fit. While POC is vital too Munster have a lot better (and proven) cover at lock than scrumhalf. Hopefully Brian Haugh or another young scrum-half gets some Rabo gametime at some stage during the season.

Glass Prison 1214 · 22-08-2013 10:22pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's a shame we didn't sign someone like Heaney, who was originally out of contract before signing a long term deal with Ulster.

Murray is our most important player in terms of staying fit. While POC is vital too Munster have a lot better (and proven) cover at lock than scrumhalf.

Willis has been released by Sale, I'm surprised that Munster haven't inquired.

thomond2006 · 22-08-2013 10:27pm

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

Willis has been released by Sale, I'm surprised that Munster haven't inquired.

Gerry Hurley's signing made a lot of sense. He seemed to be involved in recent pre-seasons so he wouldn't need much time to bed-in.

Glass Prison 1214 · 22-08-2013 10:32pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gerry Hurley's signing made a lot of sense. He seemed to be involved in recent pre-seasons so he wouldn't need much time to bed-in.

Remains to be seen if he is up to playing the pro game however, I reckon Willis would have been the safer bet although I really know little abut Hurley.

former legend · 23-08-2013 7:58am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gerry Hurley's signing made a lot of sense. He seemed to be involved in recent pre-seasons so he wouldn't need much time to bed-in.

But is he any good? I don't know anything about him

accidentprone1 · 23-08-2013 8:55am

For the sake of it, I think it's worth giving Williams one or two chances at the start of the season. He played terribly in general last year, but feck it - he's on contract for another, so we might as well get some sort of use out of him.

I do recall at some stage last year that one poster commended Williams over Stringer - said that at least Williams offered some sort of threat with ball in hand.

Not saying he's going to be in anyway good this year, let's be clear. Just feel we should give the fella a chance. A very quick one.

Newtown90 · 23-08-2013 9:34am

Cannot wait for tomorrow evening now, it's been too long!

Looking forward to seeing how stander and Conway play!...Also Keatley now he knows the pressure of rog isn't there!

Will throw a few pics up on twitter for ye

Mahatma Geansai · 23-08-2013 12:39pm

I love Paulie!

jamiedav2011 · 23-08-2013 12:47pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

I love Paulie!

That is brilliant, Munster seem to have gotten their arse in gear marketing wise in recent times, wonder is that by proxy of who isn't there, along with who is?

jm08 · 23-08-2013 12:56pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

That is brilliant, Munster seem to have gotten their arse in gear marketing wise in recent times, wonder is that by proxy of who isn't there, along with who is?

Its very good. Thats the benefit of having Addidas with their big marketing budgets.

Same 3 players that were used last season when they were shop assistants.

jm08 · 23-08-2013 2:05pm

former legend wrote: »

But is he any good? I don't know anything about him

Seems to be highly rated in the AIL. Captained the Ireland Club XVs as well, so very experienced. Could be another James Coughlan in the making as there was a long queue of SHs in Munster when he was in the Academy.

.ak · 23-08-2013 2:07pm

former legend wrote: »

But is he any good? I don't know anything about him

IIRC he was in the senior setup before and was given feck all time even when the SHs ahead were picking up knocks. Somebody didn't rate him.

Buer · 23-08-2013 2:08pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

I love Paulie!

POC is perceived by most as such an intense and serious person compared to how DOC is perceived. POC always comes across as the biggest messer and best craic out of any Irish player whenever he's on camera behind the scenes.

phog · 23-08-2013 4:32pm

For those of you on twitter.

Peter O Mahony ‏@peterom6 54m I'm going to be answering questions tonight from 6 for an hour through the Bank of Ireland twitter page @talktoBOI . Chat then!

phog · 23-08-2013 7:24pm

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

I love Paulie!

While it's funny I preferred last season's one of the lads "working" in the Munster Rugby Store.

athtrasna · 23-08-2013 7:57pm

accidentprone1 wrote: »

For the sake of it, I think it's worth giving Williams one or two chances at the start of the season. He played terribly in general last year, but feck it - he's on contract for another, so we might as well get some sort of use out of him.

I do recall at some stage last year that one poster commended Williams over Stringer - said that at least Williams offered some sort of threat with ball in hand.

Not saying he's going to be in anyway good this year, let's be clear. Just feel we should give the fella a chance. A very quick one.

He's getting this chance whether we like it or not. (And most of you know where I stand on the issue!) but here's hoping that if he doesn't make a case for it then he's not given too many more of them in the first 23.

Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread III

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